The Ratings Thread (Part 63)

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  • ronantronant Posts: 4,785
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    yorkie100 wrote: »
    The whole thing is absolutely barmy - who came up with this and why?

    Why? To save money, because the BBC English Regions have to slash their budget by 20% due to the license fee freeze.

    The 1.30 bulletin is expensive because content has to be produced specifically for it. The 10.25 bulletin is cheap because it is almost entirely repeated content from 6.30.

    So they extend the 10.30 bulletin, make a big thing of that, quietly reduce the 1.30 bulletin and they save some money.
  • Andy23Andy23 Posts: 15,926
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    This is one of those occasions where I don't agree with how they spend the licence fee. The budget for English Regions should be ring fenced. The savings from BBC3 could have gone there instead of the wooly 'more money for BBC1 drama' pledge which is hardly crying out for more money, on the face of it that particular genre seems to be doing quite well!
  • PizzatheactionPizzatheaction Posts: 20,157
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    What are the 1.30pm regional bulletins like in the English regions? The Wales ones are not great: endless stories about ambulance response times, school league tables, then a live piece about the above, from the foyer of the Welsh Government building, a quick mention of rugby, then a weather forecast.
  • yorkie100yorkie100 Posts: 9,372
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    What are the 1.30pm regional bulletins like in the English regions? The Wales ones are not great: endless stories about ambulance response times, school league tables, then a live piece about the above, from the foyer of the Welsh Government building, a quick mention of rugby, then a weather forecast.

    I have never thought that the regional news programs are that good but boy do they get ratings.
  • AnthonyCAnthonyC Posts: 2,234
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    yorkie100 wrote: »
    I have never thought that the regional news programs are that good but boy do they get ratings.

    Yep, now just waiting for this Winter's snow-inflated rating! On one occasion a few years back, I'm sure combined they surpassed 8m on a Sunday or Monday evening...
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    NeilVW wrote: »
    You'll get into trouble with cylon for suggesting Alex Jones is a light-entertainment presenter. And to be fair, she did a better job at it than Gary.

    There isn't much to do really, it is not that challenging even for her. Gary was more interested in his team getting a home game and was clearly like a fan focused on the results. Alex didn't care and was only reading out numbers which meant nothing to her. She probably thought she was doing the lottery
  • NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 8,635
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    Dancc wrote: »
    Week 3 Channel Shares
    Channel: This Year (Last Year) C[HIGHLIGHT]H[/HIGHLIGHT]A[HIGHLIGHT]N[/HIGHLIGHT]G[HIGHLIGHT]E[/HIGHLIGHT]
    BBC One: 23.5% (22.4%) +5%
    BBC Two: 6.1% (7.1%) [HIGHLIGHT]-14%[/HIGHLIGHT]
    ITV: 14.2% (15.5%) [HIGHLIGHT]-8%[/HIGHLIGHT]
    Channel 4: 5.6% (6.1%) [HIGHLIGHT]-8%[/HIGHLIGHT]
    Channel 5: 5.3% (5.0%) +6%

    Improvements for BBC One and Channel 5, with the other three losing share, consistent with the year-to-date trends. BBC Two the biggest faller in week 3, minus The Great Sport Relief Bake Off stripped nightly at 8pm during that same week last year.

    Meanwhile a particularly strong set of ratings for Celebrity Big Brother propelled Channel 5 to its best weekly share since August of last year, and narrowed the gap to nearest rival Channel 4 to just 0.3 share points.

    Year-to-date Channel Shares
    Channel: This Year (Last Year) C[HIGHLIGHT]H[/HIGHLIGHT]A[HIGHLIGHT]N[/HIGHLIGHT]G[HIGHLIGHT]E[/HIGHLIGHT]
    BBC One: 22.4% (22.2%) +1%
    BBC Two: 6.4% (7.0%) [HIGHLIGHT]-9%[/HIGHLIGHT]
    ITV: 13.7% (15.1%) [HIGHLIGHT]-9%[/HIGHLIGHT]
    Channel 4: 5.8% (6.2%) [HIGHLIGHT]-6%[/HIGHLIGHT]
    Channel 5: 4.9% (4.8%) +3%

    Channel 5 the most improved channel so far in 2015. BBC One also on the upgrade.

    ITV narrowly the worst performer on this measure, just behind BBC Two.

    www.barb.co.uk

    Thanks for doing this. It broadly reflects Broadcast magazine's chart of overnight channel shares. Here's how it breaks down by daypart:

    Year-on-year changes: week 1 / week 2 / week 3 / [highlight]year-to-date[/highlight]

    Primetime (18:00-22:30)
    BBC One: –9% / +4% / +7% / [highlight]+0%[/highlight]
    BBC Two: –11% / +3% / –21% / [highlight]–10%[/highlight]
    ITV: –15% / –9% / –12% / [highlight]–12%[/highlight]
    Channel 4: +15% / –13% / –7% / [highlight]–2%[/highlight]
    Channel 5: –9% / +5% / +6% / [highlight]+1%[/highlight]
    Others: +15% / +3% / +8% / [highlight]+9%[/highlight]

    Daytime (09:30-18:00)
    BBC One: +8% / +2% / +4% / [highlight]+5%[/highlight]
    BBC Two: –20% / –3% / +1% / [highlight]–9%[/highlight]
    ITV: –12% / –1% / –1% / [highlight]–4%[/highlight]
    Channel 4: –11% / –18% / –16% / [highlight]–15%[/highlight]
    Channel 5: +14% / –5% / –4% / [highlight]+2%[/highlight]
    Others: +3% / +2% / +1% / [highlight]+2%[/highlight]

    Week one ran from Mon 29 Dec - Sun 4 Jan.
    Week two ran from Mon 5 Jan - Sun 11 Jan.
    Week three ran from Mon 12 Jan - Sun 18 Jan.
  • dulliredullire Posts: 20,198
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    Soap Officials w/c 12th January 2015

    Coronation Street:

    Mon: 8.73m [+1m] / 8.54m [+830k]
    Wed: 8.6m [+1.14m]
    Fri: 8.77m [+1.19m] / 8.26m [+800k]

    Avg.: 8.58m [+992k]

    EastEnders:

    Mon: 8.31m [+860k]
    Tue: 8.43m [+710k]
    Thu: 8.31m [+780k]
    Fri: 7.6m [+470k]

    Avg.: 8.16m [+705k]

    Emmerdale:

    Mon: 6.97m [+430k]
    Tue: 7.11m [+380k]
    Wed: ?
    Thu: 7.01m [+660k] / 6.68m [+500k]
    Fri: ?

    Avg.: 6.94m [+493k]

    TOP 10 OFFICIALS W/C 12TH JANUARY:
    1. CALL THE MIDWIFE (SUN 2000): 10.15m
    2. THE VOICE UK (SAT 1900): 9.47m
    [B]3. CORONATION STREET (FRI 1931): 8.77m[/B]
    4. BROADCHURCH (MON 2100): 8.64m
    5. SILENT WITNESS (TUE 2100): 8.56m
    6. DEATH IN PARADISE (THU 2100): 8.51m
    [B]7. EASTENDERS (TUE 1929): 8.43m[/B]
    8. STILL OPEN ALL HOURS (SUN 1931): 7.62m
    9. LAST TANGO IN HALIFAX (SUN 2101): 7.56m
    [B]10. EMMERDALE (TUE 1900): 7.11m[/B]
    

    Figures inc.HD and exc.+1

    Source: Barb
  • RobbieSykes123RobbieSykes123 Posts: 14,022
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    cylon6 wrote: »
    There's a screening of The Casual Vacancy tonight.

    "@caterinos2000: The BBC One adaptation of @jk_rowling THE CASUAL VACANCY confirmed to transmit on SUNDAY 15TH FEBRUARY 9.00PM"

    seems sensible given that Selfridge looks like it's dead in the water already!
    AnthonyC wrote: »
    Yep, now just waiting for this Winter's snow-inflated rating! On one occasion a few years back, I'm sure combined they surpassed 8m on a Sunday or Monday evening...

    11m if memory serves on the infamous Snow Monday a few years back when the south east stayed at home all day.

    It stayed above 9m for several days

    The recent Christmas (2010?) when it snowed all Christmas, the teatime bbc1 bulletins were getting c9m all week
  • NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 8,635
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    seems sensible given that Selfridge looks like it's dead in the water already!

    And there are 10 weeks of Selfridge. Lordy lordy.
  • FuddFudd Posts: 166,971
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  • henry_hopehenry_hope Posts: 761
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    What a night for BBC drama;9 million for Call the Midwife and 6.3million for Last Tango in Halifax. And these are shows continuing into their 3rd and 4th series.
  • NeilVWNeilVW Posts: 8,635
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    ronant wrote: »
    Why? To save money, because the BBC English Regions have to slash their budget by 20% due to the license fee freeze.

    The 1.30 bulletin is expensive because content has to be produced specifically for it. The 10.25 bulletin is cheap because it is almost entirely repeated content from 6.30.

    So they extend the 10.30 bulletin, make a big thing of that, quietly reduce the 1.30 bulletin and they save some money.

    So do you believe this "temporary measure" - like the introduction of income tax a few centuries ago - will in fact be permanent?
  • Guest82722Guest82722 Posts: 10,019
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    NeilVW wrote: »
    So do you believe this "temporary measure" - like the introduction of income tax a few centuries ago - will in fact be permanent?

    They may well reduce the 10.30pm local news after the election- but will they reinstate the lunchtime bulletins to their full length- or will that be quietly forgotten?
  • Steve WilliamsSteve Williams Posts: 11,873
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    I thought his tweet about ITV's "transfer window activity" re Pougatch on Friday was interesting and "knowing". Like someone itching to say more. If, as seems likely, ITV snatch the PL highlights then I can't see him staying at the BBC to front occasional FA Cup ties.

    I didn't see anything strange about that tweet at all, it was him expressing his surprise that ITV have made the change and offering his best wishes to Mark Pougatch. He did, however, tweet that he had never said he was going to leave the Beeb if they lost the Premier League, and I don't know why you'd try and read something into other tweets and then ignore the one where he specifically mentioned it. Why would he have specifically said he wouldn't be leaving if he was?
    Dancc wrote: »
    The biggest shock in the fourth round last year was probably Fulham being beaten at home by Sheffield United, but given they were in the relegation zone at the time that was nowhere near as big a surprise as Chelsea's 4-2 defeat at the weekend, amongst others. And most if not all of the other results went the way you'd expect.

    And as well that Saturday Liverpool, the biggest draw still in the Cup at that point as Man U were already out, had been live on ITV earlier in the day.
    jake lyle wrote: »
    After thinking about it I do suspect the dropping of Chiles (just a few months into his new contract) and Townsend may have been to add credibility to their Premier league highlights bid. Their biggest problem is the amount of adverts they'll need to run.

    How is dropping Chiles and Townsend "adding credibility" to a bid? I know the narrative is that the nation hates Chiles and Townsend but all football coverage has always been slagged off and ITV don't keep people around for five years or, in Townsend's case, over a decade, if they're actively driving away the public. And what does the Premier League care anyway? When they gave the live rights to BT in the last contract they didn't even have a channel.
    tobi wrote: »
    Anything to get it high ratings. To be honest, it should be Gabby Logan doing the draw with him. It seems tokenistic to ask a female light entertainment presenter with no interest or clue about football

    It's picking balls out of a bag! A few years back we had a brilliant draw in the FA Cup and it was done by Kate Garraway. And of course they want to get high ratings, they haven't bought the rights to the FA Cup out of the goodness of their hearts, they want to get big ratings out of it and use it to promote other BBC brands, like BT and Sky do. And Alex Jones was wonderful at it, as she always is at everything.
    smile371 wrote: »
    The annoying thing is that they did! Count Arthur Strong is a pre-watershed sitcom, and would have sat perfectly suited to take over SOAH slot when it finishes. I never will understand why they've just chucked it out at 10:35 . . .

    Well, it's doing alright now but before the series began it had got under a million pre-watershed on BBC2, and in a slot where Miranda had got high ratings, so it would have been a massive risk.
  • RobbieSykes123RobbieSykes123 Posts: 14,022
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    Steve - it's noteworthy re Strong that they always showed trailers immediately before SOAH. I think they recognised the potential crossover and even if it had got 3m or less in the SOAH slot it could have been quickly moved to a less prime slot. I'm convinced it would be getting double its current audience at least. With ITV incapable of competing, BBC1 can afford to take some risks. And BBC1 is desperate to find a new comedy success.
  • lewiep93lewiep93 Posts: 5,880
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    UK TV Ratings ‏@TVRatingsUK now
    Tight between the two big 9pm dramas last night:
    Broadchurch 5.58m/22.7%
    Silent Witness 5.53m/22.5%
  • ScoreScore Posts: 17,285
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    lewiep93 wrote: »
    UK TV Ratings ‏@TVRatingsUK now
    Tight between the two big 9pm dramas last night:
    Broadchurch 5.58m/22.7%
    Silent Witness 5.53m/22.5%

    Broadchurch back in front then but only by a very narrow margin. Looks like there were slightly fewer viewers around than last week as Broadchurch was down 80k no last week (a minimal amount in fairness) but its share was identical. Silent Witness down 340k week on week.

    Broadchurch seems to have stabilised at least and the reaction to last night's episode was better so ITV will probably be somewhat relieved this morning. There's only one more week of Silent Witness left too.
  • cylon6cylon6 Posts: 25,486
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    Silent Witness gets a lead in from Panorama similar to what Mr Selfridge got. Mr Selfridge should be getting closer to 5m too.
  • ScoreScore Posts: 17,285
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    @mrpbrassey: Pointless 4.20, The Chase 3.27, UC 2.97, Antiques RT 2.77, CBB 2.56, OC 2.40, Tipping Point 1.61, Eggheads 1.33, Rinder 1.13, Link 0.89

    Looks like Mel & Sue are still doing dismally looking at that gap between Pointless and The Chase. Tipping Point trounced The Link at 3pm.
  • cylon6cylon6 Posts: 25,486
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    @overnightstv: 28M UK viewers have seen at least 3min of Peter Capaldi as the Twelfth #DoctorWho on BBC1. Reach data."
  • newkid30newkid30 Posts: 7,797
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    lewiep93 wrote: »
    UK TV Ratings ‏@TVRatingsUK now
    Tight between the two big 9pm dramas last night:
    Broadchurch 5.58m/22.7%
    Silent Witness 5.53m/22.5%

    I thought SW would be lower, very poor episode last night, slightly surprised that BC did not go up more. Last weeks BC official will be interesting. Are they out tomorrow?
  • gavin shipmangavin shipman Posts: 9,720
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    Are those CBB ratings including plus one?
  • ScoreScore Posts: 17,285
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    newkid30 wrote: »
    I thought SW would be lower, very poor episode last night, slightly surprised that BC did not go up more. Last weeks BC official will be interesting. Are they out tomorrow?

    People wouldn't have known it was a poor episode (if it was) until they tuned in though. If it was then I'd expect to see that reflected in tonight's or next week's numbers rather than last night's.
  • ScoreScore Posts: 17,285
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    Are those CBB ratings including plus one?

    I believe so yes.
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