Pay growth greater than inflation for the first time in five years

NeverEnoughNeverEnough Posts: 3,052
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More good news on the economy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30019259

According to the article inflation is expected to be below 1% whilst pay increases are expected to top 3% in the next year.

Light at the end of the tunnel at last :)

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  • TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    It is good news.

    Of course, when the global bubble pops we will be back to square one.
  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    Yes of course, everything is great.

    inflation is low because many companies are not passing on their costs to the public.

    People are not spending, so prices fall.
  • Urban BassmanUrban Bassman Posts: 2,230
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    Tassium wrote: »
    Yes of course, everything is great.

    inflation is low because many companies are not passing on their costs to the public.

    People are not spending, so prices fall.

    Then people wait to see if prices fall lower so they don't spend, so prices fall again. And then you have deflation!!

    Which is nearly as bad as excessive inflation as companies don't get the income to invest and Tax receipts from VAT are not generated.

    And it all starts again!!!
  • MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    That's the greater thing about averages - most people aren't average.

    Bankers and corporate CEOs who earn more can get 10 per cent pay rises - the majority get no rise - and end get a rise on average on 1.3 per cent.

    People's biggest expense is buying a house - they have gone up 10 per cent in a year. Yet inflation as officially measured is only 1.2 per cent.

    Can anyone in the real world take these artificial inflation figures - picked to minimise the rate - seriously.
  • thorrthorr Posts: 2,153
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    MARTYM8 wrote: »
    That's the greater thing about averages - most people aren't average.

    Bankers and corporate CEOs who earn more can get 10 per cent pay rises - the majority get no rise - and end get a rise on average on 1.3 per cent.
    People's biggest expense is buying a house - they have gone up 10 per cent in a year. Yet inflation as officially measured is only 1.2 per cent.

    Can anyone in the real world take these artificial inflation figures - picked to minimise the rate - seriously.

    But no one goes out a buys a house every day.

    But agreed, these are just statistics - and you cannot divine how individuals are affected based upon an average - it is merely one of the measures of how the economy is doing. Which is why I also do not support your sweeping generalisation (BIB) since it has no basis in fact - suggesting that all CEOs are getting 10% and the majority are getting zero.
  • SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Well done Dave !!!!

    Good Job George !!!!
  • RichievillaRichievilla Posts: 6,179
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    So a whopping 0.1% higher than one gauge of inflation and 1% below another.
    David Cameron’s hopes of election boost are dashed as 80% say recovery not working

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/david-camerons-hopes-of-feelgood-election-boost-are-dashed-as-80-per-cent-say-recovery-is-not-helping-9858273.html
  • TankyTanky Posts: 3,647
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    Tassium wrote: »
    Yes of course, everything is great.

    inflation is low because many companies are not passing on their costs to the public.

    People are not spending, so prices fall.

    There are 3 reasons why people don't spend

    1)They don't have he money to spend.
    2)People are keeping hold of their money and saving instead.
    3)They are spending money on essentials only.

    So even if prices fall rock bottom, people currently just don't want to spend their money. So what will the retail companies do next?

    Also internet prices are far cheaper than retailers can match.

    SULLA, are you trying to be sarcastic? Cause it's hard to see if you're joking with text alone sometimes.

    Thorr, yeah not everyone buys a house every day but almost most average people can't even afford one. Also on the point about bosses, most of their bonuses are worth a couple times of an average earner and how they seem to be able to get bonuses annually whatever happens to the economy or how well a company does.
  • LandisLandis Posts: 14,855
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    I also hope that SULLA is joking.

    Let us consider the Millions who have "found employment" under this Tory led government. Let's imagine that the few hours work supplied by your Zero Hours Contract attracts 3% wage inflation in the near future. The remainder of your income, the vast majority of your income, will increase by 1% if you are lucky.

    What is the average % increase on your total income?


    Er....The answer seems to be a tiny fraction more than 1%......unless of course you have opted to use creative maths or you are someone who tends to confuse 50% with 100%.......
  • haphashhaphash Posts: 21,448
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    Sounds like government propaganda to me. Wages for new jobs advertised are still incredibly low.

    In real terms the vast majority of the population have less disposable income now than before the recession started.
  • SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Landis wrote: »
    I also hope that SULLA is joking.

    Let us consider the Millions who have "found employment" under this Tory led government. Let's imagine that the few hours work supplied by your Zero Hours Contract attracts 3% wage inflation in the near future. The remainder of your income, the vast majority of your income, will increase by 1% if you are lucky.

    What is the average % increase on your total income?


    Er....The answer seems to be a tiny fraction more than 1%......unless of course you have opted to use creative maths or you are someone who tends to confuse 50% with 100%.......

    You people need to be grateful that we didn't have another four and half years of Labour government. We would now be bankrupt.
  • TankyTanky Posts: 3,647
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    SULLA wrote: »
    You people need to be grateful that we didn't have another four and half years of Labour government. We would now be bankrupt.

    That's a big assumption and we'll never know how a Labour government would have really done. However it's probable that we'll find out, as Labour is likely to be in government, even though it'll be a close GE.

    With all that said, you should note this though-
    The Government, having already borrowed £58bn between April and September, is almost certain to miss its £96bn annual target by a mile. It’s now all but certain the UK will post a sixth successive year of triple-digit, billion-pound deficits, five of them under the Tories. Osborne has borrowed more in his half-decade as Chancellor than his predecessor Gordon Brown did during a decade at the Treasury
    When the Tories took office, total government debt was £811bn. On last week’s figures, it’s now £1,451bn – an 80pc rise in just five years, with a lot more to come.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11187727/Its-time-to-come-clean-about-our-national-debt.html
  • SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    Tanky wrote: »
    That's a big assumption and we'll never know how a Labour government would have really done. However it's probable that we'll find out, as Labour is likely to be in government, even though it'll be a close GE.

    With all that said, you should note this though-





    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11187727/Its-time-to-come-clean-about-our-national-debt.html

    You do realise that we have had to make massive payments on the enormous debt inherited from Labour.

    We could have made it off quicker if we had slashed pensions, benefits and the NHS.

    Is this what you would have preferred ?
  • TankyTanky Posts: 3,647
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    Sulla, we are straying off topic, so it would make sense to start a new thread on the subject. I'm going to name the new thread "Has the deficit been reduced since the Tories came into government". I will copy over your last post as a quote onto that thread too.
  • jjwalesjjwales Posts: 48,566
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    More good news on the economy

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30019259

    According to the article inflation is expected to be below 1% whilst pay increases are expected to top 3% in the next year.

    Light at the end of the tunnel at last :)

    But isn't that inflationary? :)
  • paulschapmanpaulschapman Posts: 35,536
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    jjwales wrote: »
    But isn't that inflationary? :)

    Not if accompanied by improvements in productivity where the reduced unit cost can be used to offset the increased cost of wages.
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