Tories will win no more than 2 seats in Scotland £50 bet
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I see Andrew Neil just bet Shapps the Tory Chaian that Tories will receive no more than 2 seats in Scotland.
Andrew Neil bet is safe they will be very lucky to have any at all. As for Shapps what a plonker , I will also happily take that bet as well from the Tory buffoon.
Andrew Neil bet is safe they will be very lucky to have any at all. As for Shapps what a plonker , I will also happily take that bet as well from the Tory buffoon.
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It would be great if you went. Could you take the North East of England with you, another real economic powerhouse of the modern world, led politically by real visionaries.
West Aberdeenshire and Kincardine
Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk
Both currently held by the Lib Dems (the latter being Michael Moore's no less) with the Tories being the only close challengers in 2010. They also hold the equivalent Holyrood seat for the Roxburgh and its next to their present Westminster seat.
The gains would be mostly due to a wider collapse in the Lib Dem (predicted to be down to 6%) that would see the SNP pick 5 of the LD seats, Tories 2 and Labour 1 leaving the LDs with just 3 of their current 11.
I doubt many people would have supported that in 1940 when the South coast was under threat of invasion.
Thank you for naming these seats CPU. I seem to recall the LibDems won a by-election in the then Kincardine & Deeside in 1991 but lost it back to the Tories in the 1992 General Election. I think the LibDem to Labour seat would be East Dunbartonshire (currently held by Jo Swinson) with the wider Inverness seat (currently Danny Alexander) falling to the SNP. I think the 3 safe seats would be Orkney & Shetland and the 2 northermost mainland seats, including Charles Kennedy's seat.
You're right about East Dunbartonshire. I didn't notice that Labour would gain Edinburgh West but lose Ochil and South Perthshire to the SNP hence the overall gain of 1 for Labour (but 2 from the LDs).
and if your not?
In the last 65 years the Conservatives would have had a Westminster majority without Scottish MP's only 3 times. 1959, 1983 and 1987. At every other election the Tories have won the size of their majority was equal to or less than the number of seats they won in Scotland. In fact had Cameron done as well as Maggie in 1979 in Scotland he's have a majority of 6 and no Lib Dems in his Government.
In fact without Scottish MP's they wouldn't have even been the largest party in in a number of their victories.
Why do you want to get rid of Scotland?
At the 1992 election Scotland was the only part of the UK where the swing was in favour of the Conservatives (3%) and the only place where they made net gains, increasing from 9 seats to 11.
Ming Campbell must have become a very popular constituency MP for NE Fife to be such a safe LibDem seat. Mind you, he is standing down in 2015. I think this would be Labour's first ever win of Edinburgh West as it went from Tory to LibDem in 1997.
Indeed, in 1979 and 1992 respectively the Tories achieved 22 and 11 seats in Scotland and national majorites of 43 and 21. So halving their Scottish representation halved their national majority - and without any Scottish seats they would have narrowly missed out on outright victory both times.
Because they are having a referendum on independence. He thinks that means we hate him , personally .
What did my friend do to you that made you hate him so much?
Why did you all blank him, boycott his hotel and phone him at 4am to tell him to "F&*? off back to England".
Yeah, you Scots are a lovely bunch.
Yeah, I believe that.
I don't care what you think.
And I don't care for your made up stories
I don't make up stories.
Many of you fellow NAT's are racists, plain and simple
So everyone in Scotland boycotted your friends hotel, everyone phoned him and swore at him. I do not think so.
Hundreds of thousands of people of English birth live and work in Scotland quite happily.
Oh and thanks for calling me a racist when it is you that makes anti Scottish comments.
Quote me on an anti English comment I have made or withdraw your allegation.
I don't need to apologise for there being a nasty streak of anti-English feeling amongst the Scottish Nationlists.
Its a Scottish problem, not mine.
Ok link to them then.
And I am waiting for your apology for calling me a racist.
instead you just indulge in more anti Scottish rhetoric, so who is the racist here. It looks like it is you
Having now lived in Scotland for almost 4 years and spent the last 15 before then visiting 2-3 times a month, I've never noticed an anti-English feeling any stronger than the anti-northerner feeling you get in London. A few jokes here and there, but 2 English blokes watching an England - Scotland football game in a pub in Aberdeen (drinking red wine as well)caused no comment at all.
It seems to be your problem with all things that aren't English or right wing.
In Aberdeen they were awfully anti english, spouuting off junk about the English oppressing and raping them.
Many of the yes supporters are seriously deluded. https://www.facebook.com/SaorAlbaGuBrath