This reminds me of a hotel many of my Trans friends stop at....the Campanile in Milton Keynes. It's right opposite the local LGBT club. I have nothing but respect for those staff that work in there. They must've seen everything! They're absolutely fantastic and very friendly to anyone that wants a room. It's so popular it gets booked out months in advance for the monthly Trans nights at the club opposite. The hotel chain owners are rumored to send staff to work at this hotel for a few weeks as it gives them an eye opener into providing good customer service to all types of patrons.
Now don't get me wrong...I'm sure not everything that goes on up there is innocent (ie what goes on in hotel rooms) but from my point of view they make a killing due to their openess. i'm sure the Trans girls test the patience sometimes of the managment. One of the hotel staff apparently joked one day to a group of Trans girls 'Can you stop getting so much f'ing makeup in the bed covers'....makes me chuckle at least :-)
I believe they make unaware/civilian guests (read as normal/hetro/reserved) guests that it is quite an open hotel and guests must be aware there maybe the odd 'different' looking person wandering around. Can't seem to do them any harm as I never seem to get a room there when I want!
I have to make do with meeting everyone in the downstairs bar prior to going out clubbing etc. I've stopped there before on a normal weekend at the opposite club, had the odd random looks off disapproving guests but mainly I tend to get them chatting me up if I'm stood outside having a cheeky ciggie. Ah good times :cool:
EDIT...just want to make it crystal clear my description of 'unaware' guests being normal/hetro/reserved etc is solely just to paint the scene. ie a 60 yr old reserved couple vs a group of loud 20yr something Tgirls...of course being hetro doesn't mean you're reserved or normal. No predujice here!!!
The bibles were not in the room. They appeared in the public areas along with the literature.
We had fun watching "Mr Gay UK" on their tv and leaving the condom on top of the waste paper basket in protest.
As for gay holidays they are lovely. Lots of nudity and sex. Mind you,I avoided the jacuzzi as most days it looked like rice pudding in the water and the filter wasn't working well.
I can see you're doing your bit to help fight the tired stereotypes that gay and lesbian men and women face every single day. Well done, m'love!
The bibles were not in the room. They appeared in the public areas along with the literature.
We had fun watching "Mr Gay UK" on their tv and leaving the condom on top of the waste paper basket in protest.
As for gay holidays they are lovely. Lots of nudity and sex. Mind you,I avoided the jacuzzi as most days it looked like rice pudding in the water and the filter wasn't working well.
This reminds me of a hotel many of my Trans friends stop at....the Campanile in Milton Keynes. It's right opposite the local LGBT club. I have nothing but respect for those staff that work in there. They've must seen everything! They're absolutely fantastic and very friendly to anyone that wants a room. It's so popular it gets booked out months in advance for the monthly Trans nights at the club opposite. The hotel chain owners are rumored to send staff to work at this hotel for a few weeks as it gives them an eye opener into providing good customer service to all types of patrons.
Now don't get me wrong...I'm sure not everything that goes on up there is innocent (ie what goes on in hotel rooms) but from my point of view they make a killing due to their openess. i'm sure the Trans girls test the patience sometimes of the managment. One of the hotel staff apparently joked one day to a group of Trans girls 'Can you stop getting so much f'ing makeup in the bed covers'....makes me chuckle at least :-)
I believe they make unaware/civilian guests (read as normal/hetro/reserved) guests that it is quite an open hotel and guests must be aware there maybe the odd 'different' looking person wandering around. Can seem to do them any harm as I never seem to get a room there when I want!
That sounds ghastly and I don't see why hetero=reserved any more than gay=lude.
I just like snowboarding and snorkling on holiday.
It's something that hotels used to advertise themselves as, so I suppose some do it out of habit.
Gone are the days when we used to turn up at a hotel and have an embarrassed receptionist say "Oh, there must be some mistake..." then have the penny drop
Gone are the days when we used to turn up at a hotel and have an embarrassed receptionist say "Oh, there must be some mistake..." then have the penny drop
That sounds ghastly and I don't see why hetero=reserved any more than gay=lude.
I just like snowboarding and snorkling on holiday.
It's just a description for the context of the story...think of the quiet reserved 60 yr old couple type in comparison to a group of 20 something Tgirls.....just a way of describing them.
There's no predujice or arguement to be picked out of me here
It's just a description for the context of the story...think of the quiet reserved 60 yr old couple type in comparison to a group of 20 something Tgirls.....just a way of describing them.
There's no predujice or arguement to be picked out of me here
oh right cool.
I do have prejudice myself, I assume gay things are going to be a certain way, like Stud-u-like says in fact. Also I think people should integrate and not exclude themselves as it breeds contempt and misunderstanding.
oh right cool.
I do have prejudice myself, I assume gay things are going to be a certain way, like Stud-u-like says in fact. Also I think people should integrate and not exclude themselves as it breeds contempt and misunderstanding.
I agree...everyone has to be open...I'm not gay but NO problem with gay people in the slightest. It'd be a hypocritical of me considering my postion and the majority of my friends are Bisexual etc....
I shall add an edit to to original post to make it even clearer :cool:
oh right cool.
I do have prejudice myself, I assume gay things are going to be a certain way, like Stud-u-like says in fact. Also I think people should integrate and not exclude themselves as it breeds contempt and misunderstanding.
You are spot on with that. I loath and detest the idea of gay holidays specifically. Im unsettled by the idea of actively segregating yourself away from society and foreign cultures just because you are wrapped up in your own gay bubble. Its a problem that spreads itself right across the gay community, sadly.
Why go away to a foreign country only to surround yourself with other gays in other gay bars? It baffles me. Its very unhealthy.
I agree...everyone has to be open...I'm not gay but NO problem with gay people in the slightest. It'd be a hypocritical of me considering my postion and the majority of my friends are Bisexual etc....
I shall add an edit to to original post to make it even clearer :cool:
well no I don't think you have to be open. I think you should respect everyone's privacy, that's why 'gay friendly' is possibly an attempt at that, but it sort of fails as it suggests it IS an issue in an inadvertent way also it alienates people in some areas. I think in general it IS a good thing, like others have said, I wish it wasn't necessary ever, anywhere.
well no I don't think you have to be open. I think you should respect everyone's privacy, that's why 'gay friendly' is possibly an attempt at that, but it sort of fails as it suggests it IS an issue in an inadvertent way also it alienates people in some areas. I think in general it IS a good thing, like others have said, I wish it wasn't necessary ever, anywhere.
I get what you're saying....in the interim until society doesn't care anymore about sexuality etc...what would you say is the best way for places like hotels to indicate they're open to LGBT customers without it seeming like segregation?
I get what you're saying....in the interim until society doesn't care anymore about sexuality etc...what would you say is the best way for places like hotels to indicate they're open to LGBT customers without it seeming like segregation?
No idea... it's a sensitive subject isn't it?
maybe if there was an advisory board set up that checked that hotels were open to everyone not just 'gay friendly' and they could have that "open to everyone" sticker that didn't announce gayness in such an obvious fashion. That's all I can think of.
It's not a terrible thing anyway, they have "family friendly" and that... at least it's not "no blacks, no irish, no dogs" so we are progressing as a society.
I'd like a sticker that said "no gays" that people could stick on the door if they have been treated poorly
No idea... it's a sensitive subject isn't it?
maybe if there was an advisory board set up that checked that hotels were open to everyone not just 'gay friendly' and they could have that "open to everyone" sticker that didn't announce gayness in such an obvious fashion. That's all I can think of.
It's not a terrible thing anyway, they have "family friendly" and that... at least it's not "no blacks, no irish, no dogs" so we are progressing as a society.
I'd like a sticker that said "no gays" that people could stick on the door if they have been treated poorly
Maybe just a simple 'Welcome to All' would be suffice, no need to pick out anyone group....
it'd soon shame the non friendly places into rethinking their views.....
By putting gay friendly it is advertising to gays that they will not have to feel uncomfortable just being who they are. It also helps make sure homophobes are not going to book in.
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Now don't get me wrong...I'm sure not everything that goes on up there is innocent (ie what goes on in hotel rooms) but from my point of view they make a killing due to their openess. i'm sure the Trans girls test the patience sometimes of the managment. One of the hotel staff apparently joked one day to a group of Trans girls 'Can you stop getting so much f'ing makeup in the bed covers'....makes me chuckle at least :-)
I believe they make unaware/civilian guests (read as normal/hetro/reserved) guests that it is quite an open hotel and guests must be aware there maybe the odd 'different' looking person wandering around. Can't seem to do them any harm as I never seem to get a room there when I want!
I have to make do with meeting everyone in the downstairs bar prior to going out clubbing etc. I've stopped there before on a normal weekend at the opposite club, had the odd random looks off disapproving guests but mainly I tend to get them chatting me up if I'm stood outside having a cheeky ciggie. Ah good times :cool:
EDIT...just want to make it crystal clear my description of 'unaware' guests being normal/hetro/reserved etc is solely just to paint the scene. ie a 60 yr old reserved couple vs a group of loud 20yr something Tgirls...of course being hetro doesn't mean you're reserved or normal. No predujice here!!!
I can see you're doing your bit to help fight the tired stereotypes that gay and lesbian men and women face every single day. Well done, m'love!
That sounds ghastly and I don't see why hetero=reserved any more than gay=lude.
I just like snowboarding and snorkling on holiday.
Gone are the days when we used to turn up at a hotel and have an embarrassed receptionist say "Oh, there must be some mistake..." then have the penny drop
Post #64 - no they aren't
It's just a description for the context of the story...think of the quiet reserved 60 yr old couple type in comparison to a group of 20 something Tgirls.....just a way of describing them.
There's no predujice or arguement to be picked out of me here
I take it you pointed out that it isn't "nice" (or indeed professional) to pass judgement on the personal lives of paying customers?
oh right cool.
I do have prejudice myself, I assume gay things are going to be a certain way, like Stud-u-like says in fact. Also I think people should integrate and not exclude themselves as it breeds contempt and misunderstanding.
I agree...everyone has to be open...I'm not gay but NO problem with gay people in the slightest. It'd be a hypocritical of me considering my postion and the majority of my friends are Bisexual etc....
I shall add an edit to to original post to make it even clearer :cool:
You are spot on with that. I loath and detest the idea of gay holidays specifically. Im unsettled by the idea of actively segregating yourself away from society and foreign cultures just because you are wrapped up in your own gay bubble. Its a problem that spreads itself right across the gay community, sadly.
Why go away to a foreign country only to surround yourself with other gays in other gay bars? It baffles me. Its very unhealthy.
Love Bernard manning style jokes, Especially in these threads, It just wouldn't be the same without em
well no I don't think you have to be open. I think you should respect everyone's privacy, that's why 'gay friendly' is possibly an attempt at that, but it sort of fails as it suggests it IS an issue in an inadvertent way
I get what you're saying....in the interim until society doesn't care anymore about sexuality etc...what would you say is the best way for places like hotels to indicate they're open to LGBT customers without it seeming like segregation?
But them maybe it's more that we tend to stay in more expensive hotels these days, where the staff are trained about these things.
No idea... it's a sensitive subject isn't it?
maybe if there was an advisory board set up that checked that hotels were open to everyone not just 'gay friendly' and they could have that "open to everyone" sticker that didn't announce gayness in such an obvious fashion. That's all I can think of.
It's not a terrible thing anyway, they have "family friendly" and that... at least it's not "no blacks, no irish, no dogs" so we are progressing as a society.
I'd like a sticker that said "no gays" that people could stick on the door if they have been treated poorly
Maybe just a simple 'Welcome to All' would be suffice, no need to pick out anyone group....
it'd soon shame the non friendly places into rethinking their views.....
Yes, that'd be it. Coz posh people don't judge
This.
I never said you were wrong. Now I think you are, but I didn't before
Well you have my sympathy, as would anyone suffering from that condition. Sadly I'm not sure there is much I can do to help you.
Get well soon.
Regards.