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Is there anyone here who doesn't think the title race is over?

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    walterwhitewalterwhite Posts: 56,944
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    Fergie86 wrote: »
    The title race is not over yet as United still have tough away games at Arsenal, West Ham, Stoke, West Brom and Sunderland whilst playing Chelsea and Man.City at Old Trafford. Although United won't drop points in all of those games if the pressure gets to them you never know what could happen. It is however unlikely that United will bottle it again as i can't see City winning all there league games either but after last season it ain't over until it is Mathematically impossible.

    Stoke have lost 6 of their last 8 and West Brom and Sunderland have been hopeless lately as have West Ham. I don't see them as tough games
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    Syntax ErrorSyntax Error Posts: 27,803
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    It think there are two sides to this question.

    In actuality, the answer is straightforward & black & white: the title race is not over as there are still 30/33 points to play for. However, the purpose of the question to the ascertain how people think the rest of the season will pan out.

    It would take a collapse of monumental proportions for United not to win the title now & City will have to play twice as well as they did last season just to have a hope in hell's chance & for that reason, it is more than likely that United will win the title.

    City are not quite as powerful as they were last year, whereas United are definitely stronger with the additions of Kagawa & Van Persie, plus the likes of Carrick & Cleverley proving to be almost indispensable.
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    Aztec23Aztec23 Posts: 1,313
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    Well a narrow, but rather a comfortable win for City tonight. In spite of the uproar from the Villa fans, I didn't feel as though City would lose their lead.

    It doesn't make any difference to the league table as such in comparison to last week, only that the games are getting fewer.

    A boost for Tevez, because he's going to be needed in games where they need to grind out a win.

    I think It's going to be vital that Kompany returns against Everton at Goodison and Newcastle at home - both of which I feel must be won before the meeting of United at Old Trafford.

    United of course have two big cup ties in Real and Chelsea before their meeting with Reading at Old Trafford on a Monday Night as well as a trip to Sunderland.

    Any slip up out of those two games in say dropping 2 points, and should City come into the clash having won their games and beat United will see the deficit reduced to 7 points with 6 left to play.

    There's got to be at least another twist in the tale, but I'm interested in seeing how the two cup games are going to pan out.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 36
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    Its never over until its over, as they say, but I just don't see City catching United. Man United have been incredibly consistent this season, I expected this kind of response from them this season after last.
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    Mr TeacakeMr Teacake Posts: 6,593
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    The title race is over. If I were a bookmaker I would've payed out on utd weeks ago.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,575
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    PhilH36 wrote: »
    Until it's mathematically impossible for any other club to overtake United it's not over.

    End of debate.

    Except this to me is more a discussion of realustically over as against mathematically over.

    We ( St Mirren ) may lie 3rd bottom of the SPL, but we still could mathematically win the title. 30 points behind Celtic with 10 matches left ;)

    I hate to come over all pessimistic, but I reckon our title challenge is over, as would any sane person.

    Now that is an extreme position, and at a less clear level than that one makes a judgement.

    I'd say this season's Premier League is done and dusted and going nowhere but Old Trafford. But I do understand most Man United fans reluctance to say so.
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    batdude_uk1batdude_uk1 Posts: 78,722
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    Aztec23 wrote: »
    W

    There's got to be at least another twist in the tale, but I'm interested in seeing how the two cup games are going to pan out.

    Why does there have to be another twist? :confused:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,575
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    Why does there have to be another twist? :confused:

    Indeed, I was thinking the same. There doesn't.

    My guess would be that this season will trundle on towards the fairly inevitable conclusion of a United title. United will drop a few points as will City, but I predict no significant twist.
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    Flagg613Flagg613 Posts: 1,150
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    Aztec23 wrote: »
    Well a narrow, but rather a comfortable win for City tonight. In spite of the uproar from the Villa fans, I didn't feel as though City would lose their lead.

    It doesn't make any difference to the league table as such in comparison to last week, only that the games are getting fewer.

    A boost for Tevez, because he's going to be needed in games where they need to grind out a win.

    I think It's going to be vital that Kompany returns against Everton at Goodison and Newcastle at home - both of which I feel must be won before the meeting of United at Old Trafford.

    United of course have two big cup ties in Real and Chelsea before their meeting with Reading at Old Trafford on a Monday Night as well as a trip to Sunderland.

    Any slip up out of those two games in say dropping 2 points, and should City come into the clash having won their games and beat United will see the deficit reduced to 7 points with 6 left to play.

    There's got to be at least another twist in the tale, but I'm interested in seeing how the two cup games are going to pan out.

    You mean with 7 left to play, United playing Reading, Sunderland and Man City would leave 7 games remaining.
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    DSWNSMDSWNSM Posts: 1,801
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    It's over, United will NOT drop 12 points in 10 games. Even if they did i can't see City winning every game until the end of the season, the title is United's.
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    Astra 1AAstra 1A Posts: 1,704
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    City need to win all 10 games left, this means United need to lose 3 out of their other 9. The GD would close up naturally.

    Its possible, but highly improbable. Probably over this weekend when City fail to take 3pts at Goodison.
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    PeePee Posts: 8,154
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    there is more chance of City finishing 3rd than 1st IMO. this one is very much over.
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    Steveaustin316Steveaustin316 Posts: 15,779
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    Pee wrote: »
    there is more chance of City finishing 3rd than 1st IMO. this one is very much over.

    What's the difference in prize money between finishing 2nd and 3rd?
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    batdude_uk1batdude_uk1 Posts: 78,722
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    Pee wrote: »
    there is more chance of City finishing 3rd than 1st IMO. this one is very much over.

    Yup fully agree with that, plus I would say that there is more chance of City finishing fifth than first.
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    Aztec23Aztec23 Posts: 1,313
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    Why does there have to be another twist? :confused:

    I say this based on the difficult fixtures they have ahead of their meeting against City.

    It's very slender in terms of hopes for City against last year because of their own tricky 2 games coming up in Everton and Newcastle, but in football, you just never know and it can only take a couple of United draws to give City more belief.
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    SULLASULLA Posts: 149,789
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    I am pleased to report that when United come to the Hawthorns on the last day of the season they will have nothing the play for.:)
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    iamsofirediamsofired Posts: 13,054
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    No chance UTD slip up that many times and City cant be relied upon to win all there games - at the other end of the table I was surprised to see QPR not that far off the teams around them, I had assumed they were toast.
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    IH80IH80 Posts: 794
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    Its entirely possible for United to draw the next couple of games which would mean an eight point lead with nine games left. Pressure on, City get a lift and suddenly its all to play for. You're a moron if you think otherwise.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,575
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    IH80 wrote: »
    Its entirely possible for United to draw the next couple of games which would mean an eight point lead with nine games left. Pressure on, City get a lift and suddenly its all to play for. You're a moron if you think otherwise.

    The many folk that feel the league is virtually done and dusted simply hold a different opinion to you, and are not by definition "morons".

    I don't think I am anyway ;)

    By the way, it would be 8 points with 8 games left. 10 - 2 = 8 :)
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    IH80IH80 Posts: 794
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    indiana44 wrote: »
    The many folk that feel the league is virtually done and dusted simply hold a different opinion to you, and are not by definition "morons".

    I don't think I am anyway ;)

    By the way, it would be 8 points with 8 games left. 10 - 2 = 8 :)

    Heh, I dont think you're a moron, I just think its moronic to think it's won already.

    My mistake, I was thinking 11 games left. Either way, two draws and four points dropped means it's game on.
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    Aztec23Aztec23 Posts: 1,313
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    Referring to post 29 - I made the point of another twist and based on the course of events this week that may not be PL games that were played, I think we could see a twist in the tale.
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    barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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    I think it's probably over. I can't see anybody catching Cardiff.
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    anapanap Posts: 6,925
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    Fulham in 10th are closer to the bottom of the league than Man. City in 2nd are to the top!
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    coolercooler Posts: 13,024
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    IH80 wrote: »
    Its entirely possible for United to draw the next couple of games which would mean an eight point lead with nine games left. Pressure on, City get a lift and suddenly its all to play for. You're a moron if you think otherwise.

    Except that the lead being reduced to 8 pts wouldn't cause pressure because 8 pts is a very healthy lead especially as Utd will have home advantage against City in the next derby.

    Reading and Sunderland are on bad form at the moment so its very unrealistic that Utd will drop 4 pts in those matches plus combined with City winning at Goodison.
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    FlukieFlukie Posts: 40,578
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    cooler wrote: »
    Except that the lead being reduced to 8 pts wouldn't cause pressure because 8 pts is a very healthy lead especially as Utd will have home advantage against City in the next derby.

    Reading and Sunderland are on bad form at the moment so its very unrealistic that Utd will drop 4 pts in those matches plus combined with City winning at Goodison.

    Last season United were 8 points clear with 6 games to go.

    Any United fan with any sense this season will only think the title is won when it is mathematically impossible to be caught.
    Simple as that.
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