ASLEF have said if they want Tube Drivers to work Boxing Day they should be paid 3 days pay + Day off in lieu. London Underground said they can't expect to pay this.
Why do people want to travel on Boxing Day. Shops should be shut.
Why do people want to travel on Boxing Day. Shops should be shut.
I couldn't care less about shops either but Boxing Day is one of the biggest sporting days of the year. People have family and friends to visit. We are always being encouraged to use public transport rather than driving when weather conditions may be bad and there is a lot of drinking going on.
Go to Spain and you'll find the buses and trains running normally on Christmas Day.
Can't London cope without the tube even on boxing day? Most of the rest of the country doesn't seem to have normal railway services on boxing day so why should London always get the red carpet treatment in both tubes and bus serivces all the time for?
Maybe one day the Tube drivers will do their job (which they get fairly handsome reward for already compared to most of their fare paying customers) instead of demanding extra gold plating for little reason other than because they can shut down the network otherwise.
I have never heard a big company who gives out this amount of threating demands over the years. It's getting rather boring now. They need to get themselves in talks and sort it all out without this pathetic demands before Bank Holidays or special events. I wonder if the Aslef bosses work on Boxing Day? No, cause they earn lots.
Says on the radio they only get 45K a year and are only asking for triple time in the holidays, to avert the strike. Sounds like job for Bob Crow. It a nice cushy number having a monopoly on underground transport. They always get what they want.
I can't wait till they get a fully automated tube network - it works in other countries, I don't see any reason why it can't work in London, London is not some mythical land where only human beings can control a train which is on a set of rails meaning it can only go in one direction
once a computer replaces the tube drivers, we can stop having to put up with the tube drivers and their soft reasons for striking!
Can't London cope without the tube even on boxing day? Most of the rest of the country doesn't seem to have normal railway services on boxing day so why should London always get the red carpet treatment in both tubes and bus serivces all the time for?
Many people are still working on boxing day, and I suspect quite a few stores will be starting their sales.
Says on the radio they only get 45K a year and are only asking for triple time in the holidays, to avert the strike. Sounds like job for Bob Crow. It a nice cushy number having a monopoly on underground transport. They always get what they want.
Gold star for gratuitous mention of Bob Crow on this thread.
I can't wait till they get a fully automated tube network - it works in other countries, I don't see any reason why it can't work in London, London is not some mythical land where only human beings can control a train which is on a set of rails meaning it can only go in one direction
once a computer replaces the tube drivers, we can stop having to put up with the tube drivers and their soft reasons for striking!
IIRC one of the Underground lines is almost automatic (in terms of speed regulation), and then there is of course the DLR which is pretty much driverless (usually under computer control, although the "train captain" can drive the train if necessary).
ASLEF have said if they want Tube Drivers to work Boxing Day they should be paid 3 days pay + Day off in lieu. London Underground said they can't expect to pay this.
Why do people want to travel on Boxing Day. Shops should be shut.
agree with you on that but don't forget Boxing Day, is a big day for sport which people need transport to get to.
ASLEF have said if they want Tube Drivers to work Boxing Day they should be paid 3 days pay + Day off in lieu. London Underground said they can't expect to pay this.
Why do people want to travel on Boxing Day. Shops should be shut.
Er... People should be able to do what they want on this day and what about people who have to get to work on this day?:rolleyes:
Many people are still working on boxing day, and I suspect quite a few stores will be starting their sales.
Chance would be a fine thing for those of us who live outside London and other cities but we don't get that chance generally, everything is shut on Boxing Day and New years day so if we have to put up with it, maybe London and the other cities should as well or at least from time to time.
Says on the radio they only get 45K a year and are only asking for triple time in the holidays, to avert the strike. Sounds like job for Bob Crow. It a nice cushy number having a monopoly on underground transport. They always get what they want.
And bankers get a lot more! Ever hear of them going on strike? No, as they don't need to. They just tell the Government they want more cash and get it, like the £75 billion given to them recently by the Bank of England. Yes, 75 BILLION, and no conditions, like not funding bonuses out of it.
I don't know if tube train drivers are justified or not, but what's obvious is that it's small change compared to the taxpayers cash bankers pocket. So, if you want to be angry, be angry with the bankers, the biggest parasites in the country.
how about "whatever it says in the contract that your union agreed to"?
Its nonsense.
I'm not a tube driver but my union has an agreement of exactly that.
The boxing day arrangement as I understand was apparently for a skeleton service manned by volunteers. Drivers would work 1 in 4 boxing days. Now LUL wants a full Saturday service with no renegotiation. But triple and a day off is excessive.
It should be noted there will be very little if any national rail services on that day.
To be fair this is the first time we have ever had a boxing day and the tube network is still very new so its understandable that issue like this might not have ever been covered before in union agreed T&Cs so the unions arent being greedy but are just asking a very valid question......;)
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Fireman will be working.
I couldn't care less about shops either but Boxing Day is one of the biggest sporting days of the year. People have family and friends to visit. We are always being encouraged to use public transport rather than driving when weather conditions may be bad and there is a lot of drinking going on.
Go to Spain and you'll find the buses and trains running normally on Christmas Day.
once a computer replaces the tube drivers, we can stop having to put up with the tube drivers and their soft reasons for striking!
Many people are still working on boxing day, and I suspect quite a few stores will be starting their sales.
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Wow! The cuts are deeper than we thought!
Gold star for gratuitous mention of Bob Crow on this thread.
Well done! :rolleyes:
IIRC one of the Underground lines is almost automatic (in terms of speed regulation), and then there is of course the DLR which is pretty much driverless (usually under computer control, although the "train captain" can drive the train if necessary).
agree with you on that but don't forget Boxing Day, is a big day for sport which people need transport to get to.
Chance would be a fine thing for those of us who live outside London and other cities but we don't get that chance generally, everything is shut on Boxing Day and New years day so if we have to put up with it, maybe London and the other cities should as well or at least from time to time.
And bankers get a lot more! Ever hear of them going on strike? No, as they don't need to. They just tell the Government they want more cash and get it, like the £75 billion given to them recently by the Bank of England. Yes, 75 BILLION, and no conditions, like not funding bonuses out of it.
I don't know if tube train drivers are justified or not, but what's obvious is that it's small change compared to the taxpayers cash bankers pocket. So, if you want to be angry, be angry with the bankers, the biggest parasites in the country.
A bottle of bubbly might be more appropriate.
Morgassi Superiore 2009 Piedmont is apparently one of "Bubbly Bob's" favourite tipples.
It's only £39 a bottle.
how about "whatever it says in the contract that your union agreed to"?
Its nonsense.
I'm not a tube driver but my union has an agreement of exactly that.
The boxing day arrangement as I understand was apparently for a skeleton service manned by volunteers. Drivers would work 1 in 4 boxing days. Now LUL wants a full Saturday service with no renegotiation. But triple and a day off is excessive.
It should be noted there will be very little if any national rail services on that day.