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Tube Drivers Could Strike Boxing Day

occyoccy Posts: 65,148
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ASLEF have said if they want Tube Drivers to work Boxing Day they should be paid 3 days pay + Day off in lieu. London Underground said they can't expect to pay this.

Why do people want to travel on Boxing Day. Shops should be shut.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 13,672
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    Hospitals will still be open
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Windy999 wrote: »
    Hospitals will still be open

    Fireman will be working.
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    LostFoolLostFool Posts: 90,659
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    occy wrote: »
    Why do people want to travel on Boxing Day. Shops should be shut.

    I couldn't care less about shops either but Boxing Day is one of the biggest sporting days of the year. People have family and friends to visit. We are always being encouraged to use public transport rather than driving when weather conditions may be bad and there is a lot of drinking going on.

    Go to Spain and you'll find the buses and trains running normally on Christmas Day.
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    GeegGeeg Posts: 23,338
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    Tube drivers in Scotland will be working
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    occyoccy Posts: 65,148
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    They still don't deserve that amount of money.
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    StykerStyker Posts: 49,863
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    Can't London cope without the tube even on boxing day? Most of the rest of the country doesn't seem to have normal railway services on boxing day so why should London always get the red carpet treatment in both tubes and bus serivces all the time for?
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    Maybe one day the Tube drivers will do their job (which they get fairly handsome reward for already compared to most of their fare paying customers) instead of demanding extra gold plating for little reason other than because they can shut down the network otherwise.
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    occyoccy Posts: 65,148
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    I have never heard a big company who gives out this amount of threating demands over the years. It's getting rather boring now. They need to get themselves in talks and sort it all out without this pathetic demands before Bank Holidays or special events. I wonder if the Aslef bosses work on Boxing Day? No, cause they earn lots.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    Says on the radio they only get 45K a year and are only asking for triple time in the holidays, to avert the strike. Sounds like job for Bob Crow. It a nice cushy number having a monopoly on underground transport. They always get what they want.
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    DarthGoreDarthGore Posts: 1,664
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    I can't wait till they get a fully automated tube network - it works in other countries, I don't see any reason why it can't work in London, London is not some mythical land where only human beings can control a train which is on a set of rails meaning it can only go in one direction

    once a computer replaces the tube drivers, we can stop having to put up with the tube drivers and their soft reasons for striking!
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    psionicpsionic Posts: 20,188
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    Styker wrote: »
    Can't London cope without the tube even on boxing day? Most of the rest of the country doesn't seem to have normal railway services on boxing day so why should London always get the red carpet treatment in both tubes and bus serivces all the time for?

    Many people are still working on boxing day, and I suspect quite a few stores will be starting their sales.
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    GreatGodPanGreatGodPan Posts: 53,186
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    Annsyre wrote: »
    Fireman will be working.

    :eek:

    Wow! The cuts are deeper than we thought! ;)
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    GreatGodPanGreatGodPan Posts: 53,186
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    Says on the radio they only get 45K a year and are only asking for triple time in the holidays, to avert the strike. Sounds like job for Bob Crow. It a nice cushy number having a monopoly on underground transport. They always get what they want.

    Gold star for gratuitous mention of Bob Crow on this thread.

    Well done! :rolleyes:
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    DarthGore wrote: »
    I can't wait till they get a fully automated tube network - it works in other countries, I don't see any reason why it can't work in London, London is not some mythical land where only human beings can control a train which is on a set of rails meaning it can only go in one direction

    once a computer replaces the tube drivers, we can stop having to put up with the tube drivers and their soft reasons for striking!

    IIRC one of the Underground lines is almost automatic (in terms of speed regulation), and then there is of course the DLR which is pretty much driverless (usually under computer control, although the "train captain" can drive the train if necessary).
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 82,262
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    occy wrote: »
    ASLEF have said if they want Tube Drivers to work Boxing Day they should be paid 3 days pay + Day off in lieu. London Underground said they can't expect to pay this.

    Why do people want to travel on Boxing Day. Shops should be shut.

    agree with you on that but don't forget Boxing Day, is a big day for sport which people need transport to get to.
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    I Trust in God.I Trust in God. Posts: 1,942
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    Sack the lot and train new drivers at a lower pay rate comparable to other transport staff. These regular strikes are getting to be tiresome.
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    Peter the GreatPeter the Great Posts: 14,229
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    occy wrote: »
    ASLEF have said if they want Tube Drivers to work Boxing Day they should be paid 3 days pay + Day off in lieu. London Underground said they can't expect to pay this.

    Why do people want to travel on Boxing Day. Shops should be shut.
    Er... People should be able to do what they want on this day and what about people who have to get to work on this day?:rolleyes:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 24
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    I would expect double time and a day off in lieu as in incentive to work boxing day.
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    StykerStyker Posts: 49,863
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    psionic wrote: »
    Many people are still working on boxing day, and I suspect quite a few stores will be starting their sales.

    Chance would be a fine thing for those of us who live outside London and other cities but we don't get that chance generally, everything is shut on Boxing Day and New years day so if we have to put up with it, maybe London and the other cities should as well or at least from time to time.
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    mRebelmRebel Posts: 24,882
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    Says on the radio they only get 45K a year and are only asking for triple time in the holidays, to avert the strike. Sounds like job for Bob Crow. It a nice cushy number having a monopoly on underground transport. They always get what they want.

    And bankers get a lot more! Ever hear of them going on strike? No, as they don't need to. They just tell the Government they want more cash and get it, like the £75 billion given to them recently by the Bank of England. Yes, 75 BILLION, and no conditions, like not funding bonuses out of it.
    I don't know if tube train drivers are justified or not, but what's obvious is that it's small change compared to the taxpayers cash bankers pocket. So, if you want to be angry, be angry with the bankers, the biggest parasites in the country.
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    WorkmanWorkman Posts: 90
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    Gold star for gratuitous mention of Bob Crow on this thread.

    Well done! :rolleyes:

    A bottle of bubbly might be more appropriate.

    Morgassi Superiore 2009 Piedmont is apparently one of "Bubbly Bob's" favourite tipples.

    It's only £39 a bottle.
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    paulbrockpaulbrock Posts: 16,632
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    Daveb0789 wrote: »
    I would expect double time and a day off in lieu as in incentive to work boxing day.

    how about "whatever it says in the contract that your union agreed to"?

    Its nonsense.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 24
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    paulbrock wrote: »
    how about "whatever it says in the contract that your union agreed to"?

    Its nonsense.

    I'm not a tube driver but my union has an agreement of exactly that.

    The boxing day arrangement as I understand was apparently for a skeleton service manned by volunteers. Drivers would work 1 in 4 boxing days. Now LUL wants a full Saturday service with no renegotiation. But triple and a day off is excessive.

    It should be noted there will be very little if any national rail services on that day.
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    MartinPMartinP Posts: 31,358
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    I think most people who use the tube would see this as pure greed on the part of the unions and tube drivers.
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    Sniffle774Sniffle774 Posts: 20,290
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    To be fair this is the first time we have ever had a boxing day and the tube network is still very new so its understandable that issue like this might not have ever been covered before in union agreed T&Cs so the unions arent being greedy but are just asking a very valid question......;)
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