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Out of date terms used in broadcasting talk

AngusMastAngusMast Posts: 5,153
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I always laugh when someone says such-and-such a programme is "filmed" when film hasn't been used in decades for most programmes. People even say live programmes are filmed.

Also the term terrestrial has often been misused since the start of DTT.

So what other terms no longer make literal sense?
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    degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    I expect many still say that they tape programmes.
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    technologisttechnologist Posts: 13,383
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    Those in the industry would say "acquired" or "captured" not shot / filmed
    Or "originated "...

    But a file insert may still be called vt,
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    Kenny MacleanKenny Maclean Posts: 1,318
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    AngusMast wrote: »
    I always laugh when someone says such-and-such a programme is "filmed" when film hasn't been used in decades for most programmes. People even say live programmes are filmed.

    Also the term terrestrial has often been misused since the start of DTT.

    So what other terms no longer make literal sense?

    Roll (originally from roll film) V.T. (Video Tape) - Now almost always on server

    Roll titles etc

    Grams (music)
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    anthony davidanthony david Posts: 14,510
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    AngusMast wrote: »
    I always laugh when someone says such-and-such a programme is "filmed" when film hasn't been used in decades for most programmes. People even say live programmes are filmed.

    Also the term terrestrial has often been misused since the start of DTT.

    So what other terms no longer make literal sense?

    These are now generic terms like hoover and biro. The public understand them so they continue to be used. I do object to newspapers using the term digital TV for anything not on channels 1-5 but as they use centigrade when its cold (brr -4 tonight) but Fahrenheit when it's hot (phew 85 today) thats a lost cause.
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    Rodney McKayRodney McKay Posts: 8,143
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    Flash bulbs. Commentators continually say things like flash bulbs going off around the stadium.

    Flash bulbs went out about 40 years ago. You used to get a row of them on a disposable rack or if you were really posh ones that slotted into some massive flash reflector.
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    ocavocav Posts: 2,341
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    These are now generic terms like hoover and biro. The public understand them so they continue to be used. I do object to newspapers using the term digital TV for anything not on channels 1-5 but as they use centigrade when its cold (brr -4 tonight) but Fahrenheit when it's hot (phew 85 today) thats a lost cause.

    What's worse is the Sundays Times listing magazine "Culture" has a ratings section, it's lists 1-5 Top 10's then a Top 10 for "Satellite" which lists the ratings for all channels that aren't 1-5
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    In soaps when there's a cliffhanger and the papers say the BBC or ITV have ''filmed five different endings.'' Who on earth is going to be stupid enough to spend studio time and money when they know the outcome and next week's script has already been written ?

    ''And now the local news where you are'' The local news in the village where I live has never featured on the BBC or ITV (we get it in the pub)

    The national weather forecast mentions the area where you live and then the regional forecast comes on with a totally different interpretation

    BBC News Saturday nights before MOTD: If you don't want to know the results look away now (and the sound continues)

    Sports presenters on the BBC News channel who are never properly identified with a simple name caption but ''And now for the sport over to Fred....''

    Reporters (all channels) who insist on standing in a noisy street with traffic roaring past so their words are inaudible (why not go round the corner where it's quiet)

    Reporters (all channels) who are driving but constantly turning to the camera to deliver their words of wisdom which must endanger anyone in the car with them
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    realwalesrealwales Posts: 3,110
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    I bet the 'vidiprinter' doesn't actually exist these days and hasn't done for many years. It probably takes some computerised form now.
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    Gary_LandyFanGary_LandyFan Posts: 3,824
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    AngusMast wrote: »
    Also the term terrestrial has often been misused since the start of DTT.

    Not really, since DTT stands for Digital Terrestial Television.
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    lundavralundavra Posts: 31,790
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    ftv wrote: »
    ''And now the local news where you are'' The local news in the village where I live has never featured on the BBC or ITV (we get it in the pub)

    I think that is for the Scots with a chip on each shoulder, it avoids using the word 'region'.
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    Omniconsumer93Omniconsumer93 Posts: 735
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    ftv wrote: »
    In soaps when there's a cliffhanger and the papers say the BBC or ITV have ''filmed five different endings.'' Who on earth is going to be stupid enough to spend studio time and money when they know the outcome and next week's script has already been written ?

    ''And now the local news where you are'' The local news in the village where I live has never featured on the BBC or ITV (we get it in the pub)

    The national weather forecast mentions the area where you live and then the regional forecast comes on with a totally different interpretation

    BBC News Saturday nights before MOTD: If you don't want to know the results look away now (and the sound continues)

    Sports presenters on the BBC News channel who are never properly identified with a simple name caption but ''And now for the sport over to Fred....''

    Reporters (all channels) who insist on standing in a noisy street with traffic roaring past so their words are inaudible (why not go round the corner where it's quiet)

    Reporters (all channels) who are driving but constantly turning to the camera to deliver their words of wisdom which must endanger anyone in the car with them

    As someone who works in Broadcasting, I can tell you why they do indeed film multiple outcomes. They know there's a high possibility one will leak to the press, so they sometimes facilitate that themselves to keep the press off the track of the real one. And even though the scripts for the week after will have been written, they're usually written with a degree of flexibility so that it could be changed last minute if they wanted to.

    The leak thing happened with Dallas - one of the 10 or so outcomes of Who Shot JR leaked to the press who reported on it, and it actually helped keep the show in the papers because people were speculating on the (wrong) person's motives for doing it.
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    skp20040skp20040 Posts: 66,874
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    AngusMast wrote: »
    I always laugh when someone says such-and-such a programme is "filmed" when film hasn't been used in decades for most programmes. People even say live programmes are filmed.

    Also the term terrestrial has often been misused since the start of DTT.

    So what other terms no longer make literal sense?

    Film itself may be no longer used but the term is a standard one which we all continue to use as it is understood by all so therefore not outdated and it is an awful lot quicker than saying "this programme was captured live using digital cinematography"
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    davelovesleedsdavelovesleeds Posts: 22,642
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    Roll (originally from roll film) V.T. (Video Tape) - Now almost always on server

    Roll titles etc

    Grams (music)

    I heard Bill O'Reilly say 'roll VT; on comedy channel Fox News only about a week ago.

    ftv wrote: »
    ''And now the local news where you are'' The local news in the village where I live has never featured on the BBC or ITV (we get it in the pub)

    You're in the pub at breakfat time??:o:o:o
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    I heard Bill O'Reilly say 'roll VT; on comedy channel Fox News only about a week ago.




    You're in the pub at breakfat time??:o:o:o

    They also say it at 1.30, 6.30 and 10.30:D
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    petelypetely Posts: 2,994
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    These are now generic terms like hoover and biro. The public understand them so they continue to be used..
    Yes, nobody thinks twice when talking about "cars" (a shortened form of carriage). Words change their meanings and often the kernel of that meaning is not what the original word meant.
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    soulboy77soulboy77 Posts: 24,494
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    It always bemuses me when they say a programme or clip is a live recording!
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    ocavocav Posts: 2,341
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    soulboy77 wrote: »
    It always bemuses me when they say a programme or clip is a live recording!

    It means Recorded as Live
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    ocav wrote: »
    It means Recorded as Live

    But surely anything is live at the point of recording ?
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    lundavralundavra Posts: 31,790
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    The people who go on about analogue radio, compared with DAB. Even though the source material is recorded digitally, it is carried through to the transmitter site digitally - I don't think any are used in the UK but there are transmitters where it stays digital all the way to the transmitter itself.
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    scragendscragend Posts: 423
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    ftv wrote: »
    But surely anything is live at the point of recording ?

    It means they recorded it all in one go, and didn't keep stopping to do retakes etc.
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    gulliverfoylegulliverfoyle Posts: 6,318
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    but its a bit like "doing the hoovering" its a generic term
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    howard hhoward h Posts: 23,369
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    With recorded film being described as "footage" should digital recordings be called "bitage"? Although I vote for the metrication of it and call it "millimetreage".
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    Emmerdale WebEmmerdale Web Posts: 287
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    Pal, Ntsc.
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    ftvftv Posts: 31,668
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    Pal, Ntsc.

    NTSC: Never Twice the Same Colour
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    Emmerdale WebEmmerdale Web Posts: 287
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    ftv wrote: »
    NTSC: Never Twice the Same Colour
    PAL
    Pictures always lovely :D
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