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    stv viewerstv viewer Posts: 17,564
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    I bought the dvd and I have just finished it. It is a bit strange but I was hooked through out. Hope u all enjoy it I think there is a few eps still to be shown on bbc 4 isn't there.
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    stv viewer wrote: »
    I bought the dvd and I have just finished it. It is a bit strange but I was hooked through out. Hope u all enjoy it I think there is a few eps still to be shown on bbc 4 isn't there.

    Its a 4 part series and episode 3 is on this upcoming week, I believe?.
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    stv viewerstv viewer Posts: 17,564
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    IzzyS wrote: »
    Its a 4 part series and episode 3 is on this upcoming week, I believe?.

    Yeah it is 4 parts I just did not know what ep bbc 4 was on. The last ep is the best. The 3 one is good too
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    Killary45Killary45 Posts: 1,828
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    stv viewer wrote: »
    Yeah it is 4 parts I just did not know what ep bbc 4 was on. The last ep is the best. The 3 one is good too

    I found episode 3 just totally annoying from beginning to end. They were just playing with the audience throughout as they teased us with the phone.

    The show is not so much about where is Amber, but how far can the producers exploit the audience with the smallest amount of skill and talent from the writers and actors.

    Anyone who missed that episode missed nothing at all as far as plot or characters relevant to Amber are concerned. It is as if they were asked for an extra episode to fill a gap in the schedule and had to come up with something fast.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    Killary45 wrote: »
    I found episode 3 just totally annoying from beginning to end. They were just playing with the audience throughout as they teased us with the phone.

    The show is not so much about where is Amber, but how far can the producers exploit the audience with the smallest amount of skill and talent from the writers and actors.

    Anyone who missed that episode missed nothing at all as far as plot or characters relevant to Amber are concerned. It is as if they were asked for an extra episode to fill a gap in the schedule and had to come up with something fast.

    I'm beginning to wish Amber would stay missing, I find her a bit annoying.
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    stv viewerstv viewer Posts: 17,564
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    I'm beginning to wish Amber would stay missing, I find her a bit annoying.

    I know I hate the phone message ' tell me something new' who says that
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    plateletplatelet Posts: 26,386
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    I'm beginning to wish Amber would stay missing, I find her a bit annoying.

    :D:rolleyes:
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    CentaurionCentaurion Posts: 2,060
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    I'm beginning to wish Amber would stay missing, I find her a bit annoying.

    Indeed, and her mother is a nutjob, in no small measure due to the fact her "son" is a obviously a girl .
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    cavallicavalli Posts: 18,738
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    I'm beginning to wish Amber would stay missing, I find her a bit annoying.

    :D

    Glad I won't be going to hell alone.
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    Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 32,491
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    Centaurion wrote: »
    Indeed, and her mother is a nutjob, in no small measure due to the fact her "son" is a obviously a girl .

    To be fair, I've not seen a lot of her, mostly the camera following her about as she's walking along the streets, but she has the same inane look on her face and gait, as Julia Bradbury, on one of her many "walks."

    As for the son, an odd bit of casting, as my old dad would have said, in similar situations; "It's probably the kid of a friend of the producer's."
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    That was it?!
    so we'll never know and just have to guess what happened? yeah I can see why people felt frustrated by that ending.
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    cissy scousecissy scouse Posts: 589
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    Very disappointing!
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    EurostarEurostar Posts: 78,519
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    IzzyS wrote: »
    That was it?!
    so we'll never know and just have to guess what happened? yeah I can see why people felt frustrated by that ending.

    There were a lot of complaints in Ireland about the ending
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    Killary45Killary45 Posts: 1,828
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    How on earth did something as bad as this ever get made? And why did the BBC give it air time?

    I know that it is summer. I know that there is a World Cup on. I know that BBC 4 is a minority channel. But this must be the worst crime drama I have ever seen.

    Was there a writer, or did they just let the actors improvise the dialogue and plot as they went along?
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    cissy scousecissy scouse Posts: 589
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    A shame because it started off so well. Great cast, brilliantly acted, and conveyed the devastation of a child going missing on a family. What frustrated me was all the other stories ... especially the guy in prison. How could he have known about the interior of her bedroom? It was a total cop out to leave that unexplained, as that took up almost a whole episode.
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    BosoxBosox Posts: 14,182
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    Was it meant to be 5 episodes but they ran out of money after 4? :confused:
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    Killary45Killary45 Posts: 1,828
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    A shame because it started off so well. Great cast, brilliantly acted, and conveyed the devastation of a child going missing on a family. What frustrated me was all the other stories ... especially the guy in prison. How could he have known about the interior of her bedroom? It was a total cop out to leave that unexplained, as that took up almost a whole episode.

    The second and third episodes were almost entirely self-contained, in that they had no relevance to any other part of the story. In fact they could have added any number of other episodes with irrelevant characters that had no bearing at all to the overall plot - basically because there was no overall plot.

    You could have had an episode with a catholic priest being suspected, another with a link to the IRA, another with corruption in high places implicated, another with one of her teachers, and so on and so on. The story could have included absolutely anything because it really contained absolutely nothing.

    In the last episode we had a ludicrous story with internet porn and Russian brides, but again that had nothing to do with the real plot - because there was no real plot. It is simply not good enough to serve up a drama without a plot. I do not mind open endings leaving us to work things out for ourselves, but that is after we have been on a journey. This show never went anywhere.
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    MrSuperMrSuper Posts: 18,545
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    IzzyS wrote: »
    That was it?!
    so we'll never know and just have to guess what happened? yeah I can see why people felt frustrated by that ending.

    So they made a drama and there was no real ending. No proper whodunnit reveal or why? That's hilarious! :D
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    I thought the final episode was very disappointing - just a lot of loose-ends left dangling in space.

    Shame, as the acting was pretty good for modern-day TV, and the story line promised an interesting conclusion, but then to leave the viewer thinking there must be another episode was a big mistake imo.

    I was expecting episode 4 to reveal that the guy who sold Amber's phone was the key to what happened to her. Seemed to me that the only way the guy who was in prison could have known so much about Amber's bedroom wall was if he had been told about it by someone who had seen the video on her phone.

    Maybe, maybe not, seems like we'll never know.

    Fairly typical of the BBC these days: promises a lot, but delivers little.
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    abrightyzabrightyz Posts: 24,559
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    wtf??
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    MrSuper wrote: »
    So they made a drama and there was no real ending. No proper whodunnit reveal or why? That's hilarious! :D

    Basically, yes. The middle two episodes seemed to go off in tangents suggesting different people had, or may have had, some form of involvement with the missing teen but there were no real conclusions to pull these sort of sub plots together, which is where it doesn't really work because as a viewer, you don't have enough clear information to try to hazard a guess at what happened and come to your own conclusion. We have to presume she's never found again.

    What was all that with the undersea theme, the glow in the dark paint and everything - there were so many sort of random/quirky plot details that you presumed would be explained later on or something but never were. I felt bad for Ambers brother - the mum seemed a right battleaxe and what about the father, did he end up managing to go to the Ukraine and 'find her and bring her home'? did he get done for accessing those websites? ah the questions...
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    IzzySIzzyS Posts: 11,045
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    Peter_CJ wrote: »
    I thought the final episode was very disappointing - just a lot of loose-ends left dangling in space.

    Shame, as the acting was pretty good for modern-day TV, and the story line promised an interesting conclusion, but then to leave the viewer thinking there must be another episode was a big mistake imo.

    I was expecting episode 4 to reveal that the guy who sold Amber's phone was the key to what happened to her. Seemed to me that the only way the guy who was in prison could have known so much about Amber's bedroom wall was if he had been told about it by someone who had seen the video on her phone.

    Maybe, maybe not, seems like we'll never know.

    Fairly typical of the BBC these days: promises a lot, but delivers little.

    I agree, the acting wasn't bad at all. It seemed as if it was heading towards a big ending but it never came, thats the annoyance - it felt as if the loose ends would come together and they didn't.

    Ah the Chinese guy? I was glad he got involved and ensured they found the phone he'd sent in anonymously, considering his partner kept telling him to drop it (why?). I'm still wondering what the story was with that prisoner who seemed to hint he knew what had happened to Amber but hanged himself - they found the body but it was of someone else, so perhaps he was thinking of the wrong person, yet didn't they show a flashback type scene which showed him watching her walk off, from outside a pub or something? so he had seen her? ehhh we'll never know! gah! >:( :confused::(

    Considering they found her shopping bag and the smashed old (or replacement?) light in the river, I'd tend to presume she accidentally fell in and drowned. I think thats the only real conclusion I'd probably come to, anything else is perhaps a little fanciful? sad though.

    Thinking about it, it reminded me of the sci-fi show Heroes, in terms of the different sub plots going on.
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    IzzyS wrote: »
    I agree, the acting wasn't bad at all. It seemed as if it was heading towards a big ending but it never came, thats the annoyance - it felt as if the loose ends would come together and they didn't.

    Ah the Chinese guy? I was glad he got involved and ensured they found the phone he'd sent in anonymously, considering his partner kept telling him to drop it (why?). I'm still wondering what the story was with that prisoner who seemed to hint he knew what had happened to Amber but hanged himself - they found the body but it was of someone else, so perhaps he was thinking of the wrong person, yet didn't they show a flashback type scene which showed him watching her walk off, from outside a pub or something? so he had seen her? ehhh we'll never know! gah! >:( :confused::(

    Considering they found her shopping bag and the smashed old (or replacement?) light in the river, I'd tend to presume she accidentally fell in and drowned. I think thats the only real conclusion I'd probably come to, anything else is perhaps a little fanciful? sad though.

    Thinking about it, it reminded me of the sci-fi show Heroes, in terms of the different sub plots going on.


    I think maybe there was a drama within the drama (behind the scenes), i.e. the authors were hit with crippling writer's-block during episode 3, and then after a period of staring at a blank page, thought they must come up with something to complete their contract.

    So they changed the father from being laid-back and reconciled to the loss of Amber into a man obsessed with the idea she had been taken off by a paedophile ring, who then went off on a wild goose chase. Then, not being able to tie all the ends they had created together, they said: “sod it”, we’ll show Amber walking down a country lane and leave viewers wondering … (for a lot of people, wondering why they’d bothered watching it in the first place!)

    Perhaps the BBC could run a competition for viewers to send in a script for episode 5 of Amber?

    In my version Amber’s father cracks-up completely, murders his business partner, and ends up on a secure psychiatric ward. Her mother’s new relationship goes to the wall because she never stops talking about Amber, and she ends up bankrupt, and goes on the game to make ends meet. Ambers brother turns into a delinquent because of all the stress, and ends up serving time with Ben from EE.

    Then 'out of the blue', Amber turns up full of the joys of life, and reveals that she’s been to the Isle of Wight with her boyfriend for a few months, asking with her usual wide-eyed look: WHAT'S all the fuss about???
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    CentaurionCentaurion Posts: 2,060
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    I had to look in the schedules to see how many parts this drama had, it seems that's it.

    Rather than it having the traditional beginning, middle and end, it had a good beginning, but that was it.

    A lumbering mess of a drama, good acting, great photography, but a script written on the back of a **** packet.

    WTF was the man on the beach ?

    Nice trams though.
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    I rewound the last 10 minutes, thinking I might have fallen asleep and missed the crucial bit.

    Then checked the Sky menu to make sure it said 4/4!

    Much of Amber seemed to have been inspired by the now world famous case of a younger missing child, so presumably the ending reflected the open-ended nature of that case.

    But not a good idea imo.
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