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Opinion Polls Discussion Thread (Part 3)

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    oathyoathy Posts: 32,639
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    TelevisionUserTelevisionUser Posts: 41,417
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    Boyard wrote: »
    Christ, I hope people aren't so stupid that they'd just forget the past 5 years and switch their votes because Kate's popped out a sprog! :confused: Seems a dubious theory to me, especially when so little has managed to even shift the polls for such a long time.

    None of the legitimate polling organisations is mentioning this as a factor because it basically isn't one and it's going to have zero effect.
    I think Labour have some media ownership plurality legislation that would mean the Murdoch empire would be reduced in size? This is what I suspect he fears.

    That's precisely why The Sun has been out to get Miliband with character assassination. It's crude and made him look like a plucky underdog and the strategy should have been more nuanced.

    One of Murdoch's other goals is to gain a majority stakeholding in Sky TV (currently at 39%) and preferably control of 100% of all shares and Murdoch knows that he's got zero chance of that if Miliband becomes PM.
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    What Lord Ashcroft seems to have found is that the Conservatives will not lose as many seats based on marginal constituency polling as the national polls imply. They will however not take as many Lib Dem seats as they hope to and neither will Labour. The Lib Dem seats are holding up better than expected.
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    oathyoathy Posts: 32,639
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    NEW Survation/MoS (chg vs 21/3): CON 33 (+3) LAB 30 (-4) UKIP 18 (+1) LD 9 (-1) SNP 5 (+1) GRE 4 (+1) OTH 1 (-1)
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    HildaonplutoHildaonpluto Posts: 37,697
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    None of the legitimate polling organisations is mentioning this as a factor because it basically isn't one and it's going to have zero effect.



    That's precisely why The Sun has been out to get Miliband with character assassination. It's crude and made him look like a plucky underdog and the strategy should have been more nuanced.

    One of Murdoch's other goals is to gain a majority stakeholding in Sky TV (currently at 39%) and preferably control of 100% of all shares and Murdoch knows that he's got zero chance of that if Miliband becomes PM.

    I wish this was highlighted by more people as it's really a semi affront to a healthy democracy.
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    MattNMattN Posts: 2,534
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    Latest Survation poll (24 - 25 Apr):
    CON - 33% (-)
    LAB - 30% (+1)
    UKIP - 18% (-)
    LDEM - 9% (-1)
    GRN - 4% (-)
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    FusionFuryFusionFury Posts: 14,121
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    oathy wrote: »

    This is getting ridiculous..
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    pixel_pixelpixel_pixel Posts: 6,694
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    I think its fair to say these polls will stay like this right up until polling day.

    Unless something major occurs that is.

    I'm more excited as to the exit poll!
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    carnoch04carnoch04 Posts: 10,275
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    No change then.
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    Jason CJason C Posts: 31,336
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    carnoch04 wrote: »
    Which one has the correct change?

    The bottom figures show the changes from the last Survation poll conducted two days ago, and the top figures show the changes from the last Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday conducted five weeks ago which are frankly misleading.
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    carnoch04carnoch04 Posts: 10,275
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    Jason C wrote: »
    The bottom figures show the changes from the last Survation poll, and the top figures show the changes from the last Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday, which are frankly misleading.

    Thanks. I realised that and changed my post!
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    MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    I am increasingly thinking that yougov are the most accurate. The others are all heavily influenced paid by parties who have paid for the poll.
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    jjnejjne Posts: 6,580
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    Jason C wrote: »
    The bottom figures show the changes from the last Survation poll conducted two days ago, and the top figures show the changes from the last Survation poll for the Mail on Sunday conducted five weeks ago which are frankly misleading.

    Depends on whether they're using the same methodology in both sets of polls as to which is the misleading one.

    It's all MoE though so nothing to get too worried about.
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    PrestonAlPrestonAl Posts: 10,342
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    MC_Satan wrote: »
    I am increasingly thinking that yougov are the most accurate. The others are all heavily influenced paid by parties who have paid for the poll.

    Averaging the polls gives a good indication, but Yougov and ICM are two good polling firms.

    You have to remember that most firms raw data is similar, it is the weighting afterwards that counts.
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    Amanda_RaymondAmanda_Raymond Posts: 2,302
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    How many exit polls are there?
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    jjnejjne Posts: 6,580
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    How many exit polls are there?

    There was only one last time, due to cost.

    Whether this changes this time is open to debate... you can't really run an exit poll online (well you can but its accuracy would be potentially questionable).

    ITV are even less committed to their PSB requirements in 2015 than they were in 2010, so I can't see them running their own this time... maybe Sky will, I'm not sure.
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    carnoch04carnoch04 Posts: 10,275
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    Just one exit poll, jointly commissioned by BBC/ITV/Sky I believe.
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    FuddFudd Posts: 167,002
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    oathy wrote: »

    Neither - unless I'm missing something. :blush:
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    thmsthms Posts: 61,009
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    http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/pivotal-panelbase-poll-pushes-snp-to.html

    "Scottish voting intentions for the May 2015 UK general election (Panelbase) :

    SNP 48% (+3)
    Labour 27% (-2)
    Conservatives 16% (+2)
    Liberal Democrats 4% (n/c)
    UKIP 3% (-1)
    Greens 2% (n/c)"
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    JillyJilly Posts: 20,455
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    @UKELECTIONS2015: Yougov (UK)

    Which of the party leaders do you think is the most
    capable leader?

    Cameron 33%
    Sturgeon 17%
    Miliband 15%
    Farage 7%
    Clegg 4%
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    thorrthorr Posts: 2,153
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    carnoch04 wrote: »
    Just one exit poll, jointly commissioned by BBC/ITV/Sky I believe.

    I find it amusing that they commission an exit poll, considering it is announced on election night at 10pm, and the result is usually known by the following morning. I mean, why bother....
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    thorr wrote: »
    I find it amusing that they commission an exit poll, considering it is announced on election night at 10pm, and the result is usually known by the following morning. I mean, why bother....
    It gives the pundits something to talk about for3 hours until the results start flooding in
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    JillyJilly Posts: 20,455
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    It gives the pundits something to talk about for3 hours until the results start flooding in

    I think your right, did they get it drastically wrong in 1992.
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    MattXfactorMattXfactor Posts: 3,223
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    Jilly wrote: »
    I think your right, did they get it drastically wrong in 1992.

    Yes miles out but usually its extremely accurate
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    AdsAds Posts: 37,057
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    I'd prefer they didn't do an exit poll as it would make things a lot more exciting watching the votes come in one by one - it would be a bit like Eurovision!

    The Exit Poll was pretty much spot on in 2010, so it took a lot of drama out of election night.
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