Are some soaps more working-class than others?
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I find it difficult to get into Hollyoaks, Emmerdale, and Corrie because they seem more working-class than EE, Neighbours and H&A, is this the case?
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Emmerdale has the Sharmas, Whites, Megan,Frank, Paddy, the Thomases, Vanessa,Eric, Davidand,Rhona who to me would all be middle class. Then a lot for into that vague lower middle class/ upper working class category - the Kings, the Bartons,Marlon, Bob, and the Sugden/Blackstocks
Emmerdale has a mix of two but is more middle class, CS is somewhere in the middle, Doctors and Neighbours is more middle class
I think maybe HO has the working class reputation because of the McQueen family, and Ste, who are probably the most well known characters on the show, but they are usually looked down on by other characters for being quite chavvy.
Really I can't think of any reason why H&A would be thought of as lower/working class.
We tend to hear them talking about going into Leeds quite often so I'm assuming it's closeby? In real life it would be a fairly affluent community with most people commuting into Leeds or York for work.
I can in comparison to others I think it's more so, I think the show is more likely to attract young people and working class people. Everything from the beach location, the jobs, aspirations of the majority of characters for every Zac and Morag there are more Morgan types, Martin Ashford, Matt erc
They definitely do exist in Yorkshire. Most people where I am from are fiercely protective of their working class roots despite working in occupations and living a lifestyle that most might consider to be middle class.
I came from a mining family and my father was working class through and through, but wanted better for his kids. I'd say therefore, I am aspiring working class. There is no doubt where I come from but given my level of education, career path and lifestyle, my children would undoubtedly be considered to be middle class.
Emmerdale very definitely not working class as a whole, although there are working class people on it, unless you're confusing your description of working class with the word Northern as that's the only similarity between those three soaps.
Leeds is about 3 miles away from the real life Emmerdale set on the Harewood Estate and it's 10 miles SE of Otley, which is where they film the Hotten scenes.
Otley is very much a market town with a mix of all financial brackets and, sadly, in recent years has become a desired location for commuters pushing the housing prices up a lot.
I think some people define working class as ' has never had a job'!
Apparently they' ve invented a new social category for the likes of ye and me but I can't t remember what it's s called:o
Home & Away has always been more working class than Neighbours - you can tell just by the characters' accents.
They sound the same too me
I think that it's s quite far from Emmerdale - maybe 30 miles or something. Not local but near enough to travel to relatively easily I think it reality it would be the domain of retired locals and affluent commuters and urban émigrés.
But all of them are mixed in a way, like you get people in Corrie such as Sally who could be argued as middle class and then the Dingles in emmerdale which are more working class
Yep, the Harewood Estate is basically on the outskirts of Leeds with just a bit of green belt in between. It's 9 miles into Leeds city centre from Harewood House though.
In the TV show I have no idea how far apart they are supposed to be from each other.
The centre of Leeds is about 10 miles from Harewood. I was up at Harewood House a few weeks ago for FriendsFest.
I think fictional Emmerdale is supposedly just north of Otley so about another 5-10 miles from Harewood.
The original farm is half a mile outside of Otley at Lindley but the Woolpack etc were miles away completely in Esholt, so I'm not sure if they've ever identified the whole village as a "real place" if you see what I mean?
Harewood is eight miles away from Otley.
I remember Leyla taking Jacob there on the bus or train, and she seemed to get there relativelyeasily but I' m just guessing. I think they would have loads of commuters, especially when they seem to be close to a motorway, and there's a market town nearby too.
Yeah I think you're right but I remember seeing a documentary where someone said that in the begninning it was implied that the farm was literally at the foot of the Yorkshire Dales National Park, so I'm just making an assumption. Personally it doesn't feel as rural as it once did and could actually be any little village out towards the airport, just on the fringe of Leeds, with Moira's farm being a little further north I guess?
I quite fancy visiting Harewood. I often see it advertised - it looks beautiful.