Options
Sorry but i still don't think Lucinda is very good.
DUNDEEBOY
Posts: 110,052 Forum Member
✭✭✭✭
Thought she has had a lot of luck this series , she couldn't sell anything in great numbers, think this will be proved next week. Still doesn't really have much of a business brain.
I feel the toys for boys task may be the end of her next week.
Still think she comes across as rather patronising at times and over estimates her "skills" and "abilities"
I feel the toys for boys task may be the end of her next week.
Still think she comes across as rather patronising at times and over estimates her "skills" and "abilities"
0
Comments
I fail to see your point.
She lost the first time she was PM. (Ice-cream task)
SAS may think that she lacks 'leadership' for not being bolshy, but in the real world, where employees have to pay attention to their manager, she would not be sidelined and she would succeed more often than she failed.
it'll probably turn out that she can't drive next week...
Can you refresh my memory on this?
What I recall is seeing her go on and on about the box after it was too late to do anything about it. Do you have any insight into what the point of doing that was because I'm coming up short in working out how that was helping the team.
But then I'm wondering who is the ideal candidate for Sir Alan's company????????
I doubt any of the audience knows.
This show has been a sham from start to end and I have no belief, or even direction of whom SA wants in his company.
And worse...........I really couldn't give a toss, as it's all showmance stuff now. And ironically what SA sacked others for earlier on in the show. :rolleyes:
She looked fantastic in that short sparkly dress!
Despite seeing that twice (once on YF), I couldn't hear what she said before "naughty, naughty". What was she complaining about there?
On the subject of her behaviour last night, I agree that it wasn't particularly constructive but I think she was just so frustrated that the team had done such an appalling job (even if they did turn out to be lucky winners).
I still think she's by far the strongest candidate (unless Helene is being deliberately kept under wraps by the editing process).
Agree with you
And I hope she did buy that sparkly dress
How many times has SAS told them off for not saying anything sooner before firing them?
Also Lee lied, Lucinda did want to be in on the design and did not offer to do the location hunt.
Too much of "that's what I mean" mentality for me.
Lucinda and Claire for me ....
Perhaps she now realises that she has to do a bit of back-stabbing to stay in the competition.
SAS did agree with her that the box design was horrible - the boys were thoroughly pleased with their choices.
Some people seem to think Lucinda is a nice person because she has been the victim of some pretty unpleasant and personal abuse. I have some news for you: being a victim doesn't necessarily make you a nice person or competent at business. Lucinda may have shown concern for other victims of abuse, but this behaviour was essentially just a mutual comforting by the incompetents.
The only reason that, until recently, we have not seen the conceited, self-indulgent and self-serving side of Lucinda is because she has been obliged through her incompetence and low self-esteem to keep a low profile and accommodate others. She had to be more assertive as PM, but the tasks on both occasions ( the ice cream selling and the wedding dress promotion ) required little project management and few decisions and so her being inept, ineffectual and inoffensive were not problems.
The confidence that she gained through winning the wedding task and receiving an endorsement from her team has, as usual with these sorts of people, revealed the true monster that lurks within; she is a petty-minded, inept, confused incompetent who can't prioritise issues or tasks.
She is only at the start of the path to being a competent manager and this was graphically demonstrated in this episode. With her newly gained confidence she decided that a self-serving approach was desirable; she carped at every opportunity, whether on petty or substantive issues, and criticised all team decisions with a destructive vigour so she could later disown them in the boardroom. This negative and immature strategy, which almost amounted to sabotage, was the same strategy that Claire adopted weeks ago and seems to have abandoned after suffering the consequences. Lucinda may in many weeks time develop further and catch up with the rest of them but I doubt it, she is trailing and destined to fail.
An interesting question for Lucinda lovers, who usually dislike Alex, emerges from her recent behaviour: what would you think if Alex had been as disruptive as Lucinda in his tasks ? Had he behaved like Lucinda there would have been a baying for his blood. Alex had the good sense to go along with decisions he couldn't change and make the best of bad jobs, Lucinda couldn't see the bigger picture and indulged every negative and selfish whim she had at the expense of her team.
aka opinions. You need to tone down your vindictive manner. It stopped me reading the rest of the post, which I'm sure was actually thought-provoking.
The box was garish.
It was badly designed - nobody wants to look at a snotty nose.
The advert had nothing vaguely interesting in it.
As she was a target consumer for the tissues, buying many herself, she should've been present in the design. Not two males.
The box was surrounded by dead flowers etc etc.
She was just frustrated because Lee and Alex had the boys club mindset and chose to work with each other and back each other up. When she finally got through to Alex, and he let her sit in on the filming, he even admitted himself that she was very positive and responded well to questions he asked her.
They were blatantly trying to bully her out of opinion, accusing her of volounteering for the location job when she clearly did not. Lee tried to shout at her in the cab and she wouldn't stand for it.
And the glut of funny faces the pair made behind her back, they showed her no respect when in fact, everything she said was right. The box looked shit, you don't have dead flowers in an advert.
Of course, Sir Al is willing to overlook this stuff just to eject the posh bloke.
This is an apologist nonsense.
You last paragraph is most telling. You say that she responded positively to the film and answered questions positively.......... Jesuss!!!!!!!! That behaviour is the bare MINIMUM one would expect from a team member. One expects a team member to make a positive rather than a negative contribution, so for you, as her supporter, to cite this behaviour as positive makes the case for her detractors !
The box was garish but it was aimed at the female market as Lee said in his pitch and there are many garish products which succeed and it certainly stood out.
It did not have a snotty nose on it.
How many adverts do have interesting things in them?
Lucinda's alternative ideas were appalling, so it was a good job she didn't contribute.
The box was not surrounded by dead flowers, did you notice any dead flowers in the clip of the ad they showed ? No of course you didn't. It was a typical case of Lucinda obsessing with irrelevancies in a desperate attempt to criticise the ad and the boy's performance and enhance her status.
Your points in support of Lucinda are as flawed as her contribution to the team.