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BBC iplayer should go global

Bob_WhingerBob_Whinger Posts: 1,098
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The BBC iplayer is restricted to 64 million viewers in the UK. There are 2 billion+ potental viewers on the planet. Why not broadcats on the internet globally ? It was said it would be unfair competition against commercial broadcasters. Do you think the American corporations would hold back due to perceived fairness. A global iplayer site could show adverts (like ITV and Youtube) for revenue for the BBC.

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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    The BBC iplayer is restricted to 64 million viewers in the UK. There are 2 billion+ potental viewers on the planet. Why not broadcats on the internet globally ? It was said it would be unfair competition against commercial broadcasters. Do you think the American corporations would hold back due to perceived fairness. A global iplayer site could show adverts (like ITV and Youtube) for revenue for the BBC.

    That's because it's the BRITISH Broadcasting corporation I-Player not the World Broadcasting Corporation I-Player.
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    Gary_LandyFanGary_LandyFan Posts: 3,824
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    Why should programming WE have paid for be available to everyone else?
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    gomezzgomezz Posts: 44,633
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    Stick it behind a paywall for non-licence payers (home *and* abroad) and you would have no argument from me.
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    CharnhamCharnham Posts: 61,395
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    Worldwide has attempted to take the iPlayer global in the past, however whilst the software is sound, it can only air what it can get the rights to commercially, so its never going to be the full iPlayer.

    Meanwhile having the iPlayer open to the world, devalues the rights to programming, when they are sold around the world.
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    bluesdiamondbluesdiamond Posts: 11,362
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    mmmm and will Hawaii 5-0 be made available by CBS (okay no TV Licence but being on Sky 1 it is behind a paywall)?
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    Bob_WhingerBob_Whinger Posts: 1,098
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    Why should programming WE have paid for be available to everyone else?

    Because the adverts would provide income for the BBC to subsidise the licence fee.
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    CricketbladeCricketblade Posts: 2,218
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    Isn't bbc america a pay channel in the US? Think it gets like 2 million for the big shows at a peak. Simply isn;t the demand out there for it to make it make any sense.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,078
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    Why should programming WE have paid for be available to everyone else?

    It's easy and FTA on satellite for a lot of Europe, the beam isn't very tight to the UK.

    Seeing as they educate their population in the English language a lot better than frankly we do to our own in this country (who our own actually are and what their first language is is another argument entirely) then who could blame them.

    I watch German FTA tv.
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    The PhazerThe Phazer Posts: 8,487
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    shhftw wrote: »
    It's easy and FTA on satellite for a lot of Europe, the beam isn't very tight to the UK.

    It certainly is now.

    The UK iPlayer will never be available internationally. The rights are unclearable.
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    TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    "Never" is a very long time.

    But the main reason is because the BBC should not be in the business of business.

    Alas, it's already ruined by the commercial requirements of successive government.
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    PatrickBateman1PatrickBateman1 Posts: 924
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    The Phazer wrote: »
    The UK iPlayer will never be available internationally.

    Not officially anyway.
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    Bob_WhingerBob_Whinger Posts: 1,098
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    Some very negativity comments here on what is a very good and workable idea.
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    mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    gomezz wrote: »
    Stick it behind a paywall for non-licence payers (home *and* abroad) and you would have no argument from me.

    You would almost certainly have arguments with the respective rights holders though, paywall or otherwise.

    Trying to get rights agreements would be nigh on impossible for many programmes, and it would almost certainly increase the costs of programme production.

    Unworkable
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    mossy2103mossy2103 Posts: 84,308
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    Some very negativity comments here on what is a very good and workable idea.

    Er, the comments have indicated that it's a bad and unworkable idea.
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    ocavocav Posts: 2,341
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    mmmm and will Hawaii 5-0 be made available by CBS (okay no TV Licence but being on Sky 1 it is behind a paywall)?

    CBS Catch Up is free, so with the right DNS you can watch, however it's the same restriction with BBC iPlayer, with the right DNS you can watch anywhere in the world.
    Isn't bbc america a pay channel in the US? Think it gets like 2 million for the big shows at a peak. Simply isn;t the demand out there for it to make it make any sense.

    Yeah BBC America does extremely well, however a lot of the shows are sold to other broadcasters with only Doctor Who, The Musketeers, Atlantis and Top Gear being the big names on the channel that are from the UK.
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    anthony davidanthony david Posts: 14,511
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    ocav wrote: »



    Yeah BBC America does extremely well, however a lot of the shows are sold to other broadcasters with only Doctor Who, The Musketeers, Atlantis and Top Gear being the big names on the channel that are from the UK.

    You gave that in reply to a post that said that BBC America has only 2 million viewers, did you bother to read it first?
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    ocavocav Posts: 2,341
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    You gave that in reply to a post that said that BBC America has only 2 million viewers, did you bother to read it first?

    It's a pay channel, Doctor Who last Christmas (on Christmas Day) got the same sort of viewing figures as Fargo on FX, in the pay tv market it's doing well.

    Sources: http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/matt-smiths-doctor-who-departure-2966238
    http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/fx-tv-show-ratings-33426/
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    bananaman_007bananaman_007 Posts: 8,707
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    Some very negativity comments here on what is a very good and workable idea.

    I disagree in being forced to pay over £140 a year for the BBC, to have other people be able to access that content for free of charge is not a good an workable idea in my opinion. The BBC needs to stop charging a license fee in the UK before giving content to international viewers free of charge first.
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    anthony davidanthony david Posts: 14,511
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    I disagree in being forced to pay over £140 a year for the BBC, to have other people be able to access that content for free of charge is not a good an workable idea in my opinion. The BBC needs to stop charging a license fee in the UK before giving content to international viewers free of charge first.

    I assume they would pay for it but if the BBC America figures are anything to go by the admin may cost more than the returns.
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    Gary_LandyFanGary_LandyFan Posts: 3,824
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    shhftw wrote: »
    It's easy and FTA on satellite for a lot of Europe, the beam isn't very tight to the UK.

    Seeing as they educate their population in the English language a lot better than frankly we do to our own in this country (who our own actually are and what their first language is is another argument entirely) then who could blame them.

    I watch German FTA tv.
    There is a big difference to broadcasting on satellite and being available via the web.

    To access it via satellite you have to have a dish pointed at Astra, not something that many will have, but the iPlayer would be available to everyone with an Internet connection.
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    anthony davidanthony david Posts: 14,511
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    shhftw wrote: »
    It's easy and FTA on satellite for a lot of Europe, the beam isn't very tight to the UK.

    Seeing as they educate their population in the English language a lot better than frankly we do to our own in this country (who our own actually are and what their first language is is another argument entirely) then who could blame them.

    I watch German FTA tv.

    Not as easy as it was due to change of satellite. OK Holland Belgium and parts of France but beyond that you may need a very big dish.
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    zz9zz9 Posts: 10,767
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    Some very negativity comments here on what is a very good and workable idea.

    It isn't "workable" when the BBC simply do not have the rights to air content worldwide, and getting those rights would cost a significant amount of money, which would have to be paid for by the British licence fee payers.

    Would you say "The NHS should provide treatment to tourists free of charge" at the expense of UK taxpayers?
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    anthony davidanthony david Posts: 14,511
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    Either the OP lives abroad or has an overinflated idea of the worth of BBC programmes to nationals of other countries. In multilingual Holland, where people have access to programming from all over Europe via cable, and can understand them, polls show that they prefer dutch stations. Most people are only interested in their own media. Expats don't count as they don't pay into the system.
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