PC is locked by Police Virus * Help Needed

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  • LION8TIGERLION8TIGER Posts: 8,484
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    I had to go around to a neighours because they couldn't get on the internet with their new Win 8 laptop. This was their first ever computer and I'd never seen Win 8 before but opened IE and Bing opened, searched for something and got the results .. ''there's the internet'' I said and left quickly.

    If the Police scam pops up on their screen and Dad has been watching some porn, well he won't want his wife or kids seeing it ..... so, knowing absolutely nothing about computers he may think it is genuine and pay.
    I reckon this scam must be in the top 10 for raking in the money.
  • SebastianJackSebastianJack Posts: 58
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    LION8TIGER wrote: »
    ... if the Police scam pops up on their screen and Dad has been watching some porn, well he won't want his wife or kids seeing it ..... so, knowing absolutely nothing about computers he may think it is genuine and pay.
    I reckon this scam must be in the top 10 for raking in the money.

    Yep. agreed. For the reasons you quote, it's probably the worst... and most effective scam ever. It taps into our psychological fear of 'guilt' and 'shame' about being discovered doing or looking at something we shouldn't have.... it's called RANSOMWARE... but, when you think about it for a minute, it's also BLACKMAIL-WARE.

    At whatever cost, the 'Dad' will cough up the readies to avoid any embarrassing explanations to his wife.

    Not that that will solve anything of course... once these guys have your credit card details, they will embark on an extensive shopping expedition at your expense.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,566
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    Physocoligcal is where these scams look now as the physical is being overcome not in all cases but some.
  • Helmut10Helmut10 Posts: 2,433
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    PES 2009 wrote: »
    However I remain convinced that there has to be a way to of removing the virus without resorting to an windows install.
    What may help in the future is to make yourself a Bootable AV Rescue CD, or USB Key drive. There are a number of free ones available from Kaspersky, Avira, AVG and others.

    You can then Bootup your PC using one of these Boot Rescue disks, or USB keys which have an OS and Virus/Malware scanners included which you can update. It's all on the CD/USB key so Windows is not started.

    This latter point is of course useful for your problem and similar ones.

    Some of these may also include a few utilities like Reg Editor(see SebastianJack's answer), Web Browser and File Manager which will also allow you to copy stuff elsewhere.
    They connect up to the Internet via Wired Network, and in some cases Wireless as well (in mine, Kaspersky and the AVG ones do).

    Once you have gained control back and can Boot Windows you should then run your usual AV software and things like Malwarebytes Antimalware, or whatever, to get rid of anything left.
  • max99max99 Posts: 9,002
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    Helmut10 wrote: »
    PES 2009

    What may help in the future is to make yourself a Bootable AV Rescue CD, or USB Key drive. There are a number of free ones available from Kaspersky, Avira, AVG and others.

    You can then Bootup your PC using one of these Boot Rescue disks, or USB keys which have an OS and Virus/Malware scanners included which you can update. It's all on the CD/USB key so Windows is not started.

    This latter point is of course useful for your problem and similar ones.

    Some of these may also include a few utilities like Reg Editor(see SebastianJack's answer), Web Browser and File Manager which will also allow you to copy stuff elsewhere.
    They connect up to the Internet via Wired Network, and in some cases Wireless as well (in mine, Kaspersky and the AVG ones do).

    Once you have gained control back and can Boot Windows you should then run your usual AV software and things like Malwarebytes Antimalware, or whatever, to get rid of anything left.

    All good advice, but the question always comes down to how long do you spend running scans? The first scan could take an hour or two and come back clean. The next one, the same. The machine could have been restored/reinstalled and updated in that time.

    Alternatively, a ten minute scan may remove all traces of the malware and save you the trouble of doing the restore/reinstall. Without hindsight, it can be a tough decision. This is where having a disk image makes life easier. If you get infected (or whatever), you can restore quickly and easily without having to spend time diagnosing problems or running scans.
  • Fried KickinFried Kickin Posts: 60,132
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    The dicks who made this "ransomware" have been nicked .. so every cloud and all that ;)
    http://www.hotforsecurity.com/blog/three-brits-arrested-for-running-police-ransomware-con-4819.html
  • SebastianJackSebastianJack Posts: 58
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    The dicks who made this "ransomware" have been nicked .. so every cloud and all that ;)
    http://www.hotforsecurity.com/blog/three-brits-arrested-for-running-police-ransomware-con-4819.html

    Nice find, Fried Kickin...

    Wonder what the penalty of impersonating a police officer is these days?? !!

    ...but very nice find indeed!

    Rgrds,
    SebJ.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,566
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    LION8TIGER wrote: »
    I had to go around to a neighours because they couldn't get on the internet with their new Win 8 laptop. This was their first ever computer and I'd never seen Win 8 before but opened IE and Bing opened, searched for something and got the results .. ''there's the internet'' I said and left quickly.

    If the Police scam pops up on their screen and Dad has been watching some porn, well he won't want his wife or kids seeing it ..... so, knowing absolutely nothing about computers he may think it is genuine and pay.
    I reckon this scam must be in the top 10 for raking in the money.

    A lot of people have fell for this scam so agree got to be up there in the top 10.
  • LeviathainLeviathain Posts: 719
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    Money making scam which would explain why this bellend has uploaded 406 videos which all link to this virus.

    Warning: Do not download anything from this person

    Anyone have any idea how I can report this guy and get all his videos removed off youtube?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,566
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    A start would be to report the offender to youtube since they are displaying the content and they can remove it but it needs reporting first before anything can be done.

    Please explain to them and for them to check the download links one i tried is reported by my security as an infection.

    Videos about hacking are a sure sign that any download may be hazardous to a computers health.
  • dodgygeezadodgygeeza Posts: 6,350
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    Leviathain wrote: »
    Money making scam which would explain why this bellend has uploaded 406 videos which all link to this virus.

    Warning: Do not download anything from this person

    Anyone have any idea how I can report this guy and get all his videos removed off youtube?
    Looks like someone beat you to it OR Youtube acted bloody fast as its already gone :)
  • LeviathainLeviathain Posts: 719
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    dodgygeeza wrote: »
    Looks like someone beat you to it OR Youtube acted bloody fast as its already gone :)

    Looks like he's got several other aliases.
  • JohnbeeJohnbee Posts: 4,019
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    max99 wrote: »
    You frequently come across as being incompetent, so of course no amount of advice is going to help you.

    So you fancy yourself as a bit of a tough guy cyber bully then? How sweet.
  • curiousclivecuriousclive Posts: 378
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    PES 2009 wrote: »
    Already tried a couple of boot scanners, Kaspersky Rescue Disk and HitmanPro. Both were unable to detect the virus and did pretty much fek all.

    If you can get a friend to download the bootable version of AVG or trend Micro antivirus programs burn them to CD/DVD and then boot with each one at a time runs cans and see what they find. Both these programs are very good at finding unusual Trojans.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,566
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    Leviathain wrote: »

    You have been given the advice on how to deal with these people please try and follow the advice and do something about it.
  • max99max99 Posts: 9,002
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    Johnbee wrote: »
    So you fancy yourself as a bit of a tough guy cyber bully then? How sweet.

    No, just someone who tells the truth. If you keep giving poor advice whilst sneering at other poster's advice, you can expect to be criticised. Simple as that.
  • PencilBreathPencilBreath Posts: 3,643
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    half this thread is just you guys arguing with eachother

    if this happened to me I'd be running hijackthis & posting a log either here or on the hijackthis forums. they love tough problems to crack. good luck op & happy xmas ;)
  • LeviathainLeviathain Posts: 719
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    half this thread is just you guys arguing with eachother

    if this happened to me I'd be running hijackthis & posting a log either here or on the hijackthis forums. they love tough problems to crack. good luck op & happy xmas ;)

    How would you run hijack this if you cannot get into windows?
  • BrokenArrowBrokenArrow Posts: 21,665
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    How do you actually get this virus on your computer, even from a web page ?

    Surely you have to click on something to OK it to be installed.

    Edit, this page has useful tips on removing this virus using Hitman Pro installed on a USB stick.
  • PencilBreathPencilBreath Posts: 3,643
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    Leviathain wrote: »
    How would you run hijack this if you cannot get into windows?

    I didn't realise he couldn't use windows, sorry useless tip then lol
  • Si_CreweSi_Crewe Posts: 40,202
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    Yep. agreed. For the reasons you quote, it's probably the worst... and most effective scam ever. It taps into our psychological fear of 'guilt' and 'shame' about being discovered doing or looking at something we shouldn't have.... it's called RANSOMWARE... but, when you think about it for a minute, it's also BLACKMAIL-WARE.

    At whatever cost, the 'Dad' will cough up the readies to avoid any embarrassing explanations to his wife.

    Not that that will solve anything of course... once these guys have your credit card details, they will embark on an extensive shopping expedition at your expense.

    Kinda reminds me....

    A couple of years ago somebody brought me a pretty fancy Sony TY to fit a new LCD screen into.

    The telly had a slot-loading DVD player built into it and it turned out that what'd happened was that the owner had stuck a porno DVD into and then, when he tried to eject it, the paper label had got snagged in the mechanism so it couldn't eject and the DVD re-loaded itself into the machine.

    To make it worse, the TV was designed to be "helpful" by automatically switching to DVD mode and auto-playing the DVD as soon as one was loaded. :D

    As a result of this little farce, the guy (a smart guy who actually worked in corporate R&D) panicked and decided the only "solution" was to deliberately smash the screen so that the TV couldn't be viewed until he could get the DVD out, which he also asked me to do.

    I mean, obviously what he did was a bit bonkers but it just shows you what lengths people will go to in order to avoid embarassment.
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    Gee whiz...sorry.not the best advert in the world.

    Merry christmas to ya.
  • Fowl FaxFowl Fax Posts: 3,968
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    How do you actually get this virus on your computer, even from a web page ?

    Surely you have to click on something to OK it to be installed.

    Edit, this page has useful tips on removing this virus using Hitman Pro installed on a USB stick.

    I got this virus last year through a web site pop up.

    Avast gave me a warning about blocking an executable before I was greeted with the 'Pay £100 to the Police to unlock your PC' message.

    Booting PC in safe mode by pressing F8 and then running Malwarebytes removed it, but it seems the virus has got more extreme and safe mode is no longer a remedy.
  • Tal'shiarTal'shiar Posts: 2,290
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    Yep. agreed. For the reasons you quote, it's probably the worst... and most effective scam ever. It taps into our psychological fear of 'guilt' and 'shame' about being discovered doing or looking at something we shouldn't have.... it's called RANSOMWARE... but, when you think about it for a minute, it's also BLACKMAIL-WARE.

    At whatever cost, the 'Dad' will cough up the readies to avoid any embarrassing explanations to his wife.

    Not that that will solve anything of course... once these guys have your credit card details, they will embark on an extensive shopping expedition at your expense.

    Few years back a scam that was similar was reported to be earned millions of pounds.

    All they did was send a letter informing the account holder of the internet that they had been logged downloading some illegal porn. Illegal in the not paid for sense.

    Anyway, the porn was always something like "Gay Bois 7" and more lurid titles. The idea being that old Dad might have been looking at porn, but he may well never have seen the ones mentioned. Yet is he going to take it to court and have it all exposed to his family and friends? nope. So the option to settle for a grand was more often than not taken up. They used shame to scare you into paying.

    Its like the old school honey trap.

    The police one I have had to fix MANY times. People need to clue up a little though, the police do not let you pay for a crime with a one off credit card payment, they knock on your door and take you down to the nick.

    Also, stop going to dodgy sites unless you know how to navigate safely on those types of sites. I think we all know the ones I am talking about (I ****ing hate limewire and the people who use it and frostwire)
  • GroutyGrouty Posts: 34,020
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    Now you've done a re-install, and got everything back on, make an image of it, as it will save you having to re-install everything again if anything else happens, you'll just have to copy it back :)
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