I use facebook for keeping in touch with friends. Believe it or not not everyone takes millions of pictures of themselves and plaster them all over the internet.
I haven't made your point for you, though thanks for the attempt at undermining my posts
I think there are several Viz 'Farmer Palmers' on here.
Most of us get pleasure from eating animals. She gets pleasure from shooting them. Who are we as meat eaters to judge her? She makes it clear she is not killing endangered species so what is the problem, exactly?
I think the problem is her honesty. How dare she not make a false show of piety.
What is the big difference between an omnivore eating a dead animal for pleasure, and a hunter killing an animal for pleasure?
I ask this every time these threads come up, and all I ever get in reply are insults.
Ha ha! Because, of course, nature is exactly like that.
Last time I tried to explain to someone that I got compared to Hitler. Apparently explaining to an animal rights group why they are flawed in thinking that the natural world is all sunshine and lollipops is equivalent to a genocidal dictator.
I don't agree with hunting. I think an alternative to it should be found in order to prevent extinction.
I don't think the people out hunting are doing it for conservation reasons. They're doing it to brag that they killed a lion or a leopard or whatever hence the pictures being taken
Oh, I'm sure you're right.
In the absence of any miracle alternative, however, we have to come to terms with the unpalatable truth that culling is a legitimate part of conservation as a result of humans dominance over the environment and once you accept that fact, the only remaining dilemma is whether or not it's okay to let stupid people pay obscene amounts of money to impoverished communities for the privilege of doing something that needs doing anyway.
In the grand scheme of things, if the animals need controlling, I don't really have a problem with people handing over huge gobs of money to get it done.
Course, I'm not saying that's the only sort of hunting that happens and when people just jump in a 4x4 and start plugging away at whatever they see out in the wild, there's no excuse for it at all.
In the absence of any miracle alternative, however, we have to come to terms with the unpalatable truth that culling is a legitimate part of conservation as a result of humans dominance over the environment and once you accept that fact, the only remaining dilemma is whether or not it's okay to let stupid people pay obscene amounts of money to impoverished communities for the privilege of doing something that needs doing anyway.
In the grand scheme of things, if the animals need controlling, I don't really have a problem with people handing over huge gobs of money to get it done.
Course, I'm not saying that's the only sort of hunting that happens and when people just jump in a 4x4 and start plugging away at whatever they see out in the wild, there's no excuse for it at all.
I agree, sadly it is the only way any large animals at all will be able to survive on on overcrowded planet.
What I really object to is that repulsive little redneck and her attitude.
Well, quite. I just hope that vulture and crocodile don't go posting pictures of their feats on facebook...
That would not be dumb enough!
On my animal intelligence thread I think I have mentioned when animal are taken out of the brutality of the food chain, they can start to relax and show the cognitive abilities that they are capable off but have no time for in the wild.
In the absence of any miracle alternative, however, we have to come to terms with the unpalatable truth that culling is a legitimate part of conservation as a result of humans dominance over the environment and once you accept that fact, the only remaining dilemma is whether or not it's okay to let stupid people pay obscene amounts of money to impoverished communities for the privilege of doing something that needs doing anyway.
In the grand scheme of things, if the animals need controlling, I don't really have a problem with people handing over huge gobs of money to get it done.
Course, I'm not saying that's the only sort of hunting that happens and when people just jump in a 4x4 and start plugging away at whatever they see out in the wild, there's no excuse for it at all.
I dont understand why theres such a great need for humans to decide that animals need culling. I will take it that in extreme cases it does need doing so as long as its done as humanely as possible i cant object to it too much.
I just dont see why humans are automatically in the top position when it comes to all this. Why should animals be killed to make room for more humans?
If anything the human race is becoming overpopulated. Would the hunters be willing to become the prey? No they wouldnt.
My objection is to the hunting as a sport mentality. I just dont see why they need to kill a deer, chop off its head and stick it on the wall to get enjoyment.
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I think there are several Viz 'Farmer Palmers' on here.
get orf moi laaaaaaaaaaand!!!
'Im were worryin' moi sheep...
I think the problem is her honesty. How dare she not make a false show of piety.
What is the big difference between an omnivore eating a dead animal for pleasure, and a hunter killing an animal for pleasure?
I ask this every time these threads come up, and all I ever get in reply are insults.
i googled that (viz was before my time) and it led me to a thread about dogs worrying sheep.
I went in expecting a laugh about dogs trying it on with sheep but it turns out I had the wrong meaning of 'worrying'.
I am going to special hell
D'awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
I suspect it is a question that some find it difficult to answer.
The reason you get insults is because most people don't want to change their lifestyle.
Sadly I think it will take at least another 100 years if not more.:(
SHOOT IT!
KILL THE FILTHY VERMIN!
Ha ha! Because, of course, nature is exactly like that.
On this we agree!
Viz before your time? Great Scott, I've been reading it since 1985 and it's still going today...
No it is like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRFOOLWjhH0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf_L3kiuX6s
I am under no illusions of the sheer brutality of the lean, mean, green, gene-machine.
Last time I tried to explain to someone that I got compared to Hitler. Apparently explaining to an animal rights group why they are flawed in thinking that the natural world is all sunshine and lollipops is equivalent to a genocidal dictator.
Who knew
Oh, I'm sure you're right.
In the absence of any miracle alternative, however, we have to come to terms with the unpalatable truth that culling is a legitimate part of conservation as a result of humans dominance over the environment and once you accept that fact, the only remaining dilemma is whether or not it's okay to let stupid people pay obscene amounts of money to impoverished communities for the privilege of doing something that needs doing anyway.
In the grand scheme of things, if the animals need controlling, I don't really have a problem with people handing over huge gobs of money to get it done.
Course, I'm not saying that's the only sort of hunting that happens and when people just jump in a 4x4 and start plugging away at whatever they see out in the wild, there's no excuse for it at all.
Yeah, by 'before my time' what i really meant was my boyfriend makes jokes about the fat slags which I do not understand, so i am blaming it on age
I agree, sadly it is the only way any large animals at all will be able to survive on on overcrowded planet.
What I really object to is that repulsive little redneck and her attitude.
Well, quite. I just hope that vulture and crocodile don't go posting pictures of their feats on facebook...
That would not be dumb enough!
On my animal intelligence thread I think I have mentioned when animal are taken out of the brutality of the food chain, they can start to relax and show the cognitive abilities that they are capable off but have no time for in the wild.
It is not really a question of lifestyle when you factor in that us going vegetarian over night will be damaging to the environment.
I dont understand why theres such a great need for humans to decide that animals need culling. I will take it that in extreme cases it does need doing so as long as its done as humanely as possible i cant object to it too much.
I just dont see why humans are automatically in the top position when it comes to all this. Why should animals be killed to make room for more humans?
If anything the human race is becoming overpopulated. Would the hunters be willing to become the prey? No they wouldnt.
My objection is to the hunting as a sport mentality. I just dont see why they need to kill a deer, chop off its head and stick it on the wall to get enjoyment.
Tbf I think you can offset the increase in human flatulence caused my a move towards a Quorn based existence against the decrease in farting cows.
Assume that's what you meant.
Ah, so you actually hate coq au vin and steak pie, you eat animals for their own good.
Makes perfect sense!