New Poll puts Yes to Scottish independence on 54%

Hildaonpluto · 13/09/14 - 22:14

Check out @SkyNewsBreak's Tweet: https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/510898834353164289

Admittely one poll but good news for the yes camp.

Rick_Davis · 13/09/14 - 22:15

This is going to be a bitter fight,

smudges dad · 13/09/14 - 22:17

Still too close to call. It will be interesting waking up on Friday morning.

BanglaRoad · 13/09/14 - 22:18

Now the game is on Prepare for more Armageddon scenarios to be unleashed by BT and the Westminster establishment

Discombobulate · 13/09/14 - 22:18

Hildaonpluto wrote: »

Check out @SkyNewsBreak's Tweet: https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/510898834353164289

Admittely one poll but good news for the yes camp.

Yes a poll with a much smaller sample than is usual (700+ versus 1000+).

And as any statistician will tell you the smaller the sample size the greater the risk of error

Hildaonpluto · 13/09/14 - 22:21

Discombobulate wrote: »

Yes a poll with a much smaller sample than is usual (700+ versus 1000+).

And as any statistician will tell you the smaller the sample size the greater the risk of error

Time will tell

Doesnt alter the idea that this poll is noteworthy and worthy of comment:)

mcg3 · 13/09/14 - 22:22

Rick_Davis wrote: »

This is going to be a bitter fight,

Yeah, but bitter by who.

Wonder what dirty tricks the three amigo's will try this time.

Wonder what other big business pals they will lean on to come out with more maybe's what ifs and possibles.

James2001 · 13/09/14 - 22:22

What about the other 3 polls released today which put No in the lead- one of which by 8 points, and another by 6 points, the other by 2 points? Or are they to be ignored because it's inconvenent? I think it's this poll that needs to be questioned, as it's so different to all the other polls released today- and this week for that matter.

Big Boy Barry · 13/09/14 - 22:23

smudges dad wrote: »

Still too close to call. It will be interesting waking up on Friday morning.

If I wake up on Friday morning and it says "SORRY, STILL STUCK WITH THE SCOTS....*SHRUGS*" on BBC NEWS I'll be disappointed.

Rick_Davis · 13/09/14 - 22:24

mcg3 wrote: »

Yeah, but bitter by who.

Wonder what dirty tricks the three amigo's will try this time.

Wonder what other big business pals they will lean on to come out with more maybe's what ifs and possibles.

So it is ok for SNP to roll out Pro Yes business leaders, but its some kind of tinfoil hat conspiracy if others dont agree?

Hildaonpluto · 13/09/14 - 22:25

James2001 wrote: »

What about the other 3 polls released today which put No in the lead- one of which by 8 points, and another by 6 points, the other by 2 points? Or are they to be ignored because it's inconvenent? I think it's this poll that needs to be questioned, as it's so different to all the other polls released today- and this week for that matter.

Of course their not to be ignored-What gave you that idea?

No supporters or whoever can feel free to start a thread on them if they wish.

I think this poll is noteworthyvas I think its the highestvlrad yes has had ie noteworthy:)

Discombobulate · 13/09/14 - 22:26

Hildaonpluto wrote: »

Time will tell

Doesnt alter the idea that this poll is noteworthy and worthy of comment:)

I did comment on it and why it was risky to take it at face value, alas you seem to have ignored that.

Still I hope it is true. How long before an independent Scotland discovers its future is actually based on iron pyrites ?

Hildaonpluto · 13/09/14 - 22:27

Rick_Davis wrote: »

So it is ok for SNP to roll out Pro Yes business leaders, but its some kind of tinfoil hat conspiracy if others dont agree?

Its the scaremongering thats the issue not the fact of no.

Big Boy Barry · 13/09/14 - 22:27

I suspect that 54% really mean YES.........Scottish independence will be a disaster.

Rick_Davis · 13/09/14 - 22:28

Hildaonpluto wrote: »

Its the scaremongering thats the issue not the fact of no.

What scaremongering?

James2001 · 13/09/14 - 22:29

Hildaonpluto wrote: »

Of course their not to be ignored-What gave you that idea?

Because you're jumping up and down shouting about this one poll, and not even aknowledging there were THREE others showing something completely different. Surely you should be questioning why this poll is so different from the others rather than jumping around in excitement?

Hildaonpluto · 13/09/14 - 22:30

Discombobulate wrote: »

I did comment on it and why it was risky to take it at face value, alas you seem to have ignored that.

Still I hope it is true. How long before an independent Scotland discovers its future is actually based on iron pyrites ?

I havent ignored it at all, you mean I havent reacted :)I dont see it as risky,I dont see the poll as gospel but I do see it as noteworthy.Your highlighting a cavet not a substantial riak imo-Afterall it is just a poll!:D

James2001 · 13/09/14 - 22:30

Rick_Davis wrote: »

What scaremongering?

Any facts that go against the Yes campaigns ideas of Utopia are scaremongering!

Rafer · 13/09/14 - 22:32

I get the feeling that thursday's vote isn't going to do much. It seems the electorate is virtually evenly divided. No matter what the outcome is on friday. There's going to be a lot of unhappy people and an unhealthy division.

Rick_Davis · 13/09/14 - 22:33

Rafer wrote: »

I get the feeling that thursday's vote isn't going to do much. It seems the electorate is virtually evenly divided. No matter what the outcome is on friday. There's going to be a lot of unhappy people and an unhealthy division.

This is the very unfortunate outcome.

Hildaonpluto · 13/09/14 - 22:33

James2001 wrote: »

Because you're jumping up and down shouting about this one poll, and not even aknowledging there were THREE others showing something completely different. Surely you should be questioning why this poll is so different from the others rather than jumping around in excitement?

How have you discerned Im jumping up and down?The biggest yes lead in a poll is noteworthy in its own right even if your in the NO camp its noteworthy,

I aint jumping or shouting,everyone on ds politics forum is aware theres other polls out:)

longpiggy · 13/09/14 - 22:33

The " Missing Million" is the big unknown - even to the pollsters that is why they are shit scared at looking like idiots. But they shouldn't because this is a different type of election. Also after 2011 they should have a speck that Scottish opinion polls mean nada.

I am Yes but still think it will be a very, very narrow No. Apart from that unpolled. Then it could be easily 57/43. That is how extreme this could be - and no-one has a clue..That is the truth, however much people shout about it. We won't know till we know.

Hildaonpluto · 13/09/14 - 22:34

James2001 wrote: »

Any facts that go against the Yes campaigns ideas of Utopia are scaremongering!

Which facts?

I dont believe in utopia:)

Hit Em Up Style · 13/09/14 - 22:36

Having read the front page even the newspaper itself is questioning the poll. So even they aren't sure of its findings. Its actually hidden right away mid article. The poll result is not the article itself.

Discombobulate · 13/09/14 - 22:36

Hildaonpluto wrote: »

I havent ignored it at all, you mean I havent reacted :)I dont see it as risky,I dont see the poll as gospel but I do see it as noteworthy.Your highlighting a cavet not a substantial riak imo-Afterall it is just a poll!:D

The caveat I highlighted came from John Curtis who knows more about polls than you or I. Still if you want to dismiss him so lightly it doesn't say much for the depth or reasonableness of your arguments IMO

Hildaonpluto · 13/09/14 - 22:39

Hit Em Up Style wrote: »

Having read the front page even the newspaper itself is questioning the poll. So even they aren't sure of its findings. Its actually hidden right away mid article. The poll result is not the article itself.

I agree but its still noteworthy:)

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