what do you mean bring Finn in first? they brought Finn in long before Robbie, Keith Rice is the 2nd actor playing the character, so it would of been out of character just turn him suddenly into a bully either way.
Well I haven't been watching as long as you have but they did transform Will Savage from a "sensitive caring teenager" into a jealous, twisted killer.
Anyway, they could have just had Robbie purely target JP and not have him lying, stealing and bullying other people. Then Robbie is shocked when he learns what Finn did, apologises to JP and changes his ways.
As far as I'm concerned, either way, his past happened before he found out about the rape so he still has a chance to learn from his past and change. At least he is not evil unlike Finn.
Well I haven't been watching as long as you have but they did transform Will Savage from a "sensitive caring teenager" into a jealous, twisted killer.
Anyway, they could have just had Robbie purely target JP and not have him lying, stealing and bullying other people. Then Robbie is shocked when he learns what Finn did, apologises to JP and changes his ways.
As far as I'm concerned, either way, his past happened before he found out about the rape so he still has a chance to learn from his past and change. At least he is not evil unlike Finn.
yeah but Hollyoaks just seem to change characters personalities to suit storylines.
yeah but Hollyoaks just seem to change characters personalities to suit storylines.
Hollyoaks always does that.
But I personally cannot dislike Robbie purely for his past (a past that happened before he found out Finn raped JP) when after learning of the rape he apologised to JP and would have succeeded in helping him get Finn locked up if Finn hadn't switched the statements, blackmailed him etc and if he does bully Robbie week after next, I can be sorry for Robbie without condoning his past.
But I personally cannot dislike Robbie purely for his past (a past that happened before he found out Finn raped JP) when after learning of the rape he apologised to JP and would have succeeded in helping him get Finn locked up if Finn hadn't switched the statements, blackmailed him etc and if he does bully Robbie week after next, I can be sorry for Robbie without condoning his past.
Robbie just puts a front on and that's why I think its better with finn because he has changef and become evil but because he wanted to look powerful so when robbie found out he was disgusted. I think it's better like this.
Robbie clearly thought what he was doing was harmless banter. Until he realised the true extent of what had happened he has show a different side which I feel does make you feel for him.
As Catepillar123 said Finn has done it because he wants power and control, where as Robbie wasn't bullying for that he clearly was doing it thinking it was fun
Robbie just puts a front on and that's why I think its better with finn because he has changef and become evil but because he wanted to look powerful so when robbie found out he was disgusted. I think it's better like this.
so saying your uncle abused you etc.,is just a front, I don't think so, its cruel and nasty and his influence on Finn has moulded him into what he is now. in my eyes all Robbie is a weak, nasty, pathetic bully.
Robbie clearly thought what he was doing was harmless banter. Until he realised the true extent of what had happened he has show a different side which I feel does make you feel for him.
As Catepillar123 said Finn has done it because he wants power and control, where as Robbie wasn't bullying for that he clearly was doing it thinking it was fun
well he has a weird sense of banter calling someone a coward, and saying he would be a bad dad because Finn didn't want to join in teaching Ambers boyfriend a lesson and calling him gay, that's not harmless banter is just nasty and bullying, not forgetting the horrible homophobic names his called JP.
so saying your uncle abused you etc.,is just a front, I don't think so, its cruel and nasty and his influence on Finn has moulded him into what he is now.
Kids are cruel and that's what Robbie was doing. But no way has Robbie moulded Finn at all. Finn had problems before he even met Robbie. To say someone moulded someone else into being a rapist is ridiculous.
well he has a weird sense of banter calling someone a coward, and saying he would be a bad dad because Finn didn't want to join in teaching Ambers boyfriend a lesson and calling him gay, that's not harmless banter is just nasty and bullying, not forgetting the horrible homophobic names his called JP.
how is it a weird sense of banter. he is still a CHILD. A lot of children and cruel and nasty and bully thinking its fun, then when growing up the feel bad. Just like Robbie.
Kids are cruel and that's what Robbie was doing. But no way has Robbie moulded Finn at all. Finn had problems before he even met Robbie. To say someone moulded someone else into being a rapist is ridiculous.
I didn't say moulded him into a rapist, bullying breeds bullying, Robbie's influence definitely played a part of moulding Finn into a nasty bully, as far as I recall Finn never seemed to hate gays or have a malicious side until he got in with Robbie and then Finn took the bullying too far by choosing to rape JP, and yes that was Finn choice not Robbie's, and also Robbie's bullying and peer pressure on Finn, probably made Finn feel smaller then he already did.
how is it a weird sense of banter. he is still a CHILD. A lot of children and cruel and nasty and bully thinking its fun, then when growing up the feel bad. Just like Robbie.
his 17 his hardly a child, surely at he age he would no its wrong,he just comes across as a nasty bully even after learning about the rape he still is nasty, a child who is nasty and cruel and bullies for fun and will probably grow out of it is someone like Denny out of EE.
how is it a weird sense of banter. he is still a CHILD. A lot of children and cruel and nasty and bully thinking its fun, then when growing up the feel bad. Just like Robbie.
I don't think that is banter, just nasty, verbal bullying.
I didn't say moulded him into a rapist, bullying breeds bullying, Robbie's influence definitely played a part of moulding Finn into a nasty bully, as far as I recall Finn never seemed to hate gays or have a malicious side until he got in with Robbie and then Finn took the bullying too far by choosing to rape JP, and yes that was Finn choice not Robbie's, and also Robbie's bullying and peer pressure on Finn, probably made Finn feel smaller then he already did.
BIB how does it? Kids getting bullied at school, do they go on to bully. no they don't because they GROW UP and go on to lead better lives. Which is clearly what is happening to Robbie as he feels bad, he is growing up and realising that it was wrong.
Finn wants to be a "bad man" and that is all his own doing. Like with Ruby and the coke, that was Finn thinking he is a big man, not Robbie. So Finn wasn't feeling so small then was he. You cant blame one kid for the actions of another. Because that's all they are is kids.
his 17 his hardly a child, surely at he age he would no its wrong,he just comes across as a nasty bully even after learning about the rape he still is nasty, a child who is nasty and cruel and bullies for fun and will probably grow out of it is someone like Denny out of EE.
huh this post doesn't make sense. One point your saying he is not a child, but then your saying he will grow out of it like a child. and your still a child until your 18 in the eyes of the law.
BIB how does it? Kids getting bullied at school, do they go on to bully. no they don't because they GROW UP and go on to lead better lives. Which is clearly what is happening to Robbie as he feels bad, he is growing up and realising that it was wrong.
Finn wants to be a "bad man" and that is all his own doing. Like with Ruby and the coke, that was Finn thinking he is a big man, not Robbie. So Finn wasn't feeling so small then was he. You cant blame one kid for the actions of another. Because that's all they are is kids.
bullying can be a cycle like abuse can be, Finn's actions are his choice, but Robbie did play a part in moulding Finn into what he is. I am not blaming Robbie for Finn actions because they were his choice and Robbie wasn't even aware of the rape, but some people seem to be painting Robbie suddenly being a great person, when his not, his still a nasty homophobic bully.
huh this post doesn't make sense. One point your saying he is not a child, but then your saying he will grow out of it like a child. and your still a child until your 18 in the eyes of the law.
yep but surely at his age he should be maturing, but maybe finding out what Finn did to JP, is slowly making him realise he needs to change
bullying can be a cycle like abuse can be, Finn's actions are his choice, but Robbie did play a part in moulding Finn into what he is. I am not blaming Robbie for Finn actions because they were his choice and Robbie wasn't even aware of the rape, but some people seem to be painting Robbie suddenly being a great person, when his not, his still a nasty homophobic bully.
yea he was when he was being childish. But now he is growing up he knows what he was doing was wrong. No one is painting him as a great person, but as someone who is maturing, growing up and realising right from wrong. That's why he tried to make amends for what happened.
yea he was when he was being childish. But now he is growing up he knows what he was doing was wrong. No one is painting him as a great person, but as someone who is maturing, growing up and realising right from wrong. That's why he tried to make amends for what happened.
he is still is homophobic you don't just change or stop being overnight, he still is nasty , he stopped being vile to JP but he was causing trouble between Jason and Holly and he took Sinead's money knowing she needed that to try and get her daughter back, but I guess it will take time, but I find it hard to believe it took him to this age to start to mature.:D but I guess finding out about what Finn did made JP made him realise he needs to change.
he is still is homophobic you don't just change or stop being overnight, he still is nasty , he stopped being vile to JP but he was causing trouble between Jason and Holly and he took Sinead's money knowing she needed that to try and get her daughter back, but I guess it will take time, but I find it hard to believe it took him to this age to start to mature.:D but I guess finding out about what Finn did made JP made him realise he needs to change.
they do say blokes take longer (my partner is still not fully grown up yet lol)
I think Finn may have always been a bit of a predator because wasn't his dad too, praying on 16yr old girls, and being a head teacher is so wrong.
The reason Robbie made it up about his uncle abusing him is because he wanted to come back home, wrong I know but when you are away from home at that age you want to go back to your loving family and will do anything to get back.
Finn has always had issues when Diane got pregnant he thought she would just forget about him and Sinead. The week the rape happened he accused her of not caring for him like she does the twins or fighting with Sinead. Not that excuses him being a rapist but the difference between Finn and Robbie is that Robbie is not that evil he is just what I call a childish prank type of person and Finn has proven that he really is evil and likes hurting people and gets off on the power of it all.
Robbie knows he is loved and respected by his family but Finn doesn't and that is stupid after all Diane has done for him and Sinead, she has been there for them a lot more than their real parents.
Robbie just puts a front on and that's why I think its better with finn because he has changef and become evil but because he wanted to look powerful so when robbie found out he was disgusted. I think it's better like this.
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Well I haven't been watching as long as you have but they did transform Will Savage from a "sensitive caring teenager" into a jealous, twisted killer.
Anyway, they could have just had Robbie purely target JP and not have him lying, stealing and bullying other people. Then Robbie is shocked when he learns what Finn did, apologises to JP and changes his ways.
As far as I'm concerned, either way, his past happened before he found out about the rape so he still has a chance to learn from his past and change. At least he is not evil unlike Finn.
yeah but Hollyoaks just seem to change characters personalities to suit storylines.
Hollyoaks always does that.
But I personally cannot dislike Robbie purely for his past (a past that happened before he found out Finn raped JP) when after learning of the rape he apologised to JP and would have succeeded in helping him get Finn locked up if Finn hadn't switched the statements, blackmailed him etc and if he does bully Robbie week after next, I can be sorry for Robbie without condoning his past.
yeah but I am not buying it
Oh okay, if you want.
As Catepillar123 said Finn has done it because he wants power and control, where as Robbie wasn't bullying for that he clearly was doing it thinking it was fun
so saying your uncle abused you etc.,is just a front, I don't think so, its cruel and nasty and his influence on Finn has moulded him into what he is now. in my eyes all Robbie is a weak, nasty, pathetic bully.
well he has a weird sense of banter calling someone a coward, and saying he would be a bad dad because Finn didn't want to join in teaching Ambers boyfriend a lesson and calling him gay, that's not harmless banter is just nasty and bullying, not forgetting the horrible homophobic names his called JP.
Kids are cruel and that's what Robbie was doing. But no way has Robbie moulded Finn at all. Finn had problems before he even met Robbie. To say someone moulded someone else into being a rapist is ridiculous.
how is it a weird sense of banter. he is still a CHILD. A lot of children and cruel and nasty and bully thinking its fun, then when growing up the feel bad. Just like Robbie.
I didn't say moulded him into a rapist, bullying breeds bullying, Robbie's influence definitely played a part of moulding Finn into a nasty bully, as far as I recall Finn never seemed to hate gays or have a malicious side until he got in with Robbie and then Finn took the bullying too far by choosing to rape JP, and yes that was Finn choice not Robbie's, and also Robbie's bullying and peer pressure on Finn, probably made Finn feel smaller then he already did.
his 17 his hardly a child, surely at he age he would no its wrong,he just comes across as a nasty bully even after learning about the rape he still is nasty, a child who is nasty and cruel and bullies for fun and will probably grow out of it is someone like Denny out of EE.
I don't think that is banter, just nasty, verbal bullying.
BIB how does it? Kids getting bullied at school, do they go on to bully. no they don't because they GROW UP and go on to lead better lives. Which is clearly what is happening to Robbie as he feels bad, he is growing up and realising that it was wrong.
Finn wants to be a "bad man" and that is all his own doing. Like with Ruby and the coke, that was Finn thinking he is a big man, not Robbie. So Finn wasn't feeling so small then was he. You cant blame one kid for the actions of another. Because that's all they are is kids.
huh this post doesn't make sense. One point your saying he is not a child, but then your saying he will grow out of it like a child. and your still a child until your 18 in the eyes of the law.
bullying can be a cycle like abuse can be, Finn's actions are his choice, but Robbie did play a part in moulding Finn into what he is. I am not blaming Robbie for Finn actions because they were his choice and Robbie wasn't even aware of the rape, but some people seem to be painting Robbie suddenly being a great person, when his not, his still a nasty homophobic bully.
yep but surely at his age he should be maturing, but maybe finding out what Finn did to JP, is slowly making him realise he needs to change
yea he was when he was being childish. But now he is growing up he knows what he was doing was wrong. No one is painting him as a great person, but as someone who is maturing, growing up and realising right from wrong. That's why he tried to make amends for what happened.
he is still is homophobic you don't just change or stop being overnight, he still is nasty , he stopped being vile to JP but he was causing trouble between Jason and Holly and he took Sinead's money knowing she needed that to try and get her daughter back, but I guess it will take time, but I find it hard to believe it took him to this age to start to mature.:D but I guess finding out about what Finn did made JP made him realise he needs to change.
they do say blokes take longer (my partner is still not fully grown up yet lol)
I think Finn may have always been a bit of a predator because wasn't his dad too, praying on 16yr old girls, and being a head teacher is so wrong.
Finn has always had issues when Diane got pregnant he thought she would just forget about him and Sinead. The week the rape happened he accused her of not caring for him like she does the twins or fighting with Sinead. Not that excuses him being a rapist but the difference between Finn and Robbie is that Robbie is not that evil he is just what I call a childish prank type of person and Finn has proven that he really is evil and likes hurting people and gets off on the power of it all.
Robbie knows he is loved and respected by his family but Finn doesn't and that is stupid after all Diane has done for him and Sinead, she has been there for them a lot more than their real parents.
Thanks Catepillar.