Heres why you cant see things objectively, such as dissing Vista thoug you never used it. :rolleyes:
I have used Vista, not on any of my own computers but on friends' machines, and I really did find it awful. I also used it at school for the last year and a half I was there.
Windows Me simply one of the worst ever produced.
Windows 8 I simply can not get on with this , been on the preview version for sometime now and I simply hate it, it has no place on my desktop pc .
Norton antiviris - system hogger and unreliable
AVG Free, used to be brilliant now utter crap
All toolbar add ons - never seen the point of them
Samsung keys - unstable and never actualy connects to my phone
Linksys firmware - never update your router coz 99% of the time you will have issues after.
Oi! I'm a Mac user and wear leopard print I tend to wear the "snow" leopard style as I have a Macbook Pro running that version of Mac OSX (Windows users - all Mac OSX versions are named after big cats, current one is Mountain Lion).
I'm glad I'm not the only one finding Finder a bit of a challenge compared to what I'm used to. Has anyone tried Path Finder? Is it worth the money?
I find Finder a disgrace of an implementation on an OS people say they are proud of, yet they cant even see what the issues are with it. Its like they've never used a proper file manager before.
I've said on here many times before my issues with Finder, theres no point reiterating it.
iTunes - the biggest piece of system resource hogging crap I've ever come across. Operation is clunky and horrible. If it wasn't for my iPhone i would never have it on my PC.
Any piece of software which has the box ticked by default to install additional junkware (ie. Google Chrome, toolbars etc) onto an unsuspecting person's PC.
Office 2007/2010. I'm no fan of the ribbon "my first office" interface - am often wondering where the f*ck they've placed certain things, when they were clearly in menus before.
Adobe Acrobat reader, Jesus what a piece of bloated bug ridden shite just to read a pdf file.
It was developed during the same era as Word, when lots of software became a bloated mess because it was marketed on features (often features that few people really needed) rather than usability, performance or amount of bugs.
Also 'Nero burning ROM' which started as a simple lightweight CD burning program. But every version has added more and more bloatware to justify the upgrade. Even the 'Lite' version is bloated.
Be very grateful if you haven't! I remember going on a course at ICL years ago and the tutor told us he had yet to meet anyone who liked it.
wut? You've never met any who likes vi?
I _LOVE_ vim. Once you learn how to use a modal text editor you will never go back. I even have an extension installed for Chrome that allows me to navigate like I would with vi(m). I have plugins for every editor I use on a regular basis to give me vi like navigation/editing.
Btw, I'm well aware vim isn't strictly vi but not many people don't use the extras vim offers and wouldn't notice the move massively unless you really depend on extensions.
I _LOVE_ vim. Once you learn how to use a modal text editor you will never go back. I even have an extension installed for Chrome that allows me to navigate like I would with vi(m). I have plugins for every editor I use on a regular basis to give me vi like navigation/editing.
Btw, I'm well aware vim isn't strictly vi but not many people don't use the extras vim offers and wouldn't notice the move massively unless you really depend on extensions.
I have used it but switching modes always seemed very messy and made using it a real pain. I'm not sure when wysiwyg editors became available on UNIX.
I did some work on ICL mainframes years ago. The SD and SCEF editors on VME weren't too bad, the worst was the "line editor" on 1900 / George 3, what a bloody nightmare that was..
OSX - just don't like the feel/behaviour of OSX
Windows XP - a really horrible looking tonka toy
Programs it would be
Firefox
Adobe pdf reader
itunes - so clunky
the drivers/programs that came with my HP 3210 printer -- its there on the network it has an ip address why won't you work damit.. reinstall etc
windows gadgets
I liked vista.. so it was a bit of a resource hog here and there but made windows look so much nicer compared to how XP looked and worked, at least no wagging dog when you had to find something
I used vi as my main editor for my first 5 years as a programmer on Unix systems. That was back when I did C++ and C development. It used to take forever to get even the simplest thing up and running reliably. C/C++ and Make were horrible. No wonder there used to be such a high attrition rate amongst programmers, that set up was enough to turn anyone to the dark side that is management.
After writing my first application in Java using an IDE with proper syntax highlighting in a fraction of the time (bear in mind, this was a new language with new tools and on Windows NT - all things I hadn't used before at the time) that it would have taken with my old setup, I decided I'd never use those languages again. I eventually forgave C, but me and C++ will never speak again.
I still use vi though. It's fine for editing the odd config file or script. Plus you can find it on any version of Unix or Linux. I do always check if Nano or Gedit are installed first though . I also tried to learn emacs, but it just gave me a headache. My favourite editors at the moment are Sublime 2 and Notepad++.
Backup Exec - so slow at backing up and shocking tape handling and management. Not to mention the millions of license codes you had to enter in by hand, or the index which corrupted if you sneezed at it meaning millions of error boxes needed clearing. May have improved since I last used it. Better well have!
Dell OpenManage. Half the features just don't work.
"Enterprise" software. Seems to be an excuse for horrendous license management, bad installation procedures and requiring admin rights to run.
Microsoft admin tools. Serious lacking in usability and speed. Stinks to high heaven of laziness and an attitude of oh well only sys admins using it, sod if it has a few millions bugs in it and the speed of a glacier. Is it my or are they getting worse with every new release?
Be very grateful if you haven't! I remember going on a course at ICL years ago and the tutor told us he had yet to meet anyone who liked it.
He clearly hadn't met many proper programmers.
Vi is superb, and hugely powerful. Of course, this means that your first attempts at using it will often generate an approximation to random noise. Gotta climb that learning curve! I still use versions on Windows and on Linux. I might look for one for Android!
"Some of the concepts in these Xerox editors have been incorporated into editors running on more reasonably named operating systems-- EMACS and VI being two. The problem with these editors is that Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in Women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor-- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. TECO, to be precise. It has been observed that a TECO command sequence more closely resembles transmission line noise than readable text[4]. One of the more entertaining games to play with TECO is to type your name in as a command line and try to guess what it does. Just about any possible typing error while talking with TECO will probably destroy your program, or even worse-- introduce subtle and mysterious bugs in a once working subroutine."
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Heres why you cant see things objectively, such as dissing Vista thoug you never used it. :rolleyes:
I have used Vista, not on any of my own computers but on friends' machines, and I really did find it awful. I also used it at school for the last year and a half I was there.
Windows 8 I simply can not get on with this , been on the preview version for sometime now and I simply hate it, it has no place on my desktop pc .
Norton antiviris - system hogger and unreliable
AVG Free, used to be brilliant now utter crap
All toolbar add ons - never seen the point of them
Samsung keys - unstable and never actualy connects to my phone
Linksys firmware - never update your router coz 99% of the time you will have issues after.
I could carry on but i'm bored now
Actually no, I DO mean tortoises.
Indeed, how about when people are talking about pants as shown here:
I find Finder a disgrace of an implementation on an OS people say they are proud of, yet they cant even see what the issues are with it. Its like they've never used a proper file manager before.
I've said on here many times before my issues with Finder, theres no point reiterating it.
Any piece of software which has the box ticked by default to install additional junkware (ie. Google Chrome, toolbars etc) onto an unsuspecting person's PC.
Office 2007/2010. I'm no fan of the ribbon "my first office" interface - am often wondering where the f*ck they've placed certain things, when they were clearly in menus before.
It was developed during the same era as Word, when lots of software became a bloated mess because it was marketed on features (often features that few people really needed) rather than usability, performance or amount of bugs.
But the tortoise would sink to the bottom of the treacle and drown. That's just plain cruel. :eek:
The quicker this bloaty piece of banner drivel is gone the better.
Rubbish
When the screensaver came up if you were listening to something, the sound always got cut off.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi
Be very grateful if you haven't! I remember going on a course at ICL years ago and the tutor told us he had yet to meet anyone who liked it.
I also remember a couple of people who had a lot headaches with a UNIX utility called "awk".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awk
I _LOVE_ vim. Once you learn how to use a modal text editor you will never go back. I even have an extension installed for Chrome that allows me to navigate like I would with vi(m). I have plugins for every editor I use on a regular basis to give me vi like navigation/editing.
Btw, I'm well aware vim isn't strictly vi but not many people don't use the extras vim offers and wouldn't notice the move massively unless you really depend on extensions.
I have used it but switching modes always seemed very messy and made using it a real pain. I'm not sure when wysiwyg editors became available on UNIX.
I did some work on ICL mainframes years ago. The SD and SCEF editors on VME weren't too bad, the worst was the "line editor" on 1900 / George 3, what a bloody nightmare that was..
Windows XP - a really horrible looking tonka toy
Programs it would be
Firefox
Adobe pdf reader
itunes - so clunky
the drivers/programs that came with my HP 3210 printer -- its there on the network it has an ip address why won't you work damit.. reinstall etc
windows gadgets
I liked vista.. so it was a bit of a resource hog here and there but made windows look so much nicer compared to how XP looked and worked, at least no wagging dog when you had to find something
Ah, someone else who has to suffer this abomination. I've had to use various versions since 2002 and I still can't stand it.
I used vi as my main editor for my first 5 years as a programmer on Unix systems. That was back when I did C++ and C development. It used to take forever to get even the simplest thing up and running reliably. C/C++ and Make were horrible. No wonder there used to be such a high attrition rate amongst programmers, that set up was enough to turn anyone to the dark side that is management.
After writing my first application in Java using an IDE with proper syntax highlighting in a fraction of the time (bear in mind, this was a new language with new tools and on Windows NT - all things I hadn't used before at the time) that it would have taken with my old setup, I decided I'd never use those languages again. I eventually forgave C, but me and C++ will never speak again.
I still use vi though. It's fine for editing the odd config file or script. Plus you can find it on any version of Unix or Linux. I do always check if Nano or Gedit are installed first though
Dell OpenManage. Half the features just don't work.
"Enterprise" software. Seems to be an excuse for horrendous license management, bad installation procedures and requiring admin rights to run.
Microsoft admin tools. Serious lacking in usability and speed. Stinks to high heaven of laziness and an attitude of oh well only sys admins using it, sod if it has a few millions bugs in it and the speed of a glacier. Is it my or are they getting worse with every new release?
He clearly hadn't met many proper programmers.
Vi is superb, and hugely powerful. Of course, this means that your first attempts at using it will often generate an approximation to random noise. Gotta climb that learning curve! I still use versions on Windows and on Linux. I might look for one for Android!
Some people think even vi is for wimps, and that you should really be using TECO:
"Some of the concepts in these Xerox editors have been incorporated into editors running on more reasonably named operating systems-- EMACS and VI being two. The problem with these editors is that Real Programmers consider "what you see is what you get" to be just as bad a concept in Text Editors as it is in Women. No, the Real Programmer wants a "you asked for it, you got it" text editor-- complicated, cryptic, powerful, unforgiving, dangerous. TECO, to be precise. It has been observed that a TECO command sequence more closely resembles transmission line noise than readable text[4]. One of the more entertaining games to play with TECO is to type your name in as a command line and try to guess what it does. Just about any possible typing error while talking with TECO will probably destroy your program, or even worse-- introduce subtle and mysterious bugs in a once working subroutine." Another supremely powerful utility, dangerous in the wrong hands.