Buying porn with credit cards to be banned

AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
Forum Member
✭✭✭
Yes, really.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/10322072/Banks-to-block-internet-porn-sites.html
http://www.digitaltveurope.net/104142/atvod-rules-against-porn-sites-calls-for-changes-to-payment-rules/
http://www.zdnet.com/banks-to-block-foreign-websites-in-uk-anti-porn-internet-crusade-7000020936/

Atvod, the regulator of video on demand, is drawing up plans that will ban credit card providers from transactions on porn sites that are not licenced in the UK. Basically, that's most of the porn on the internet.

This was actually announced around the same time as the porn filter, but didn't get that much attention and seemed ludicrous enough to be unceremoniously dropped. However, it appears Atvod really are trying to go through with it.

Looks like bitcoin just found a new post-Silk Road use.
«134

Comments

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 32,379
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Why the hell would anyone buy porn. So much free on the internet.
  • NX-74205NX-74205 Posts: 4,691
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    woodbush wrote: »
    Why the hell would anyone buy porn. So much free on the internet.

    This! A million times, this!
  • MudboxMudbox Posts: 10,110
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    woodbush wrote: »
    Why the hell would anyone buy porn. So much free on the internet.

    People who want to watch a lot of tentacle porn?:p

    I think there are specialised genre like that that there isn't much of free...maybe...I wouldn't know..:p
  • jrajra Posts: 48,325
    Forum Member
    Aneechik wrote: »
    Atvod, the regulator of video on demand, is drawing up plans that will ban credit card providers from transactions on porn sites that are not licenced in the UK. Basically, that's most of the porn on the internet.

    Did I just read that. If you want to see porn, however graphic, it's an easy find, FOC. You name it, you can see it.

    And as if anybody buys porn these days. Porn is never more than three clicks away and is easier to find than your own genitalia.
  • MudboxMudbox Posts: 10,110
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    the day you can google your own genitals will certainly be a strange world. :D

    but I suppose it is true for porn actors, so maybe it already is a strange world for them
  • MudboxMudbox Posts: 10,110
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    maybe Cameron's idea is that if a site isn't getting any revenue from the UK, then they make block the UK, even for the free stuff....?
  • MudboxMudbox Posts: 10,110
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Porn Wars?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 485
    Forum Member
    Why are they trying to ban something else that people clearly want?

    What is wrong with politicians
  • jrajra Posts: 48,325
    Forum Member
    Mudbox wrote: »
    the day you can google your own genitals will certainly be a strange world. :D

    but I suppose it is true for porn actors, so maybe it already is a strange world for them

    Yes. And dad may see their own daughter doing stuff. That will no doubt be an awkward moment.
    What is wrong with politicians

    Well everything really.
  • Baz OBaz O Posts: 1,642
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    jra wrote: »
    Did I just read that. If you want to see porn, however graphic, it's an easy find, FOC. You name it, you can see it.

    And as if anybody buys porn these days. Porn is never more than three clicks away and is easier to find than your own genitalia.

    I am surprised you watch it seeing you have a much younger girlfriend :)

    As I have said before I find it boring so no need for me to click 3 times.
  • juliancarswelljuliancarswell Posts: 8,896
    Forum Member
    In life, you get nothing for nothing.
    From the (admittedly not massive amount) free, ubiquitous porn I have seen there is hardly any adverts at all. So who pays for it or how does it get paid for.
    I would worry that they are giving it away free to get you on their site while the load Trojans of some sort onto your computer.
    But then I am paranoid.:eek:
  • MudboxMudbox Posts: 10,110
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    a lot of the free videos have the web address of another porn site at the bottom of the video. I presume that that would be a pay site, and that it is basically a freebie that advertises the paysite, for which they pay the site that hosts the freebie.
  • davidmcndavidmcn Posts: 12,108
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Mudbox wrote: »
    a lot of the free videos have the web address of another porn site at the bottom of the video. I presume that that would be a pay site, and that it is basically a freebie that advertises the paysite, for which they pay the site that hosts the freebie.

    Or an indication of where the "freebie" site has stolen the material from.
  • SambdaSambda Posts: 6,207
    Forum Member
    Another pointless waste of time:

    1) Most porn is hosted overseas, especially the harder stuff.

    2) Most porn sites do not take CC payments directly - for simplicity they use a general third-party payment service (again, nothing to do with the UK).

    3) Even the ones which process their own payments take PayPal.


    I smell Cameron leaning on somebody at this atvod lot.
  • BillyCasperBillyCasper Posts: 1,421
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    jra wrote: »
    Did I just read that. If you want to see porn, however graphic, it's an easy find, FOC. You name it, you can see it.

    And as if anybody buys porn these days. Porn is never more than three clicks away and is easier to find than your own genitalia.

    Google Crotch Watch?
  • Tavis75Tavis75 Posts: 593
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    OK, so to protect children the government is planning to block access to sites that currently require a credit card to access, which obviously won't affect free sites that have no credit card requirements.

    So, they'll only be protecting the children with credit cards (who choose not to use free sites), which considering you need to be 18 to have one means they'll be "protecting" exactly 0 children.

    I see no flaw whatsoever in that logic...
  • bluesdiamondbluesdiamond Posts: 11,360
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Reading the articles it seems they are saying IF a comapny like Playboy has free content it has to be very mild images (page3-esq?). If it has porn and no filters they will get a ban on payments from UK banks.

    Seems it is a crackdown on the 'free stuff'. However with file sharing type programmes the Playboys will need to 'police' who is using clips from their videos.

    So those Models who have their own sites could be facing a headache
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,182
    Forum Member
    If you're buying porn and have internet access, then life has failed you.
  • Baz OBaz O Posts: 1,642
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Would anybodies life be over if they couldn't view porn on the net? Erm No ... I can understand that some of you guys think its your human right to view what you want to without the Government acting like Big Brother. I am sure you are clever enough to find a way round it so you can get your daily fix. I'm not trying to belittle anyone because I don't judge people btw.
  • Tavis75Tavis75 Posts: 593
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Baz O wrote: »
    Would anybodies life be over if they couldn't view porn on the net? Erm No ... I can understand that some of you guys think its your human right to view what you want to without the Government acting like Big Brother. I am sure you are clever enough to find a way round it so you can get your daily fix. I'm not trying to belittle anyone because I don't judge people btw.

    It's more the stupidity of the proposals that annoys me and the claims that it is purely "to protect children" when it clearly will do an incredibly poor job of that while having a dramatic effect on what adults can do. I'm basically just insulted that they think people would be stupid enough to fall for the protecting children line!

    edit - Basically, it sounds like they will be attempting to block access to any pay-sites outside of the EU completely and then legislate against\sanction any sites in the EU that don't follow whatever rules they decide to lay down.
  • JasonJason Posts: 76,557
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    One quote from the ZDNet article ..
    But setting banking and crediting practices - giving banks control over content and information - based on arbitrary applications of morality is a dangerous game.

    Couldn't agree more with this. The morality of a small minority is driving this current "crusade" to pretty much kill off the "open" aspect of the internet in this country.
  • Pull2OpenPull2Open Posts: 15,138
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    One quote from the ZDNet article ..



    Couldn't agree more with this. The morality of a small minority is driving this current "crusade" to pretty much kill off the "open" aspect of the internet in this country.

    Someone has to think of the children, surely!
  • Funk YouFunk You Posts: 6,864
    Forum Member
    I know someone who buys from websites because it caters for his fetish and no other site really does it. At least the person who made the videos gets paid instead of making the video then it getting pirated all round the free sites and torrents
  • VoynichVoynich Posts: 14,481
    Forum Member
    ✭✭
    Good. It's been a while since something or other as been banned. I was getting worried.
  • Baz OBaz O Posts: 1,642
    Forum Member
    ✭✭✭
    Tavis75 wrote: »
    It's more the stupidity of the proposals that annoys me and the claims that it is purely "to protect children" when it clearly will do an incredibly poor job of that while having a dramatic effect on what adults can do. I'm basically just insulted that they think people would be stupid enough to fall for the protecting children line!

    edit - Basically, it sounds like they will be attempting to block access to any pay-sites outside of the EU completely and then legislate against\sanction any sites in the EU that don't follow whatever rules they decide to lay down.

    So you think they are trying to stop adults from viewing certain types of porn? I find that hard to believe tbh I have not viewed a lot of porn myself because as a woman I am not that interested. I do wonder why some men have to hide it from their partners etc. We have always been open in my family about such stuff.
Sign In or Register to comment.