Soaps Moral Code no longer relevant?
I am fed up of bad boys and bad girls always having to have an comeuppance.
Tracey Barlow is currently the only woman to seemingly get away with her murder crime despite her brief sentence.
I am loving Declan and Charity Macey's wrong doings and don't see why they should be caught at all... Carl King is a shining example of a brilliant character with stamina left in them.
Tracey Barlow is currently the only woman to seemingly get away with her murder crime despite her brief sentence.
I am loving Declan and Charity Macey's wrong doings and don't see why they should be caught at all... Carl King is a shining example of a brilliant character with stamina left in them.
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Grace in Hollyoaks...
Cameron killed Carl King yonks ago!
Barry Grant murdered a baby, yes a baby! and never answered for his crime. Instead he some how managed to remain as one of Brookside's most popular characters.
Its similar for Janine Butcher. She has killed 2 men and almost killed 2 more. Apart from a few short spells in prison she has never answered for her crimes and remains one of the EastEnders most popular characters because of it.
That, in soap terms, is disgraceful. (At least for EE).
Disagree. At least with female characters EE always used to have women ambiguously kill so the viewer could never concretely say it was murder. Ever since Stacey cold bloodedly killed and paid no price, that ambiguity has lessoned.
Case in point being Sienna in Hollyoaks, during her story last year she did some detestable things but because the actress and character is popular they have found ways to keep her out of jail and in the village
Because he was a legend, something the writers of EE could learn a thing or two from.
Grace Black will eventually be killed off or sent to prison in my opinion, she is no Clare Devine!
Janine Butcher has at least been to prison for periods of time but yes I agree... I don't think she will ever pay for...
Killing Barry Evans
Killing Michael Moon
Killing Danielle Jones (accident I know but she was vile to Ronnie Mitchell afterwards)
Alice Branning attempting to kill herself because of Janine's lies.
But he was written out due to someone's ego rather then because the character had no where to go. The writers preferred Cain Dingle then to develop Carl as the best bad lad in the village.
I never understood this but why didn't viewers be in uproar like they were when Ronnie stole Tommy Moon?
I believe Sienna Blake has a shelf life so I wouldn't count on her not being killed off or imprisoned just yet!
And a rather yummy legend at that - my first soap crush
I agree and I know I'm not the only person who is still annoyed he was killed off. I wish they'd kept his son Thomas long term too - they got rid of him just as he was starting to develop.
Carl and Chas Dingles final scene was stupid!
Learn a thing or two how exactly? EE has plenty of its own legends who are cemented into British popular culture.
Possibly because he was good looking.
Never heard of him... Can't be much of a legend.
Why don't you pop in your TARDIS then, you might learn something.
You say Brookside and he is one character that certainly pops up in my head hence his return to the last ever episode. He made Phil Mitchell look like a school bully!
I reserve my tardis trips for stalking important figures and going to cultural events; not to check up on the name of a has-being fictional character in a bygone soap. Ta.
This is true and Stacey killing Archie never sat right with me. Ronnie did kill Carl in a moment of anger but he was threatening rape so it could be argued it was self defence. Ronnie was mortified by killing Carl but then snapped out of it and disposed of his body in a manner that would blow any self defence case out of the water. It was similar with Chrissie. She never intended to kill Den. It was her actions after that put what she did in doubt.
Just because you've never heard of him doesn't mean that he's not much of a legend.
Meh. Like much of the GBP I never watched British soaps prior to EE; and in the early 80s, again like much of the GBP I was enthralled by the antics of alexis morell carrigton colby dexter rowan next to whom phil Mitchell or any petty British thug is pretty insignificant.
It casts doubt though... That's the point of being legendary. The fact also that I know my fair share of British soap legends also questions applying that title to the character under discussion.
It's possible he simply slipped past my radar... It's also possible he is not that legendary.
Exactly. Even Janine's "murders" are ambiguous - the whole falling/being pushed; Michael and her "deliberately" picking up the tea-towel. Even when cindy hired the hit man they had her reneg on the action just before it happened and try and save Ian (iirc). Always there was room for debate. But with Stacey there was no doubt and yet of all EE female "killers" she's the bloody one who got of the easiest. Chrissie, Ronnie, and janine all committed manslaughter. Only Stacey commuted murder. Yet they all faced justice (there is little doubt IMO that Ronnie will eventually face some kind of justice for it); Stacey never well. She'll get 6 months (or however long her break is) that is not justice for murder.
Still annoys me. ( I agree though that Stacey being the killer wasn't right and in part for this reason. Alas she was made the killer and should be punished accordingly).
With men it's a different ethic. But even here, save for nix cotton, the writers do try and paint the act in shades of grey. Phil not knowing about the tramp; Steve Owen acting (a bit like Chrissie) in a fit of pique (in fact the more I think about Steve Owen and Chrissie watts were very similar in the way they reacted short term and long term). Then jake shooting his brother to save grant, etc.
EE usually doesn't do black and white murderers. Usually.
Prior to EE, half the population tuned into Coronation Street. And when Barry was in his prime the show itself regularly attracted 8 million viewers.