Strictly speaking I'm Doctor Rascal, but I'm not going to get arsey about being referred to as Mr or by my name.
Do you seriously know anyone who would? Of all the people I know with doctorates, none give a shit about being referred to as Dr or Mr informally, although sometimes they can look at it different in a professional context, but again this is the exception rather than the rule IME.
The bottom line is that there is no law that forces you to address anyone as anything. Not even the Queen.
All that happens is that you are pressurised into conforming to what they see as correct.
If I were to meet the Queen I would address her as Mrs Windsor as that is her name. (Well her name now that her predecessors changed it from the German one they had)
If someone has a title and you insist on not calling them it just to score a point (which most people wouldn't give a toss about) it just makes you a bit of an arse IMO.
If someone has a title and you insist on not calling them it just to score a point (which most people wouldn't give a toss about) it just makes you a bit of an arse IMO.
It's just your basic good manners.
Exactly. The plastic class warriors on DS are a constant source of amusement.
If someone has a title and you insist on not calling them it just to score a point (which most people wouldn't give a toss about) it just makes you a bit of an arse IMO.
It's just your basic good manners.
No it's all a hang-over from the class system of old and people like you post that it's good manners to keep people inline with that.
The arse is the person who insists on being addressed by a title they have. No one else.
As has been said, it's just good manners to address someone you don't know by their title, whatever it is. If you don't you're just showing yourself up as an ignoramus who doesn't know any better.
They'll tell you if they want you to use their first name or nickname - like Mr. Mustard, who invites people to call him Musty.
I do not have a problem calling anyone by their title be it Rev, Dr, Sir, Lady, Mr or Mrs.
I just do not like people that demand you do and get all snooty over it. I find they come across as too self important.
Fotunately it has only ever been an issue once. I have a customer who is a "Lady" and she is a cracking old gal.
I this kinda covers it for me.
In the same way I don't usually shorten people's names, even if it's what they're used to, kinda depends on the relationship I've got with them.
I wouldn't call a Doctor by their first name, if I met them at their place of work, just a bit of distance/respect.
I must say it used to give me the pip, when we'd get tech support letters/emails with all the various titles BA Hons, etc, etc.
Slight inkling they're trying to 'Lord it' when it's not required or helpful.
If you're been paid to do it and they're a bit snooty about it, bite your tongue and do it or try a workaround, address the group their with instead of the individual if possible.
Then again, I'm well out of customer facing roles now and would never go back if I can avoid it.
I've got a knack of rubbing people up the wrong way, even when I'm not trying...
............. I used to work with a bloke whose dad was a baronet and he was dreading the day that his dad died and he would be "Sir Anthony" (he was also mortified that we found out, lol)..................
I can't help wondering how you found out about it. Surely it's an easy thing to keep secret.
And if he's dreading it so much, he could always relinquish the title. Though he may have to wait until he inherits it first.
I can't help wondering how you found out about it. Surely it's an easy thing to keep secret.
And if he's dreading it so much, he could always relinquish the title. Though he may have to wait until he inherits it first.
I suppose it depends how guarded you want to be at work doesn't it?
Where'd you go to School, College, what your parents, family do, family get togethers, etc.
All sorts of things come out in conversation or not depending on how guarded you want to be.
The number of people who knew my Sister had a Daughter at work over 20+ years and various companies can't have come to double figures.
When my Niece got married only 2 people at her work knew.
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This.
Have you ever said "Trust me....."
My pal has just got her doctorate, it's in wildlife, flora and fauna something or other....I put it on everything texts to "DR S"...lol!
You should be proud!
(Dr Fizzzzzeeee)
In the course of my work, I once had to speak with a vicar, whom I addressed as Mr. He corrected me, saying "It's Reverend actually".
He was engaged in persuading others to provide a bed for the night for a homeless person, and I believe he had a kind of day centre for the homeless.
I wasn't impressed by his humility.
Do you seriously know anyone who would? Of all the people I know with doctorates, none give a shit about being referred to as Dr or Mr informally, although sometimes they can look at it different in a professional context, but again this is the exception rather than the rule IME.
Dave
Bit of a pedant!
I find "The Honourable Member" a bit hard to take with a straight face....
*sniggers*
All that happens is that you are pressurised into conforming to what they see as correct.
If I were to meet the Queen I would address her as Mrs Windsor as that is her name. (Well her name now that her predecessors changed it from the German one they had)
It's just your basic good manners.
So what would you prefer?
and some are pricks.. and arrogant ones at that..
I did it because I had to but I begrudged it as he was a pompous old git.
Exactly. The plastic class warriors on DS are a constant source of amusement.
No it's all a hang-over from the class system of old and people like you post that it's good manners to keep people inline with that.
The arse is the person who insists on being addressed by a title they have. No one else.
Inverted snobbery.
Such a classless thing to have.
And by 'people like me' I assume you mean people with manner.
Yep. Happy to be me thanks.
I can well imagine it...Not the nice person you think!
I do not have a problem calling anyone by their title be it Rev, Dr, Sir, Lady, Mr or Mrs.
I just do not like people that demand you do and get all snooty over it. I find they come across as too self important.
Fotunately it has only ever been an issue once. I have a customer who is a "Lady" and she is a cracking old gal.
They get no respect off me, If I meet The Queen , I would not call her - you Majesty it be Elizabeth or Lizzie
They'll tell you if they want you to use their first name or nickname - like Mr. Mustard, who invites people to call him Musty.
Ah Ricky. Still 'sticking it to the Man' eh?:p
I this kinda covers it for me.
In the same way I don't usually shorten people's names, even if it's what they're used to, kinda depends on the relationship I've got with them.
I wouldn't call a Doctor by their first name, if I met them at their place of work, just a bit of distance/respect.
I must say it used to give me the pip, when we'd get tech support letters/emails with all the various titles BA Hons, etc, etc.
Slight inkling they're trying to 'Lord it' when it's not required or helpful.
If you're been paid to do it and they're a bit snooty about it, bite your tongue and do it or try a workaround, address the group their with instead of the individual if possible.
Then again, I'm well out of customer facing roles now and would never go back if I can avoid it.
I've got a knack of rubbing people up the wrong way, even when I'm not trying...
I can't help wondering how you found out about it. Surely it's an easy thing to keep secret.
And if he's dreading it so much, he could always relinquish the title. Though he may have to wait until he inherits it first.
No need for the title at all in shops 'hello or excuse me...' works fine for me.
I suppose it depends how guarded you want to be at work doesn't it?
Where'd you go to School, College, what your parents, family do, family get togethers, etc.
All sorts of things come out in conversation or not depending on how guarded you want to be.
The number of people who knew my Sister had a Daughter at work over 20+ years and various companies can't have come to double figures.
When my Niece got married only 2 people at her work knew.