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New fan made Doctor Who intro - BANNED BY THE BBC!!
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Some of you may have seen the progress of, and end result of my Doctor Who title sequence finished a few days ago, which took just over 40 days to complete, polish of and release on youtube.
Well, 4 days on, today, the BBC filed a copyright claim over my visual material created from scratch, and as such the video was pulled a few hours ago.
I've re-uploaded it for the time being, pending hearing back from the Youtube DMCA notice which takes around 10 days, and unless the BBC formally decide to sue me, the original video will be reinstated.
Here is the link to the temp upload, you might see that some fans are already venting on there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCF6LrE4OQo
Here is the i-petition that's been set up if any one feels inclined to make a comment:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/we-protest-at-the-bbc-claiming-ownership-of
Do the BBC Own copyright to Doctor Who? Of course they do. Do they own the copyright to the theme music I modified? Yes, they do.
Was making the choice to claim ownership of a fan's derivative work designed to spark debate in the community as to the quality of the current Peter Anderson Studios intro sequence the right one?
Legally, probably. Morally? Well, you decide.
40 days of work went into the sequence, with regular updates posted to my youtube fanbase, and when the finished result went up 3-4 days ago the viewcount shot up 25,000 in just a couple of days.
Is this really the best way to be nurturing emerging "talent", by destroying labors of love created for the enjoyment of others? Why me? Why not the 1000's of other youtube up-loaders who DO post the original title sequence, whole bloody episodes in some cases?!
Yet after just 3 days of being live, an attempt has been made to destroy my work, which in itself is actually just serving to give more publicity.
Your thoughts?
Well, 4 days on, today, the BBC filed a copyright claim over my visual material created from scratch, and as such the video was pulled a few hours ago.
I've re-uploaded it for the time being, pending hearing back from the Youtube DMCA notice which takes around 10 days, and unless the BBC formally decide to sue me, the original video will be reinstated.
Here is the link to the temp upload, you might see that some fans are already venting on there:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCF6LrE4OQo
Here is the i-petition that's been set up if any one feels inclined to make a comment:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/we-protest-at-the-bbc-claiming-ownership-of
Do the BBC Own copyright to Doctor Who? Of course they do. Do they own the copyright to the theme music I modified? Yes, they do.
Was making the choice to claim ownership of a fan's derivative work designed to spark debate in the community as to the quality of the current Peter Anderson Studios intro sequence the right one?
Legally, probably. Morally? Well, you decide.
40 days of work went into the sequence, with regular updates posted to my youtube fanbase, and when the finished result went up 3-4 days ago the viewcount shot up 25,000 in just a couple of days.
Is this really the best way to be nurturing emerging "talent", by destroying labors of love created for the enjoyment of others? Why me? Why not the 1000's of other youtube up-loaders who DO post the original title sequence, whole bloody episodes in some cases?!
Yet after just 3 days of being live, an attempt has been made to destroy my work, which in itself is actually just serving to give more publicity.
Your thoughts?
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To be honest, I think they're just envious, this is better than the current one.
Like has been said, they're probably pissed that someone 'amateur' can produce something that looks more professional (and has a better theme mix) than the one they use on the programme.
If they were pulling down everything then fair enough but to single out one person seems odd. Either they want to protect their copyright or they don't. They can't have it both ways.
I'd definitely be watching any new official sequence carefully to see if any of your ideas are...erm...incorporated.
Bloody hell, that really is rather good.
A well deserved pat on the back for that.
Sort of. They either own the arrangement (which you've taken distinctive elements of for your work) as a work for hire, or Murray Gold owns it.
The actual theme itself is owned by Warner/Chappell. Who will expect the BBC to challenge its unauthorised use.
The BBC own the rights to the police box image, and the logo, and some apparent recycled elements in the visuals, and the excerpt you use at the end. They have every right, legal and moral, to exercise their rights. A legal responsibility too. Even if it seems unfair that they picked yours to challenge but not some others.
ETA: I don't want to seem unsympathetic. You put a lot of work into it, and it's rather good. I just don't think the BBC are being baddies here.
the other unofficial Doctor Who opening title sequences and/or tribute videos, and have them all taken down as well.
One other option might be to upload your title sequence video to another video sharing site, and to hell with YouTube!
Dailymotion, Vimeo and Veoh are three alternatives that spring to mind here, among several others.
That was incredible what you did.
Head up my friend, you should be proud of the fact you created something so amazing that is entered their radar!
Keep up the brilliant work..
As far as legalities go I still sympathies with the BBC a bit. I don't think they're being spiteful though it might seem unfair. But whatever. Good work regardless.
1) the don't use enough of the perpetual driving engine part, the duh duh duh duh, duh duh duh duh.. bit
2) The "ooooo, wa-aaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaa oooooooo@ parts are far too orchestral, they need to be more enearthly like they were in the Peter Davidson music...
Also LOVE that the Tardis flies upside down..
Yeah I just heard that too and it sucks. His (i assume was a guy) work was always being featured on doctorwhotv website, and a couple of mine have too in the past. We don't do it for the the hell of it, it's like a DJ playing to an empty room if there's no one around to enjoy it.
In an age of social media the BBC really ought to re-assess their priorities and be seen to endorse and encourage fan art as a benefit to the brand, not assume their brand is perfect and can't be improved upon by passionate individuals who don't get a penny for their hard work and contribution.
There is a very, VERY clear difference between someone trying to flog fake doctor who t-shirts, or uploading episodes to torrent sites to fan derivatives. The BBC seem to want to be seen as encouraging new talent with one hand, and destroying it with the other.
Still, no publicity is bad publicity as far as I care. My conscience is clear.
It'll be a bunch of people in suits who probably neither give much of a shit about Doctor Who and aren't connected to the Doctor Who staff in any sort of way.
It's being removed because how ever good it may be, it also blatantly infringes their copyright.
Quite. While the idea of Moffat and friends sitting at home trawling Youtube and getting into a frothing rage at fan videos is mildly comical it just isn't the reality. As I said before it will more likely be down to people reporting the video and they will be fellow users. Then the suits will indiscriminately block the content as sadly often happens.
There is or was a great Liverpool video about the CL final which used sky sports footage and sigur ros that was always being pulled but you can be sure it wasn't sigur ros or sky doing the banning.
I can assure you they did not, so stop trolling such utter rubbish. I removed any such suggestions on the one or two occasions the email address "thedoctor@bbc.co.uk" was posted by anyone.
Are you done trying to wind people up, or??
They have the right to say no to your use of their property - you making the sequence for your own entertainment or private show reel, your choice - but your publicly distributing via social media, infringement of not only their property but also their property rights.
You basically have no rights in this issue. I'm sorry. Other than the fact you produced it. The work you produced was commendable, but at the end of the day it is making use of BBC owned owned property and trademarks which is straight forward copyright infringement.
Sorry.