Have a look at this pdf file, a 1947 FBI report onto the possibility of Hitler living in South America Spain - which of course would provide easy escape route to Argentina.
He died at age 65 and is buried in a remote part of Patagonia, if you believe the rumours... I heard that 20th Century Fox is going to do a feature film on it, now that the History Channel has paved the way with their excellent piece "Hitler's Escape".
If he did escape - he did it with the full knowledge of the US government, who profited greatly from the war and indeed inherited all the nazi research into nerve gas and nasty stuff, biological and scientific info gained from experimenting on Jewish people.
Hes like a phoenix, he died and was reborn as Nick Griffin
Nick Griffin is an idiot - Hitler for all his faults at least had a braincell for the first part of the war at least - he lost his marbles once he realised he was losing.
He died at age 65 and is buried in a remote part of Patagonia, if you believe the rumours... I heard that 20th Century Fox is going to do a feature film on it, now that the History Channel has paved the way with their excellent piece "Hitler's Escape".
If he did escape - he did it with the full knowledge of the US government, who profited greatly from the war and indeed inherited all the nazi research into nerve gas and nasty stuff, biological and scientific info gained from experimenting on Jewish people.
Mmmm I don't think I belive he just toddled off, but than again you just never know!
Nick Griffin is an idiot - Hitler for all his faults at least had a braincell for the first part of the war at least - he lost his marbles once he realised he was losing.
Yeah he had a good plan, invading Poland and all that "world war" stuff that followed. It's just that killing jews business, must have been a PR nightmare.
So what about all these eye witness accounts of Hitler shooting himself in the bunker then? Are they all making it up? I don't think so.
Hitler shot himself behind closed doors and only the top Nazi's went in after and wrapped the bodies in blankets. Alot of the top Nazi's also committed suicide as soon as Germany surrendered. There could've easily have been a consipiracy between Hitler and the top dogs that the other Nazi's didnt know about therefore if they were caught they couldn't blab "yeah he escaped".
1/ There seem to be at least THREE different cremation events across a 36 hour period that various witnesses said were Hitler's. At each one, he was only identified being taken out of the bunker to be cremated by his dress trousers.
Here in the UK, we generally acept the account written by Hugh Trevor-Roper as definitive - but there's a growing canon of material over the last 60 years that would indicate there is some considerable doubt over WHEN Hitler "died" in the bunker, separately from the confusion over which cremation event was his....and thus were ANY of them???
2/ The Russians ONLY identified the skull on the word of a dentist who had carried out some work on a dental bridge BEFORE it was ever fitted by someone else, and some time before; he neither saw Hitler's OWN dental records, or saw Hitler in person. Yet the Russians took his word AT THE TIME that he knew what he was doing.
3/ THEY seem to have had some considerable doubt themselves; they continued to imprison and interrogate members of Hitler's staff in their custody for several years after the war, and long after the file of their findings was presented to Stalin.
Unfortunately what the Dail Mail fails to say is that among the remains were found part of a jaw with teeth that had easily identifiable bridge work that proved the only person they could have belonged to were Hitler, and were identified by the records kept by Hilter's personal physician.
Indentifying sex from skeletal remains from a skull fragement isn't an exact science, the only real way to tell and adult male from female if if enough of the pelvis is found as the Sciatic Notch is wider on women than men as womens hips are designed for child birth.
No doubt it was not a busy day at the Daily Mail so they published this story instead to fill the paper up., knowing the conspiracy theorists would lap it up.
...is that among the remains were found part of a jaw with teeth that had easily identifiable bridge work that proved the only person they could have belonged to were Hitler, and were identified by the records kept by Hilter's personal physician.
This isn't correct. The Russians didn't have access to those records at that time. The person who made that bridge was not the normal dentist Hitler used But it was made from impressions etc supplied to him - he never actually attended Hitler IIRC - and when later asked to identify the bridge from sketches, the Russians having been told of his role in the bridgework, he said it was his work. Later it transpired that the bridgework used to "identify" the skull wasn't actually recorded on Hitler's personal medical records as it hadn't been done or fitted by his normal dentist! There's no direct "continuity of evidence" that would satisfy a judge nowadays.
BTW - the Nick Bellatoni mentioned in the article isn't some fly-by-night archeology student He's the Conneticut State Archeologist/Pathologist!
Ditto for the "Linda Strasbaugh" mentioned...she's Professor of Genetics and Director of the Center for Applied Genetics Technology at the University of Connecticut :eek:
These are people right at the top of their respective professions. Any investigation result published by them affects their professional reputations...a bit like uttering the word "Atlantis" screws a historian's career - if they get something THIS big wrong, they're screwed! :D:D They wouldn't go to print if they weren't sure of their results - given the brickbats likely to be thrown at them now!
If it isnt his skull ,im not too bothered at least hes dead by now and thats a good thing
i seriously hope they dont make a film about him escaping,some inbreds will take it as gospel.
If it isnt his skull ,im not too bothered at least hes dead by now and thats a good thing
i seriously hope they dont make a film about him escaping,some inbreds will take it as gospel.
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I guess this was second question asked at the press conference that day
There was a huge influx of Germans, many of them high ranking nazis, into Argentina after WW2.
They say that Eva Braun is still there, alive.
A journalist called Abel Basti wrote a book about it - there's a web page with all kinds of interesting stuff on it...
http://www.barilochenazi.com.ar/english/index.html
Have a look at this pdf file, a 1947 FBI report onto the possibility of Hitler living in South America Spain - which of course would provide easy escape route to Argentina.
All in all, very interesting.
He died at age 65 and is buried in a remote part of Patagonia, if you believe the rumours... I heard that 20th Century Fox is going to do a feature film on it, now that the History Channel has paved the way with their excellent piece "Hitler's Escape".
If he did escape - he did it with the full knowledge of the US government, who profited greatly from the war and indeed inherited all the nazi research into nerve gas and nasty stuff, biological and scientific info gained from experimenting on Jewish people.
Nick Griffin is an idiot - Hitler for all his faults at least had a braincell for the first part of the war at least - he lost his marbles once he realised he was losing.
Mmmm I don't think I belive he just toddled off, but than again you just never know!
well if he was caught now he might get a caution or an asbo for being a very naughty boy
Yeah he had a good plan, invading Poland and all that "world war" stuff that followed. It's just that killing jews business, must have been a PR nightmare.
Proof Hitler is still alive.
He looks good for 120 dont you think?
he must have built the Butlins there, it's like a Nazi concentration camp
Hitler shot himself behind closed doors and only the top Nazi's went in after and wrapped the bodies in blankets. Alot of the top Nazi's also committed suicide as soon as Germany surrendered. There could've easily have been a consipiracy between Hitler and the top dogs that the other Nazi's didnt know about therefore if they were caught they couldn't blab "yeah he escaped".
Here in the UK, we generally acept the account written by Hugh Trevor-Roper as definitive - but there's a growing canon of material over the last 60 years that would indicate there is some considerable doubt over WHEN Hitler "died" in the bunker, separately from the confusion over which cremation event was his....and thus were ANY of them???
2/ The Russians ONLY identified the skull on the word of a dentist who had carried out some work on a dental bridge BEFORE it was ever fitted by someone else, and some time before; he neither saw Hitler's OWN dental records, or saw Hitler in person. Yet the Russians took his word AT THE TIME that he knew what he was doing.
3/ THEY seem to have had some considerable doubt themselves; they continued to imprison and interrogate members of Hitler's staff in their custody for several years after the war, and long after the file of their findings was presented to Stalin.
Indentifying sex from skeletal remains from a skull fragement isn't an exact science, the only real way to tell and adult male from female if if enough of the pelvis is found as the Sciatic Notch is wider on women than men as womens hips are designed for child birth.
No doubt it was not a busy day at the Daily Mail so they published this story instead to fill the paper up., knowing the conspiracy theorists would lap it up.
Quality.
This isn't correct. The Russians didn't have access to those records at that time. The person who made that bridge was not the normal dentist Hitler used
Ditto for the "Linda Strasbaugh" mentioned...she's Professor of Genetics and Director of the Center for Applied Genetics Technology at the University of Connecticut :eek:
These are people right at the top of their respective professions. Any investigation result published by them affects their professional reputations...a bit like uttering the word "Atlantis" screws a historian's career
i seriously hope they dont make a film about him escaping,some inbreds will take it as gospel.
He should not be made mythic.
Says you from Norfolk
good point!