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"Some men who watch child pornography are NOT pedophiles"

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    sodavlacsodavlac Posts: 10,607
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    .Lauren. wrote: »
    On a slightly different note, I don't understand why downloading child porn is classed as 'making' it. It was on 24 Hours in Police Custody the other night.

    Something to do with torrents or the way certain file sharing protocols work? I sometimes watch live streams of football matches that I'm not supposed to be viewing. As well as downloading it I'm also distributing it to others at the same time.

    Edit: If not that, then maybe it's because when they download and store it on their hard drive it's counted as making a copy of it?
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    stoatiestoatie Posts: 78,106
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    The worst my drunken browsing ever gets is the poetry forum on Stormfront. But that's hilarious.
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    delazarousdelazarous Posts: 503
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    It's irrelevant how they classify themselves. If they view child abuse images they are supporting & usually paying for the further rape & buggery of babies & children.
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    BerBer Posts: 24,562
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    .Lauren. wrote: »
    I think you would find it incredibly difficult to watch if you are not a peadophile, I mean even if you were curious, why would you want to? I don't think I could, even if I were curious. I don't think you would have to be a paedophile to watch it as a one off, but to regularly make a habit of it? Yeah, something's not right there.

    This, really. As said, watching child porn doesn't make you a paedophile any more than watching gay porn makes you gay - but I would be concerned about the mindset of a person who would actually choose to watch it!
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    neelianeelia Posts: 24,186
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    Some people have to watch it as part of their job - e.g. police to ascertain if a crime has been committed. I don't much care about the niceties as to whether someone who watches it must be sexually attracted to children. If you don't need to watch it and it is real and you do, then you have continued the abuse.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 935
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    I don't see why people are trying to make out because you don't have to be gay to watch gay porn that you aren't a pedophile if you make a habit of watching child porn. I'm sorry if you seek out child porn, you are a child abuser. By actually watching these videos you are encouraging them to be made and therefore encouraging the sexual abuse of children. That is disgusting.
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    NamiraNamira Posts: 3,099
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    stoatie wrote: »
    The worst my drunken browsing ever gets is the poetry forum on Stormfront. But that's hilarious.

    There's a poetry forum on Stormfront? :D:D:D

    Part of me wants to see but part of me is scared because I'm sober.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,249
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    Lexii-Mae wrote: »
    I'm sorry if you seek out child porn, you are a child abuser.

    Nonsense. I watched an ISIS propaganda video the other week, I guess that makes me a murderous jihadist.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,275
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    francie wrote: »
    Hmmm, wonder why - back lash do you think?

    Yep. It's blatantly obvious why he's had a 'change of heart'. I'm guessing he's concerned that his comments could affect his book sales.
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    CLL DodgeCLL Dodge Posts: 115,882
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    QT 3.14 wrote: »
    I watch lesbian porn, it doesn't mean I'm a lesbian.

    And if you watch child porn it doesn't mean you are a child.
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    MC_SatanMC_Satan Posts: 26,512
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    Animal porn is illegal too.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 935
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    Red John wrote: »
    Nonsense. I watched an ISIS propaganda video the other week, I guess that makes me a murderous jihadist.

    How is that even a valid comparison?
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    ArcanaArcana Posts: 37,521
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    anne_666 wrote: »
    It's unquantifiable . Who knows how many are sexually aroused and masturbate watching it but why would anyone choose to watch such abuse?

    So you are at least acknowledging the possibility that some men who watch child porn are not pedophiles?

    My hunch is that there are as many different motivations for choosing to watch child porn as there are for choosing to watch bestiality.
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    franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    zx50 wrote: »
    Yep. It's blatantly obvious why he's had a 'change of heart'. I'm guessing he's concerned that his comments could affect his book sales.

    Just been reading the comments on his FB page - oops not a happy chappy I bet.
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    Pumping IronPumping Iron Posts: 29,891
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    Of course I don't. Which, with the greatest of respect, renders this statement invalid ..



    And that's the point. Watching something online does not automatically mean you gain sexual gratification from it or any other kind of gratification. Obviously, it goes without saying that there are clearly people out there who do gain gratification from certain things online and those are the ones who need dealing with.

    To essentially declare that "if you do this, then you're definitely that" is a gross over simplification IMO.

    So what is it that makes you want to watch animal porn?
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    sodavlacsodavlac Posts: 10,607
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    Red John wrote: »
    Nonsense. I watched an ISIS propaganda video the other week, I guess that makes me a murderous jihadist.

    Not sure about that.

    ISIS propaganda videos are made to encourage ISIS sympathisers and make others feel angry at ISIS or their own governments. They're made to make the western viewer upset, outraged, scared etc.

    Child porn videos are made to arouse the viewer.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,249
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    Lexii-Mae wrote: »
    How is that even a valid comparison?

    Because by your logic merely searching out video content means that you are the sort of person who would engage in the activities depicted in the video.
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    anne_666anne_666 Posts: 72,891
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    Arcana wrote: »
    So you are at least acknowledging the possibility that some men who watch child porn are not pedophiles?

    My hunch is that there are as many different motivations for choosing to watch child porn as there are for choosing to watch bestiality.

    Such as?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 935
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    Red John wrote: »
    Because by your logic merely searching out video content means that you are the sort of person who would engage in the activities depicted in the video.

    If you do it for sexual pleasure and you do actually get it off to it, then yes you would like to engage in the activities in the video and suggests the only thing stopping you is The Law. You can wank of to little kiddies being abused, but not feel AS GUILTY because it wasn't YOU that actually touched them.
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    ArcanaArcana Posts: 37,521
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    anne_666 wrote: »
    Such as?

    Didn't Pete Townshend claim he was doing research?
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,275
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    Lexii-Mae wrote: »
    I don't see why people are trying to make out because you don't have to be gay to watch gay porn that you aren't a pedophile if you make a habit of watching child porn. I'm sorry if you seek out child porn, you are a child abuser. By actually watching these videos you are encouraging them to be made and therefore encouraging the sexual abuse of children. That is disgusting.

    Not necessarily true. People who sexually abuse children are the abusers.
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    franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    zx50 wrote: »
    Not necessarily true. People who sexually abuse children are the abusers.

    And the sickos supporting this industry, by watching, are just as heinous in my book.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,249
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    Lexii-Mae wrote: »
    If you do it for sexual pleasure and you do actually get it off to it, then yes you would like to engage in the activities in the video and suggests the only thing stopping you is The Law. You can wank of to little kiddies being abused, but not feel AS GUILTY because it wasn't YOU that actually touched them.

    But now you're saying something different. Before, it was a straight up "if you search for child porn, you are a child abuser". Now you're saying if you get sexual pleasure from watching it then you would like to do it, which still isn't the same as actually being a child abuser.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 935
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    francie wrote: »
    And the sickos supporting this industry, by watching, are just as heinous in my book.

    Exactly. If you had children, found out they'd been sexually abused. If there were other people there when it happened that didn't actually touch the child themselves BUT still sat there and sexually pleasured themselves whilst watching, wouldn't you think they are just as sick and as bad as the abuser? Anyone here that thinks otherwise, is a pedo in denial.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,275
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    francie wrote: »
    And the sickos supporting this industry, by watching, are just as heinous in my book.

    Yes, but they're not child abusers if they only watching it.
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