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Germany and Austria on 0

21stCenturyBoy21stCenturyBoy Posts: 44,506
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in Eurovision Song Contest #1
The first since Jemini, if you discount the Semi Finals.

I think they just fell through the cracks - not bad but not dynamic enough to pick up any televotes.
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    Mrs ChecksMrs Checks Posts: 8,372
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    Gutted, I loved them both. You're right though, they just fell through the cracks.
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    PatheticFallacyPatheticFallacy Posts: 7,761
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    Austria were really unlucky being drawn slap bang in the middle of the final, but even besides that the Big 5 all did terribly with the exception of Italy and I think something needs to be done about the current way of dealing with them (either let them perform in semis without needing to qualify or remove the system entirely or anything other than what's in place now)
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    Pandora.Pandora. Posts: 21,417
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    I feel so bad for them, they deserved to do much better. :(
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    phill363phill363 Posts: 24,313
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    Amazing was never expecting a nil points but for two countries it was crazy
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    starrystarry Posts: 12,434
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    I didn't like the German one really.

    But the results in general are always a joke. The top 3 songs were all vastly overhyped, so people voted for them to try and decide the winner rather than vote independently taking into account ALL the songs.
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    MARTYM8MARTYM8 Posts: 44,710
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    PatheticFallacy wrote: »
    Austria were really unlucky being drawn slap bang in the middle of the final, but even besides that the Big 5 all did terribly with the exception of Italy and I think something needs to be done about the current way of dealing with them (either let them perform in semis without needing to qualify or remove the system entirely or anything other than what's in place now)

    Germanŷ won recently and Italy did well again.

    It's not being Big 5 that is the issue - it's the songs.
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    brbbrb Posts: 27,561
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    I am gutted for Ann Sophie. She deserved better.
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    chrono88chrono88 Posts: 3,045
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    Epic fail by Austria. From Winner to Zero.

    2 0s was just embarrassing.
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    scoobiesnacksscoobiesnacks Posts: 3,055
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    Average songs performed poorly on the night, you had to have a good song and a gimmic or 2.
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    starrystarry Posts: 12,434
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    scoobiesnacks wrote: »
    Average songs performed poorly on the night, you had to have a good song and a gimmic or 2.

    An average song wins though. Basically you need hype.
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    PatheticFallacyPatheticFallacy Posts: 7,761
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    chrono88 wrote: »
    Epic fail by Austria. From Winner to Zero.

    I'm viewing it as a Europe-wide punishment to ORF for their abysmal hosting ;-)
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    Rich Tea.Rich Tea. Posts: 22,048
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    Is this the first time a country has won the contest and then hosted it and gone from a win to nil points?
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    starrystarry Posts: 12,434
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    MARTYM8 wrote: »
    Germanŷ won recently and Italy did well again.

    It's not being Big 5 that is the issue - it's the songs.

    Germany won with an overhyped song. It's all about hype. Italy gets publicity every year, the only way they fail is if the performance is terrible, their song this year was very average.
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    Tom_MullenTom_Mullen Posts: 893
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    MARTYM8 wrote: »
    Germanŷ won recently and Italy did well again.

    It's not being Big 5 that is the issue - it's the songs.

    Absolutely it has nothing to do with the big 5 it is all about the songs that's why austria won last year and got 0 this year.
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    alwaysanigel247alwaysanigel247 Posts: 6,360
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    Rich Tea. wrote: »
    Is this the first time a country has won the contest and then hosted it and gone from a win to nil points?

    I think so especially in modern times.

    First time since 1983 we've had more then 1 null point countries.
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    topdog2006topdog2006 Posts: 467
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    Rich Tea. wrote: »
    Is this the first time a country has won the contest and then hosted it and gone from a win to nil points?

    Think it might be, the last I can remember was 2003 when Latvia came second to last above only Jemini .
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    21stCenturyBoy21stCenturyBoy Posts: 44,506
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    alwaysanigel247 wrote: »
    I think so especially in modern times.

    First time since 1983 we've had more then 1 null point countries.

    1997 had Portugal and Norway, I think.
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    PatheticFallacyPatheticFallacy Posts: 7,761
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    alwaysanigel247 wrote: »
    I think so especially in modern times.

    First time since 1983 we've had more then 1 null point countries.

    It happened in 1997 too (Portugal and Norway) ^_^
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    Rich Tea.Rich Tea. Posts: 22,048
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    alwaysanigel247 wrote: »
    I think so especially in modern times.

    First time since 1983 we've had more then 1 null point countries.
    Now that is a surprise and makes our 5 points seem even more pitiful in that historical context.

    It did as others say happen in 1997 with Norway's Tor Endresen and Portugal's Celia Lawson in the year the UK came 1st and won, oh the heady days.
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    Irishguy123Irishguy123 Posts: 14,651
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    It's incredible, give the vast number of countries voting nowadays I didn't think it possible that anyone could get 0 any more. Certainly very shocked that Austria scored 0.
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    davies24davies24 Posts: 317
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    Germany should have known better than let a Brit write their song.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 761
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    Basically not even Germans voted for Germany tonight, or there would have been a few points from Spain, Switzerland and Austria for Germany.

    Problem was that Ann Sophie wasn't the first choice. The public had voted for a man who seemingly couldn't handle the stress of it.

    I didn't expect Austria to end with 0 points though. I thought we'd give them something.
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    MandarkMandark Posts: 47,964
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    Irishguy123 wrote: »
    It's incredible, give the vast number of countries voting nowadays I didn't think it possible that anyone could get 0 any more. Certainly very shocked that Austria scored 0.
    I remember some maths bod explaining it one year. You have to be in the top 10 of a country's voting to score. So an act could get the 11th best set of votes from each country (technically making it the 11th best act) and still end up with no points.

    Edit: A fairer way to do it would be to give points for every country's full order of 26 votes. So 26 down to 1 or 25 down to 0 if you like.
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    Nick_PirceNick_Pirce Posts: 1,021
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    I feel bad for Ann Sophie
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    starrystarry Posts: 12,434
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    Irishguy123 wrote: »
    It's incredible, give the vast number of countries voting nowadays I didn't think it possible that anyone could get 0 any more. Certainly very shocked that Austria scored 0.

    Most are bandwagoners, they vote for what they think might win based on publicity, and songs that get no hype are in trouble.
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