Options
Article 50 might be invoked tomorrow
European Parliament calls for urgent triggering of Article 50
Posted at
10:55
The European Parliament is meeting tomorrow for an emergency plenary session to discuss and vote on a resolution on the UK referendum. This is the draft text of the resolution, which in practice, establishes the official position of the Parliament towards Brexit.
Most interestingly, the Parliament is urging David Cameron to trigger Article 50 immediately.
It "warns that to prevent damaging uncertainty for everyone and in order to protect the Union’s integrity, the notification stipulated in Article 50 TEU must take place immediately; consequently asks the UK Prime Minister to notify the outcome of the referendum to the European Council of 28/29June; this notification will launch the withdrawal procedure."
The resolution also reminds parties "that the consent of the European Parliament is required under the Treaties; the European Parliament must be fully involved at all stages of the various procedures concerning the withdrawal agreement and any future relationship".
In other words, in theory at least, the European Parliament has the power to veto any new deal between the UK and EU.
So they passing a law that says the PM as to inform them tomorrow or Wednesday and when he does this will launch the withdrawal process .
Posted at
10:55
The European Parliament is meeting tomorrow for an emergency plenary session to discuss and vote on a resolution on the UK referendum. This is the draft text of the resolution, which in practice, establishes the official position of the Parliament towards Brexit.
Most interestingly, the Parliament is urging David Cameron to trigger Article 50 immediately.
It "warns that to prevent damaging uncertainty for everyone and in order to protect the Union’s integrity, the notification stipulated in Article 50 TEU must take place immediately; consequently asks the UK Prime Minister to notify the outcome of the referendum to the European Council of 28/29June; this notification will launch the withdrawal procedure."
The resolution also reminds parties "that the consent of the European Parliament is required under the Treaties; the European Parliament must be fully involved at all stages of the various procedures concerning the withdrawal agreement and any future relationship".
In other words, in theory at least, the European Parliament has the power to veto any new deal between the UK and EU.
So they passing a law that says the PM as to inform them tomorrow or Wednesday and when he does this will launch the withdrawal process .
0
Comments
They can't - the only country which can invoke article 50 is the member concerned - and the EU cannot force them to.
The referendum was just the government asking us the people our opinion and carries no legal weight. We have not left, we have not started the process of leaving and we should do it in our own sweet time.
^^ This and article 50 is in the Lisbon Treaty and the EU parliament has no authority to amend that treaty.
We should however be in communication with the EU on the likely timeframe.
Guess they changing the law like our parliament did like they did to extend voter registration. If it gets passed then that's that.
Could be many years. Doesn't have to be envoked at all. There's no "use-by" date. Maybe in future the commission WILL put a time limit on?
Article 50 will be triggered when the UK government is ready and not before.
This is the EU sabre-rattling/trying to bully us - which ironically is one of the reasons for the result coming out as it did.
How could they put a time limit on it? It is not legally binding - the Government are not required to go through with Brexit at all. Unless you want them to force all governments to invoke Article 50 every time someone suggests they leave the EU
There is certainly a case for a time-limit after a referendum specifically asking the public about in/out.
Simply for the sake of other member states.
Having this hang over their heads is bad for their business as well.
She knows how this works - and that the EU need to be conciliatory not trying to bully us!
Insiders in Germany yesterday were saying they didn't expect the UK to trigger it at all.
Trouble is though, the rules are ambiguous. Article 50 can be triggered by a member state at a time when a member state chooses, but the situation here is that the British voted to leave so that could, theoretically, be considered as a reason to trigger it. If Article 50 was to be triggered without referendum, then of course it is the right of the member state to do that when they are ready. But when you have a public instruction, reported globally, then the message to the world is "we want to leave". Therefore, we should just start the process. We can apply for an extension later if we need one, but it isn't fair on the EU or the Brits to just play politics.
The EU cannot be taken hostage by a Tory leadership wrangle. We need an article 50 notification now.
Not sure where you got that from but it is nonsense as has been already answered up the page.
Hostage is a bizarre term as we are leaving. People really need to calm down, the UK has voted to leave the EU and will do. Currently it remains in the EU until article 50 is invoked and the negotiations to complete an exit agreement are completed or the 2 year time limit once article 50 is invoked is up. i.e. the UK will most likely still be in the EU in 2018.
Presumably in trying to negotiate a "Divorce settlement" all 26 member states will have to agree (and maybe even ratify) the terms.
It is in the interests of the EU to have us go fast. Superfically the risk of contagion and unrest in other countries is heightened the longer the UK hangs about. To get us out quick they will need to concede to more of our demands or risk prolonging the negotiation. But that sets a precedent that could make it more appealing for other withdrawls to follow. The longer they try to haggle us down the longer we hang about.
Yet I think Merkel and others realise it also isn't in the EUs interests to be seen to treat us less than fairly, for the same reason it is good practice to treat employees whose jobs have been made redundant as generously as possible. The key to handling a mass redundancy exercise is to have one eye on the staff who are staying. If they see former colleagues being treated badly the people you need to keep feel insecure and disaffected too. It makes it very hard to settle the dust and get back to work afterwards if the remaining workforce are thinking 'there but for the grace of God...'.
And for the EU to make it difficult for the UK to withdraw basically sends the message that once in the EU you can't get out unless the EU say so - which is the very atttitude (perceived or otherwsie) that provoked this withdrawal in the first place. And is rumbling around Europe anyway no matter how fast or slowly the UK withdraw. Brussels can do what they like but the discontent won't go away unless they actually address it. Seeing the UK struggle to execute a democratic process will not be lost on many of the thnking people of Europe.
Yet to let us go having free access at no cost blah de blah de blah makes a mockery of the whole member's club. Why would anyone continue to pay their fees if you can use all their facilities for free.
Meanwhile we are tearing ourselves in two and our leaders are fighting among themselves. We can't go back, we can't go forward and it seems nobody has a clue where the hell we are going (apart from out) or how to get there. Its like we have cast off in a small dingy without taking a map or a compass or even knowing where we are headed.
What a f*** up! How I wish I was a Canadian or Australian or some such academic who could observe in fascination from the side lines without having their future screwed up by ego, incompetenc and piss poor planning.
^^
Is this the referendum equivalent to finding a Japanese sniper on an island in the Pacific in 1976 who still thinks the war is on?
:D
Chill rothy man - the referendum is over. No need to be in full on Farage mode anymore
I suspect any unclarity would be as a result of nobody ever expecting anyone to actually go and do it - see also 'Leave flummoxed by unexpected victory' type remarks.
Now we have a situation where the EU "are" asking the UK Goverment to act upon the result of this referendum and they are considered the bad boys is this situation, seems that people opinions switch around to suit and as long EU is seen in an unfavourable light that's all that matter.
You ain't seen nothing yet!