How is using 1 site which most people don't use reasonable
It's not but there's no reasoning with him. He doesn't understand.
It's no different to a car company claiming their car is the most popular because it was seen the most on the M5. What about people who have never driven on the M5?
How is using 1 site which most people don't use reasonable
You use proportions - you see how many users there are then see what device they use to upload their photos/what camera was sued.
It's not rocket science - you don't need for everyone to use the site. It's no different to how they can get voting results pretty spot on before a count. They take surveys and then extrapolate the results.
It's not but there's no reasoning with him. He doesn't understand.
It's no different to a car company claiming their car is the most popular because it was seen the most on the M5. What about people who have never driven on the M5?
It's hardly reliable.
That's the thing though - that car probably is the most common car if it's seen the most on the M5. If you stood by the M5 for a week and averaged out the cars you would find the most common...it's common sense. But I don't think you understand such things.
I suppose it depends if you count manufacturers or models.
Canon: Ranked first with 220 models.
Nikon: Ranked second with 165 models.
Apple: Ranked third with 12 models.
If you look at the most popular cameras, the iPhone 4S, 4 and 5 all beat their nearest rival, the Canon 5D Mark II.
Scroll down a little on that site, it shows iPhones are the 3 most popular cameras used to upload on that site. An the site is the most popular photo site on the web.
Well not really! Numbers of people who own phones compared to 81 million people who use flickr.
The point is, your objection seemed to be that it's a service that most people don't use. But that goes for almost any service in existence. As far as photo sharing and uploading goes, Flickr is a big site. Plus, it's easy to see which cameras have been used because it stores metadata.
I know they could use other photo hosting sites but that is likely to show the same results.
Base it on sales!! Not on uploads on a site that most people don't use. 81 million users compared to how many that own smartphones, DSLR, basic point and shoot cameras that dont upload?
Scroll down a little on that site, it shows iPhones are the 3 most popular cameras used to upload on that site. An the site is the most popular photo site on the web.
Again, as i said. a quick look. So explain how they can say based on 1 sites rankings that is the worlds most used camera?
Not everyone uploads pics so how could they ever know that?
Base it on sales yes, on uploads, no.
That's how stats work, you know.. Like when companies say 1 letter of complaint represents 500 people who were also offended or put out by a product/service/TV show.
Or how TV shows viewing figures are based on 5000 monitoring devices.
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wow rude.
How is using 1 site which most people don't use reasonable
It's not but there's no reasoning with him. He doesn't understand.
It's no different to a car company claiming their car is the most popular because it was seen the most on the M5. What about people who have never driven on the M5?
It's hardly reliable.
How is it unreasonable
Common sense really. And how doesn't it make any sense?
Flickr has 87 million users. Some users will have never uploaded a photo. Most users wont have iphones either.
So of course its unreasonable.
It actually appears from a quick look here http://www.flickr.com/cameras that canon cameras are the most popular.
You'll struggle to find any service that most people use though. Possibly Facebook.
Err, you might want to recheck that site. It clearly shows the iPhone leading.
At the bottom, under Camera Brands used in the Flickr Community, canon is ranked number 1.
I suppose it depends if you count manufacturers or models.
Canon: Ranked first with 220 models.
Nikon: Ranked second with 165 models.
Apple: Ranked third with 12 models.
If you look at the most popular cameras, the iPhone 4S, 4 and 5 all beat their nearest rival, the Canon 5D Mark II.
Well not really! Numbers of people who own phones compared to 81 million people who use flickr.
You use proportions - you see how many users there are then see what device they use to upload their photos/what camera was sued.
It's not rocket science - you don't need for everyone to use the site. It's no different to how they can get voting results pretty spot on before a count. They take surveys and then extrapolate the results.
Surely you must understand this?
Yeah, I would go take a second look at that site if I was you.;)
If you look at the line graphs the most popular is the iPhone 4S, followed by the 5, the the 4, then the Canon EOS 5D, and finally the Canon EOS 7D.
Around 200,000 pictures were uploaded from iPhones yesterday.
Yeah true. Like i said, i had a quick look!
Point here is, they cannot possible say based on 1 site thats is the worlds most used camera.
That's the thing though - that car probably is the most common car if it's seen the most on the M5. If you stood by the M5 for a week and averaged out the cars you would find the most common...it's common sense. But I don't think you understand such things.
Again, as i said. a quick look. So explain how they can say based on 1 sites rankings that is the worlds most used camera?
Not everyone uploads pics so how could they ever know that?
Base it on sales yes, on uploads, no.
Scroll down a little on that site, it shows iPhones are the 3 most popular cameras used to upload on that site. An the site is the most popular photo site on the web.
Course they can do - how else could it be done.
I know they could use other photo hosting sites but that is likely to show the same results.
The point is, your objection seemed to be that it's a service that most people don't use. But that goes for almost any service in existence. As far as photo sharing and uploading goes, Flickr is a big site. Plus, it's easy to see which cameras have been used because it stores metadata.
If you based it on sales, you'd get the same result.
Base it on sales!! Not on uploads on a site that most people don't use. 81 million users compared to how many that own smartphones, DSLR, basic point and shoot cameras that dont upload?
How cant you see the issue there?
I know, I said that in the post you quoted.
That's how stats work, you know.. Like when companies say 1 letter of complaint represents 500 people who were also offended or put out by a product/service/TV show.
Or how TV shows viewing figures are based on 5000 monitoring devices.
So who sold most? Apple? Nikon? Canon?
You wouldn't though! There are so many camera's out there and camera phones its impossible to tell.
Apple are basing this on 1 site that people upload pics to.