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Elton John becomes a father at 63

The VixenThe Vixen Posts: 9,829
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http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/music/112534539.html

His partner and himself have purchased a baby from a surrogate in America.

Should we congratulate them or feel pity for the child?

Is 63 too old to receive a baby from a surrogate?

Is it OK for the rich and famous but not for us mere mortals?

What do you think?
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    gmphmacgmphmac Posts: 2,212
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    Well, I'm gay, but I've got to say that this is just wrong on so many levels :eek:
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    *Clem**Clem* Posts: 4,101
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    Yes I think it's too old. I think it's too old for a woman or a man to have a kid at that age.
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    The VixenThe Vixen Posts: 9,829
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    gmphmac wrote: »
    Well, I'm gay, but I've got to say that this is just wrong on so many levels :eek:

    I don't think it is about being gay, I think it is about a man who could easily be a great grandad, having an accessory. Had he have got a surrogate at 30, I wouldn't have any concerns but at 63, he's far more likely to have a child, who will feel the agony of losing a parent when still a child.

    It seems incredibly selfish to me.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,272
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    Purchased a baby. It's great when you're wealthy. Anyway, I'm sure him and his partner will give the child a fantastic life with lots of love.
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    Achtung!Achtung! Posts: 3,398
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    Congratulations to Elton and Renate.
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    You_moYou_mo Posts: 11,334
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    What Sir Elton wants, Sir Elton gets!
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    The VixenThe Vixen Posts: 9,829
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    *Clem* wrote: »
    Yes I think it's too old. I think it's too old for a woman or a man to have a kid at that age.

    On the plus side I imagine the biological mother is a young woman, I don't know whose sperm was used whether it was Eltons or his partners. If it was his 48 year old partner again, the child will have a better chance of being healthy which is a good thing at least.
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    Hobbit FeetHobbit Feet Posts: 18,798
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    His partner is 48

    Many men become fathers at 48, and many children lose one parent whilst they are relatively young.

    Lots of judgemental opinions on this thread.
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    susie-4964susie-4964 Posts: 23,143
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    The Vixen wrote: »
    On the plus side I imagine the biological mother is a young woman, I don't know whose sperm was used whether it was Eltons or his partners. If it was his 48 year old partner again, the child will have a better chance of being healthy which is a good thing at least.

    Doesn't matter whose sperm it was, age doesn't really seem to affect sperm quality.

    There are many older fathers around, with second families etc., and the mother could be around David Furness's age also, but my gut feeling is that "buying" a child because you want one and you've got everything else simply is wrong.
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    susie-4964susie-4964 Posts: 23,143
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    His partner is 48

    Many men become fathers at 48, and many children lose one parent whilst they are relatively young.

    Lots of judgemental opinions on this thread.

    If an opinion that's opposite to yours is automatically considered judgemental, you're going to spend a lot of your life hacked off about a lot of people. :cool:
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    BagpipesBagpipes Posts: 5,443
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    I hope the poor thing doesn't end up with Elton's hair.
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    BirthdayGirlBirthdayGirl Posts: 64,286
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    Personally, I think 63 is too old, whether it be a man, woman, gay person or famous person.
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    Hobbit FeetHobbit Feet Posts: 18,798
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    susie-4964 wrote: »
    If an opinion that's opposite to yours is automatically considered judgemental, you're going to spend a lot of your life hacked off about a lot of people. :cool:

    I'm not hacked off, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion.

    Your logic is very strange. Of course an opposing opinion isn't necessarily a judgement - they are two completely different things.

    But you know that.
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    GirthGirth Posts: 12,403
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    Bagpipes wrote: »
    I hope the poor thing doesn't end up with Elton's hair.
    It probably has his hair now, most babies do.
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    SeanHunterSeanHunter Posts: 1,374
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    I was shocked to read he was only 63. I thought he was about 80.
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    The VixenThe Vixen Posts: 9,829
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    His partner is 48

    Many men become fathers at 48, and many children lose one parent whilst they are relatively young.

    Lots of judgemental opinions on this thread.

    I lost my father when I was 14, the pain in incredible, intense and lasts for years, my father died as a relatively young man with a young family. I think it's incredibly selfish to bring a child into the world knowing that there is a high chance the child will be bereaved before he reaches his twenties.
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    ProvenceJaneProvenceJane Posts: 799
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    I just hope that Elton and his partner had to jump through many hoops with social services before he was allowed to go ahead with this scheme. At the end of the day it's a human being with a life lying ahead of it. Anyone, be they male or female, should really think twice about having children at the age of 63 because the trauma to the youngster when they pass on will be immense.
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    You_moYou_mo Posts: 11,334
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    Bagpipes wrote: »
    I hope the poor thing doesn't end up with Elton's hair.

    Well it can console itself it won't be poor in the money sense! I just hope Elton isn't a Mommy Dearest. "NO WIRE HANGERS EVER!!!".
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,785
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    I have mixed feelings. If it were a woman having a baby at 63 I'd say she was too old but Furnish is 48 which I wouldn't consider too old to become a parent. I do wonder why they didn't 'have' a child earlier as they have been together for years.

    Good luck to them all and I'm sure the baby will have a happy if not conventional life.
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    Wayne DibblyWayne Dibbly Posts: 3,252
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    So it seems that this years "must have" fashion accessory on planet Elton is a baby.
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    Pugwash69Pugwash69 Posts: 3,787
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    So Elton could possibly love another 20 years yet. His partner might have another 40 years. Statistically I don't see a problem?

    Since when did life end at 63? p.s. not quite hit 40 myself.
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    MAWMAW Posts: 38,777
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    Girth wrote: »
    It probably has his hair now, most babies do.

    More to the point, whose hair does elton have these days? Or is it own, transplanted from a hairier part of him:eek:
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    The VixenThe Vixen Posts: 9,829
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    susie-4964 wrote: »
    Doesn't matter whose sperm it was, age doesn't really seem to affect sperm quality.

    There are many older fathers around, with second families etc., and the mother could be around David Furness's age also, but my gut feeling is that "buying" a child because you want one and you've got everything else simply is wrong.

    Actually there is lots of evidence recorded USA Today just one of many sites that show sperm for older men not only make conception more difficult but the baby born with defects.

    He could have become a father with a surrogate in his 30's I'd have no problem with that.
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    Hobbit FeetHobbit Feet Posts: 18,798
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    The Vixen wrote: »
    I lost my father when I was 14, the pain in incredible, intense and lasts for years, my father died as a relatively young man with a young family. I think it's incredibly selfish to bring a child into the world knowing that there is a high chance the child will be bereaved before he reaches his twenties.

    Perhaps his youngish partner was desperate for a child.

    If he was single then I'd be more reticent about the wiseness of it.

    Losing a parent must be awful but it can happen to a parent of any age - but I know the chances are increased with an older parent.
    It would be very rare for a child to wish they had never been born just so they didn't have the pain of losing a parent.

    There are far worse qualifications for being a parent than age.
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    GirthGirth Posts: 12,403
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    MAW wrote: »
    More to the point, whose hair does elton have these days? Or is it own, transplanted from a hairier part of him:eek:
    Maybe he has bought the baby to harvest its hair, like those families that have babies to provide organs for other family members.
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