[Selena]

Originally Posted by Ada Rabble

It looks like they're looking out for her but either Adam or Luke A said 'wheres your compassion'. that was quite a critical thing to say, must have stung a bit and it's a bit unfair really because Deana has shown compassion at various times

Didn't Luke A say that Deana is very compassionate except when she's drunk.

[Trish123]

Originally Posted by yellowlabbie

They are just touting for votes, look at us, we are the goody goodies.

Who are touting for votes? What a nasty thing to think.Maybe Luke A and Adam supporters should really look at this mentality before spending money to save her.

[B L Zeebub]

Originally Posted by hulakula

Adam and Luke tried to cheer her up following the Spam incident to mention just one of many examples.

Luke's response was a snappy, "Get over it!", as I recall.

[B L Zeebub]

Originally Posted by Trish123

Who are touting for votes? What a nasty thing to think.Maybe Luke A and Adam supporters should really look at this mentality before spending money to save her.

Why blame Deana?

Adam and Luke have both admitted that they are not being totally themselves, in order to survive. I think they would both be more popular if they had stood up to others more.

[Trish123]

Originally Posted by Ada Rabble

I'm not so sure if friends are so blunt
I do think though that they are a lot more composed in their conflicts, than Deana right now.
I think she'd rather much more that they'd back her up,

Well Deana would tell her m8 she's is fat if she asked her is that blunt enough for you?

[hisdogspot]

I guess Adam and Luke A are simply not 'good enough' to be Deana's friends then ?

That seems to be the the crux of this thread

[Trish123]

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

Why blame Deana?

Adam and Luke have both admitted that they are not being totally themselves, in order to survive. I think they would both be more popular if they had stood up to others more.

Luke A is on the second thread in his AT. I think Luke A is extremely popular. He will also be gaining most of Adams support if Adam is evicted.

[hulakula]

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

Luke's response was a snappy, "Get over it!", as I recall.

No he was trying to encourage her not to reduce herself to their level. Luke and Adam also tried to make her laugh and Adam gave her a big hug and they joked about throwing the shopping task, so Conor would have to do the shopping list on an economy budget.

[saywhatyousee]

If Luke A and Adam hadn't tried to advise her to tone it down, then folks would be saying they were game playing by letting her hang herself with the voting public. Also, I think Deana has really tried to cheer up Luke A for example when he's been down. It's called a friendship and I think those three are friends (in that house at least). I believe they have relied on eachother in there and thank goodness they had eachother because there was little support elsewhere.

[hulakula]

Originally Posted by hisdogspot

I guess Adam and Luke A are simply not 'good enough' to be Deana's friends then ?

That seems to be the the crux of this thread

It's a shame, as I think that Deana, Luke and Adam have all benefited from each others friendship.

[Linus2]

Originally Posted by hisdogspot

I guess Adam and Luke A are simply not 'good enough' to be Deana's friends then ?

That seems to be the the crux of this thread

Maybe Luke and Adam have to worship the ground she walks on to be worthy enough.?

[Trish123]

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

Why blame Deana?

Adam and Luke have both admitted that they are not being totally themselves, in order to survive. I think they would both be more popular if they had stood up to others more.

I'm not talking about Deana. My point is I have spent money to keep all 3 in. As have Luke A supporters I'm sure. Possibly some Deana supporters also.

It seems some Deana fans who have come into Adam's AT and pledged support are now on here saying that Luke A and Adam are only playing nice guys to tout for votes.

That imo stinks of hypocrisy or underhand tactics. Every vote counts. Adam is at risk and I have spent pounds on Deana. So am I a mug..... answers on a post card lol.

[Ada Rabble]

Originally Posted by hisdogspot

I guess Adam and Luke A are simply not 'good enough' to be Deana's friends then ?

That seems to be the the crux of this thread

I started the thread because I was interested how posters interpreted Adam and Lukes behaviour towards Deana.
I tend to agree that they're looking out for her and trying to point her in the right direction, its the right thing to do really, but sometimes they could be more gentle about it.

[B L Zeebub]

Originally Posted by hulakula

No he was trying to encourage her not to reduce herself to their level. Luke and Adam also tried to make her laugh and Adam gave her a big hug and they joked about throwing the shopping task, so Conor would have to do the shopping list on an economy budget.

His first response was a snappy "Get over it!"

I remember being shocked about it.

[hulakula]

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

His first response was a snappy "Get over it!"

I remember being shocked about it.

That's your interpretation but I thought he was giving good advice, we also only heard the tail end of the conversation.

[B L Zeebub]

Originally Posted by Trish123

I'm not talking about Deana. My point is I have spent money to keep all 3 in. As have Luke A supporters I'm sure. Possibly some Deana supporters also.

It seems some Deana fans who have come into Adam's AT and pledged support are now on here saying that Luke A and Adam are only playing nice guys to tout for votes.

That imo stinks of hypocrisy or underhand tactics. Every vote counts. Adam is at risk and I have spent pounds on Deana. So am I a mug..... answers on a post card lol.

If you weren't talking about Deana, who was the 'her' you referred to in your post? - Who are touting for votes? What a nasty thing to think.Maybe Luke A and Adam supporters should really look at this mentality before spending money to save her.

I'm not sure who you are calling hypocritical now, but you weren't voting for Deana to please her supporters, I presume?

[B L Zeebub]

Originally Posted by hulakula

That's your interpretation but I thought he was giving good advice, we also only heard the tail end of the conversation.

It wasn't the tail end. Adam and Luke had gone off into the garden, after the task had finished. Deana then joined them and started moaning about how she had been treated and that was Luke's first response. They both seemed like they were just as pissed off with her as the rest of the house.

[B L Zeebub]

Originally Posted by Trish123

Luke A is on the second thread in his AT. I think Luke A is extremely popular. He will also be gaining most of Adams support if Adam is evicted.

I'm sure he is popular and Adam too, my second and third choice remember.

I just wish they'd both shown some ovaries, that's all.

[hulakula]

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

It wasn't the tail end. Adam and Luke had gone off into the garden, after the task had finished. Deana then joined them and started moaning about how she had been treated and that was Luke's first response. They both seemed like they were just as pissed off with her as the rest of the house.

i don't think that was the case but wi'll have to agree to disagree. I doubt they were as pissed of as the rest of the house, otherwise they wouldn't have told Arron that it wasn't Deana's fault that they didn't get a better prize. They also wouldn't have tried to cheer her up later on by giving her a hug and trying to make her laugh.

[Linus2]

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

It wasn't the tail end. Adam and Luke had gone off into the garden, after the task had finished. Deana then joined them and started moaning about how she had been treated and that was Luke's first response. They both seemed like they were just as pissed off with her as the rest of the house.

which would be perfectly understandable. She rather looses the task than eat ham while others have to eat really disgusting things. Her behavior was a bit pathetic imo.

[Rosie50]

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

Why blame Deana?

Adam and Luke have both admitted that they are not being totally themselves, in order to survive. I think they would both be more popular if they had stood up to others more.

Or got a bit tipsy like all the rest and let themselfs go a little bit that would be more natural as they both drink but wont let themselfs go in case it would loose them BB12 but I do like them both they are just playing the game to what they think it should be played Deana to win

[Trish123]

Originally Posted by B L Zeebub

If you weren't talking about Deana, who was the 'her' you referred to in your post? - Who are touting for votes? What a nasty thing to think.Maybe Luke A and Adam supporters should really look at this mentality before spending money to save her.

I'm not sure who you are calling hypocritical now, but you weren't voting for Deana to please her supporters, I presume?

Ok once again I will explain. A certain Deana supporter stated that Luke A and Adam are only being nice to tout for votes.

This supporter wished Adam luck and offered support in his AT.
This post however would suggest a lack of conviction in the prior support.
As an Adam supporter that also likes Deana, again this week I have spent money on both Adam and Deana. To keep them hopefully together for the finals. I ultimately want Adam to win.

I feel it is slightly hypocritical to "pretend" to support Adam so Adam supporters feel camaraderie when it comes to votes to save. Yes I did vote Deana as a response to pledged support by her supporters. She is not my favourite. I fell into the hype of team outsiders. Stupidly perhaps.

I like Deana but prefer Adam. This false sense of camaraderie has led me to vote Deana again where I should maybe just have voted Adam who looks in danger. I split my votes . I can't make it any clearer than this.

[Jack On]

Originally Posted by Leeah

Is that a bad thing?? imo that's why she gets in trouble, cause she dosen't think before saying stupid things

Yes it is a bad thing because it means she is not calculated like them.