The BBC exit poll was pretty accurate. Not sure about the other channels.
Same exit poll. The three broadcasters commission the one poll so they end up with a single better sampled poll than three separate polls each with a smaller sample (and potential for error).
Same exit poll. The three broadcasters commission the one poll so they end up with a single better sampled poll than three separate polls each with a smaller sample (and potential for error).
I know it was the same exit poll but it seems the BBC expert was more accurate than the others.
But they can do that before and after the election counting? Surely the night is about the counts.
Without context the results coming in can be misleading. For example the first results to come in were all Labour victories. Without commentary a casual viewer would think they were watching a Labour landslide. The commentators were pointing out that the swing was actually very bad for Labour.
My favourite bit of the coverage was stumbling across Sky's live camera at my constituency's count.
According to the live viewer counts on Youtube I was literally the only one watching it.
Rather than a webcam style long shot it was just an unattended camera and a mic shoved in the corner of the counting room. I spent a fair bit of time eavesdropping on conversations people were having
The Daily Mail still claiming the BBC were blatantly anti Conservative. What show were they watching?
And why do they still never declare their conflict of interest? That the Daily Mail group is a major shareholder in ITN, direct competitors to the BBC? How can anyone take their endless BBC criticisms seriously when all they're doing is slagging off a competitor for commercial self interest?
I know it was the same exit poll but it seems the BBC expert was more accurate than the others.
In what respect?
I was viewing primarily on Sky. Their expert was Professor Michael Thrasher, who was part of the joint exit poll team; overviewing it for Sky (ITV also had a representative).
Professor Thrasher was confident that the exit poll was broadly correct throughout and repeatedly said that its findings couldn't exclude the possibility of a small Conservative majority.
I was actually thinking that he was sounding rather too sure of himself. I have to admit now, that he was right!
I was viewing primarily on Sky. Their expert was Professor Michael Thrasher, who was part of the joint exit poll team; overviewing it for Sky (ITV also had a representative).
Professor Thrasher was confident that the exit poll was broadly correct throughout and repeatedly said that its findings couldn't exclude the possibility of a small Conservative majority.
I was actually thinking that he was sounding rather too sure of himself. I have to admit now, that he was right!
The Daily Mail still claiming the BBC were blatantly anti Conservative. What show were they watching?
And why do they still never declare their conflict of interest? That the Daily Mail group is a major shareholder in ITN, direct competitors to the BBC? How can anyone take their endless BBC criticisms seriously when all they're doing is slagging off a competitor for commercial self interest?
So, his entire argument is because the Beeb didn't spend the night fawning over how wonderful the Conservatives were, and because Nick Robinson dared to suggest that Ed Balls might actually be a nice person away from politics, it proves that the BBC deserve to be clubbed over the head and dismantled. Real subtle!
Besides, Neil Kinnock was only given as much talking time as he got because no important declarations happened to come in (which interrupted plenty of talking heads from all the parties throughout the night). And even then, you could hear David Dimbleby coughing and spluttering throughout, as if to say "Bloody hell, will you shut up already, you windbag?!"
In one way or another, BBC, ITV, & Sky had all participated in the formulation of the exit poll, so I'd have been surprised if any of them were saying anything substantially different.
There's an informative article on the New Statesman's election website that explains the involvement of BBC, Sky & ITN/ITV in the exit poll:
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Monday 18 th may new parliament summoned
Wednesday 27 th may state opening and the queens speech
And yet the ratings show beyond doubt that the vast majority of viewers prefer the BBC coverage (as they always do).I see adverts have resumed on ITV by the way.
Why of course. The nation's favourite broadcaster. I enjoyed hugely the BBC's 20 hour marathon.
I was thinking of the ratings through the day from yesterday morning - how did GMB do against the BBC juggernaut and ITV against their main bulletins, it looked like ITV had the same degree of success as the Lib Dems.
I was thinking of the ratings through the day from yesterday morning - how did GMB do against the BBC juggernaut and ITV against their main bulletins, it looked like ITV had the same degree of success as the Lib Dems.
I reckon it was more or less the same as the all nighter before. BBC won by a mile and some. Surprised ITV did so badly. Thought they would have had at least a million viewers.
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Same exit poll. The three broadcasters commission the one poll so they end up with a single better sampled poll than three separate polls each with a smaller sample (and potential for error).
I know it was the same exit poll but it seems the BBC expert was more accurate than the others.
Without context the results coming in can be misleading. For example the first results to come in were all Labour victories. Without commentary a casual viewer would think they were watching a Labour landslide. The commentators were pointing out that the swing was actually very bad for Labour.
According to the live viewer counts on Youtube I was literally the only one watching it.
Rather than a webcam style long shot it was just an unattended camera and a mic shoved in the corner of the counting room. I spent a fair bit of time eavesdropping on conversations people were having
And why do they still never declare their conflict of interest? That the Daily Mail group is a major shareholder in ITN, direct competitors to the BBC? How can anyone take their endless BBC criticisms seriously when all they're doing is slagging off a competitor for commercial self interest?
No, all three broadcasters made the same seat prediction from the exit poll.
However, I would have rather heard more of what was being said, than a commentary over the top of it.
I was viewing primarily on Sky. Their expert was Professor Michael Thrasher, who was part of the joint exit poll team; overviewing it for Sky (ITV also had a representative).
Professor Thrasher was confident that the exit poll was broadly correct throughout and repeatedly said that its findings couldn't exclude the possibility of a small Conservative majority.
I was actually thinking that he was sounding rather too sure of himself. I have to admit now, that he was right!
The BBCs polling expert said the same thing.
So, his entire argument is because the Beeb didn't spend the night fawning over how wonderful the Conservatives were, and because Nick Robinson dared to suggest that Ed Balls might actually be a nice person away from politics, it proves that the BBC deserve to be clubbed over the head and dismantled. Real subtle!
Besides, Neil Kinnock was only given as much talking time as he got because no important declarations happened to come in (which interrupted plenty of talking heads from all the parties throughout the night). And even then, you could hear David Dimbleby coughing and spluttering throughout, as if to say "Bloody hell, will you shut up already, you windbag?!"
The ratings for Thursday night/Friday morning are on the ratings page. 4.4m on BBC. 897k on ITV. Channel 4's alternative election night had 1.11m :
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a646286/bbc-ones-general-election-coverage-tops-thursday-ratings-with-44m.html
I had no reason to doubt it, as I am an expert in my own living room! ;-):D
There's an informative article on the New Statesman's election website that explains the involvement of BBC, Sky & ITN/ITV in the exit poll:
Election 2015: What is the exit poll and how does it work?
http://www.may2015.com/featured/election-2015-what-is-the-exit-poll-and-how-does-it-work/
Monday 18 th may new parliament summoned
Wednesday 27 th may state opening and the queens speech
Why of course. The nation's favourite broadcaster. I enjoyed hugely the BBC's 20 hour marathon.
I was thinking of the ratings through the day from yesterday morning - how did GMB do against the BBC juggernaut and ITV against their main bulletins, it looked like ITV had the same degree of success as the Lib Dems.