Has Glenn ever had a scene with Paul's wife yet?
They were brother and sister in Hollyoaks and that's always in my head whenever I see them in this! lol
Trouble is, they're usually watching the wrong thing (bit like Inspector Clueso) Now if they'd put a tail on Katie when she went to meet Spector in the wine bar it would have led them stright to him and demolished her "alibi" at the same time.
Has Glenn ever had a scene with Paul's wife yet?
They were brother and sister in Hollyoaks and that's always in my head whenever I see them in this! lol
Didn't they just have a scene tonight where they visited her to question Paul's alibi?
Why I don't like this series so much is that he's no longer hiding in plain sight like he was in series 1.
There's one thing that they haven't explained is what happened to his job since he's been back from Scotland. Presumably he's no longer going into work every day, otherwise they'd be tailing him. So how was he referred to take on Annie Brawley's case?
must admit the quote of the episode: Cantona: "why are women emotionally and spiritually so much stronger than men". ...Stella: "maleness is a kind of birth defect". Well a bit harsh but I'm not a scientist
Why I don't like this series so much is that he's no longer hiding in plain sight like he was in series 1.
There's one thing that they haven't explained is what happened to his job since he's been back from Scotland. Presumably he's no longer going into work every day, otherwise they'd be tailing him. So how was he referred to take on Annie Brawley's case?
I don't think he was referred. He just turned up at the hospital and claimed to have been.
Never mind Scully, Leslie Nielson and the police squad would have got him by episode 3. I wonder if the Belfast serious crimes unit watch this ?
Nah, they're all watching The Missing, and taking the piss out of the French police!
And despite what this would lead you to think, Belfast is a relatively small coummunity- that lesbian kiss will be news from Malone to Cultra by tomorrow moring. What will Archie's husband say?
Why I don't like this series so much is that he's no longer hiding in plain sight like he was in series 1.
There's one thing that they haven't explained is what happened to his job since he's been back from Scotland. Presumably he's no longer going into work every day, otherwise they'd be tailing him. So how was he referred to take on Annie Brawley's case?
He left his job in the first series. He got that woman we first saw him counselling in episode 1 to call the police on her husband for domestic violence. Spector's boss found out and laid into Spector for going beyond his counselling remit. They had an argument and Spector resigned.
He left his job in the first series. He got that woman we first saw him counselling in episode 1 to call the police on her husband for domestic violence. Spector's boss found out and laid into Spector for going beyond his counselling remit. They had an argument and Spector resigned.
Which begs the question, where did the Alice Munroe Trust get his details and wouldn't anyone counselling her have to be vetted carefully?
I watched this on RTE on Sunday night and was so disappointed with it. What a great first series which focused on Spector's double life, Stella leading the police investigation and Belfast as one of the most important characters.
This episode really has stretched the lines of credibility. Belfast is not a big place- a serial killer running around without a care in the world, having dinner in restaurants, breaking into a detective's room in a 5 star hotel, presumably with plenty of access to cash, holding a hostage, turning off the lights of his car and retreating from the crime scene, counselling the victim in hospital though he had been disciplined at work and then resigned- all this while the police have released an e-fit to the media, have his name, identity and voice.
That scene in the hotel seemed to be there just to give Archie Panjabi a 'talking point' scene- how many ways are there to get rid of an unwanted man hitting on you in a hotel without the lead investigator, whose private life has already been splashed on the front page, coming to kiss you?
Stella was convinced that Katie was lying for him but didn't have her tailed at all, due to cutbacks presumably, yet is staying in a 5 star hotel?!
Which begs the question, where did the Alice Munroe Trust get his details and wouldn't anyone counselling her have to be vetted carefully?
IIRC, he got the letter before all that happened. He just chose not to follow up on it in the first series while he was dealing with the aftermath of the Kay murder and Annie's attempted murder.
Nah, they're all watching The Missing, and taking the piss out of the French police!
And despite what this would lead you to think, Belfast is a relatively small coummunity- that lesbian kiss will be news from Malone to Cultra by tomorrow moring. What will Archie's husband say?
A small community yet they can't find a serial killer everyone is supposedly looking for.
Good job they're not in London. They'd still be looking for him in 5 years time.
Oh well. It's all gone a bit silly hasn't it. Spector getting access to Stella's room so easily, Cantona turning up out of the blue and making a pass at her, the frankly risible pseudo-lesbian stuff that's been shoe-horned in, Katie breaking into the house and taking photos of herself, that woman leaving a car outside with a baby in it holding the car keys, the police 'finding' the tyre treads in the mud, Spector turning up at the scene in his stolen car, turning off the headlights, and Stella just standing there, Spector walking into a restaurant, looking exactly like his Photofit and no-one batting an eyelid, etc. etc. etc. It's all depends on too many far-fetched conveniences.
In response to the criticisms about the show's realism and in particular about Belfast being a small community.
For me as a viewer, the realism is not such a big deal in this case (while I can be quite picky and critical of a drama's realism, I don't expect absolute accuracy. I only need enough to make me believe in the setting and the story being told. For instance, I loathe coincidences in any show particularly if they come from nowhere and are just plumped there w/o explanation or reason); I'm more a keen watcher of the unravelling psychology of the drama and its characters (Stella, Spector and Katie). Also if Belfast is that such of a small community where your next neighbour can soonest hear you fart as smell them (I have never visited), then I'm of the mind that for realism's sake not many murder dramas could be set in that place, if accuracy is of primary importance. It will over the minute the perp killed the person (unless it was set in real time).
So while I understand the valid criticism from some posters, the realism probably had to take second place in the drama to its psychological themes. That said I can also understand why the show ought to have concluded in the first series using Belfast's small community mindset as its background. But again this wouldn't solve the show's central premise: how would a series spanning just 5 episode address Spector's psychological machinations in a way that would satisfy the viewer? We can be quite a picky critical bunch, us viewers:D
Are you both trying to figure out the screwed up psychological workings of a homonal schoolgirl with a crush a married family man-cum-serial killer more than 12 years her senior? Good luck:D
how/when did he get out of Stella's hotel room? wasn't he in the wardrobe the whole time Cantana was there?
I presumed he was hiding in the wardrobe when Cantana entered the room. When Stella took him into the bathroom to clean him up, Spector was able to sneak out of the room.
ah yes, that would make sense! I think I was expecting to hear a door close behind him when he left and that Stella would hear that too and realise someone had been in the room ... also, why did her seeing that image on her PC make her jump up and get her gun - why did seeing that lead her to believe that there was someone in the room?
ah yes, that would make sense! I think I was expecting to hear a door close behind him when he left and that Stella would hear that too and realise someone had been in the room ... also, why did her seeing that image on her PC make her jump up and get her gun - why did seeing that lead her to believe that there was someone in the room?
The wallpaper on her laptop had been changed from what it was before. We saw her use the laptop just before she went to the bar, so she knew that someone else had used it in the time she was away.
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Trouble is, they're usually watching the wrong thing (bit like Inspector Clueso) Now if they'd put a tail on Katie when she went to meet Spector in the wine bar it would have led them stright to him and demolished her "alibi" at the same time.
There's one thing that they haven't explained is what happened to his job since he's been back from Scotland. Presumably he's no longer going into work every day, otherwise they'd be tailing him. So how was he referred to take on Annie Brawley's case?
Ah. Right. didn't see the first part of tonights episode (I do Tivo it so I'll watch it at some point) so it that happened I missed it.
I don't think he was referred. He just turned up at the hospital and claimed to have been.
And despite what this would lead you to think, Belfast is a relatively small coummunity- that lesbian kiss will be news from Malone to Cultra by tomorrow moring. What will Archie's husband say?
He had a letter from Alice Munroe trust asking him to counsel Annie
Ah OK - I missed that.
He left his job in the first series. He got that woman we first saw him counselling in episode 1 to call the police on her husband for domestic violence. Spector's boss found out and laid into Spector for going beyond his counselling remit. They had an argument and Spector resigned.
Which begs the question, where did the Alice Munroe Trust get his details and wouldn't anyone counselling her have to be vetted carefully?
Maybe he forged the letter. It wouldn't be the worst thing he's done.
This episode really has stretched the lines of credibility. Belfast is not a big place- a serial killer running around without a care in the world, having dinner in restaurants, breaking into a detective's room in a 5 star hotel, presumably with plenty of access to cash, holding a hostage, turning off the lights of his car and retreating from the crime scene, counselling the victim in hospital though he had been disciplined at work and then resigned- all this while the police have released an e-fit to the media, have his name, identity and voice.
That scene in the hotel seemed to be there just to give Archie Panjabi a 'talking point' scene- how many ways are there to get rid of an unwanted man hitting on you in a hotel without the lead investigator, whose private life has already been splashed on the front page, coming to kiss you?
Stella was convinced that Katie was lying for him but didn't have her tailed at all, due to cutbacks presumably, yet is staying in a 5 star hotel?!
Ah, yes, I remember now. Thank you.
IIRC, he got the letter before all that happened. He just chose not to follow up on it in the first series while he was dealing with the aftermath of the Kay murder and Annie's attempted murder.
A small community yet they can't find a serial killer everyone is supposedly looking for.
Good job they're not in London. They'd still be looking for him in 5 years time.
For me as a viewer, the realism is not such a big deal in this case (while I can be quite picky and critical of a drama's realism, I don't expect absolute accuracy. I only need enough to make me believe in the setting and the story being told. For instance, I loathe coincidences in any show particularly if they come from nowhere and are just plumped there w/o explanation or reason); I'm more a keen watcher of the unravelling psychology of the drama and its characters (Stella, Spector and Katie). Also if Belfast is that such of a small community where your next neighbour can soonest hear you fart as smell them (I have never visited), then I'm of the mind that for realism's sake not many murder dramas could be set in that place, if accuracy is of primary importance. It will over the minute the perp killed the person (unless it was set in real time).
So while I understand the valid criticism from some posters, the realism probably had to take second place in the drama to its psychological themes. That said I can also understand why the show ought to have concluded in the first series using Belfast's small community mindset as its background. But again this wouldn't solve the show's central premise: how would a series spanning just 5 episode address Spector's psychological machinations in a way that would satisfy the viewer? We can be quite a picky critical bunch, us viewers:D
Nearly 20 years! He's 35.
Stella's hotel room is huge. Paul could have hidden out for days in there.
No sign of the shifty hotel manager.
I presumed he was hiding in the wardrobe when Cantana entered the room. When Stella took him into the bathroom to clean him up, Spector was able to sneak out of the room.
The wallpaper on her laptop had been changed from what it was before. We saw her use the laptop just before she went to the bar, so she knew that someone else had used it in the time she was away.