It could technically be true that the BBC want to get rid of Moffat, but I'd take anything the Daily Mail says with a pinch of salt...or a bucket load.
"Only 4.6 million people have tuned in to some episodes, and though the BBC insists the resurrected drama has eight million viewers, even this is well down from the ten million when the show was revived in 2005."
This of course is complete BS. 4.6 is ignoring time shifting and the BBC aren't "insisting" the drama is getting 8 million viewers; they're stating a fact (well, it's actually closer to 7 million, but anyway). And the show received 10 million viewers on the first episode ONLY in 2005. Every other episode was around 7/8 million.
A shameless distortion of the facts. Just what you'd expect from the Daily Mail.
Actually if we are getting technical then the show has more than 8 million fans, just 8 million tvs, as a lot of households have more than one person at a time....;)
Daily mail person tries to get into the BBC studio and fails.
They bump into the cleaner and get his opinions of the show and the state of it and print it as an official story and breaking news. -_-
More like:
"There's lots of Doctor Who attention at the moment with the finale coming up - time to jump on the bandwagon and stir up controversy at the same time. Google 'doctor who i hate steven moffat everything is rubbish'."
There are so many things the DM deliberately ignores to make its Anti BBC points.
1 Doctor Who has had the headwind of the ratings Juggernaut of BGT on ITV to battle with, and also the FA Cup final, Anything which is shown against these will suffer.
2. Iplayer views and BBC 3 repeat's are ignored completely, whilst its ok to add ITV1 + ITV1+1 for BGT, its not a level playing field as journalists ignore the very high catch up with Doctor Who.
3 The inconsistent time of DW on a Saturday is hurting it, we was SCD get hurt in 2011 with random start times but in 2012 did very well with a set start time.
4 DW is still becoming more and more popular world wide and has a cult following.
5 The overall figures show DW holding up well against a majority of shows falling off in Spring.
6 All popular newspapers obsession with anything DW, plot lines new doctors, assistants would indicate they know is very popular otherwise they would devote so much newspaper coverage to it.
It could technically be true that the BBC want to get rid of Moffat, but I'd take anything the Daily Mail says with a pinch of salt...or a bucket load.
"Only 4.6 million people have tuned in to some episodes, and though the BBC insists the resurrected drama has eight million viewers, even this is well down from the ten million when the show was revived in 2005."
This of course is complete BS. 4.6 is ignoring time shifting and the BBC aren't "insisting" the drama is getting 8 million viewers; they're stating a fact (well, it's actually closer to 7 million, but anyway). And the show received 10 million viewers on the first episode ONLY in 2005. Every other episode was around 7/8 million.
A shameless distortion of the facts. Just what you'd expect from the Daily Mail.
There's also this posted at the end of last month. Apologies, I don't know if it's been posted on here, or how much credibility it has (the original blog has been deleted) but it's all very interesting...
I wonder how DM's circulation figures have been going the last few years? :rolleyes:
The general decline in newspaper circulations and the lack of take up on pay wall editions will be the reason of course. But then they never apply the same journalistic standards to themselves or let the truth or a fair interpretation of the truth get in the way of a good story.
Who would seriously pay any newspaper any attention at all these days?
I wonder how DM's circulation figures have been going the last few years? :rolleyes:
The general decline in newspaper circulations and the lack of take up on pay wall editions will be the reason of course. But then they never apply the same journalistic standards to themselves or let the truth or a fair interpretation of the truth get in the way of a good story.
Who would seriously pay any newspaper any attention at all these days?
The paper version I expect is down, like others. But MailOnline is now the worlds biggest newspaper website - it says so Here - so it must be true;)
Yes the Daily Wail will always, always twist the knife in dear old auntie Beeb - but for me the Moffat years have been less than stellar and I'd welcome a change at the top.
There's also this posted at the end of last month. Apologies, I don't know if it's been posted on here, or how much credibility it has (the original blog has been deleted) but it's all very interesting...
I've never heard any of that before so I'm dubious as to its credibility.
Regardless, the BBC need to do something to restore Doctor Who to its former 13 episode per annum glory.
I really hope they don't cancel Doctor Who. I can't see them doing so any time soon, but if they do, I will cry.
There's also this posted at the end of last month. Apologies, I don't know if it's been posted on here, or how much credibility it has (the original blog has been deleted) but it's all very interesting...
Sadly, I can believe the description of Moffat as being bad tempered and ruthless. That impression came over from his time on twitter and other interviews. I sincerely hope the rest of the article is hyperbole though.
If Moffat is any of those things, it's only because he cares so much for the show and gets so invested in his projects that he has little patience for error. (IMO)
Some of Moffat's ideas haven't been great, but I challenge the DM to find me a show runner who's made 100% perfect decisions. All in all, he is a real asset to the show.
There's also this posted at the end of last month. Apologies, I don't know if it's been posted on here, or how much credibility it has (the original blog has been deleted) but it's all very interesting...
I have trouble believing anything about Moffat written on ONTD. If one would believe the articles/comments on there about him then surely Moffat must be the Devil himself presonified. :rolleyes:
EDIT: Even better the article originally comes from the person who confirmed themselves to be a troll with the whole 50th Anniversary spoilers thing.A very credible source indeed.
No one who looks at the facts can deny that the ratings themselves are consistent and that this series is doing just as good as any of the previous lot. However, am I the only one who feels as though the show has lost its cultural power? I remember the build up to the Series Four finale, the buzz and news coverage was hyperbolic. Yet despite this episode being called The Name Of The Doctor, there is a lack of real news/tabloid interest?
No one who looks at the facts can deny that the ratings themselves are consistent and that this series is doing just as good as any of the previous lot. However, am I the only one who feels as though the show has lost its cultural power? I remember the build up to the Series Four finale, the buzz and news coverage was hyperbolic. Yet despite this episode being called The Name Of The Doctor, there is a lack of real news/tabloid interest?
It's probably because it is not a 2 parter.
We get a massive cliff hanger ending like the Doctor regenerating, it gives something for everyone to talk about.
No one who looks at the facts can deny that the ratings themselves are consistent and that this series is doing just as good as any of the previous lot. However, am I the only one who feels as though the show has lost its cultural power? I remember the build up to the Series Four finale, the buzz and news coverage was hyperbolic. Yet despite this episode being called The Name Of The Doctor, there is a lack of real news/tabloid interest?
In fairness, the Series Four finale had a lot packed in to it and a cliffhanger for the penultimate which pushed it up massively.
10 seemingly regenerating was cause for an extra buzz. But NOTD is still getting the usual coverage. Tabloid previews. Interviews. Speculation. Magazine covers.
No one who looks at the facts can deny that the ratings themselves are consistent and that this series is doing just as good as any of the previous lot. However, am I the only one who feels as though the show has lost its cultural power? I remember the build up to the Series Four finale, the buzz and news coverage was hyperbolic. Yet despite this episode being called The Name Of The Doctor, there is a lack of real news/tabloid interest?
The cultural impact is far less.
Normally this is the point when a TV series is cancelled, however Dr Who can regenerate itself very easily.
But a botched series regeneration would kill it dead. Moffat would not be the best choice to restart the series.
We all know how much the Daily Mail just LOVES the BBC, so I'm sure this is absolutely 100% true... :rolleyes:
If, however, this is true, why do the BBC dislike Steven Moffat? What, aren't there enough episodes featuring farting aliens and Daleks every series finale? Or is it the fact that he isn't referencing Rose every other episode?
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Overnights are only important to commercial TV stations such as ITV, Channel 4 and 5.
So that advertisers can place their adverts, in the advert breaks of the highest shows.
Advertisers don't want people to DVR or watch itv-player....
Viewers would just fast forward past their very expensive adverts!
i know they did try to come up with ways of making their ads work even when being Fast forwarded, didn't hear anything since
"It's all Freema Agyeman's fault!"
"Only 4.6 million people have tuned in to some episodes, and though the BBC insists the resurrected drama has eight million viewers, even this is well down from the ten million when the show was revived in 2005."
This of course is complete BS. 4.6 is ignoring time shifting and the BBC aren't "insisting" the drama is getting 8 million viewers; they're stating a fact (well, it's actually closer to 7 million, but anyway). And the show received 10 million viewers on the first episode ONLY in 2005. Every other episode was around 7/8 million.
A shameless distortion of the facts. Just what you'd expect from the Daily Mail.
More like:
"There's lots of Doctor Who attention at the moment with the finale coming up - time to jump on the bandwagon and stir up controversy at the same time. Google 'doctor who i hate steven moffat everything is rubbish'."
1 Doctor Who has had the headwind of the ratings Juggernaut of BGT on ITV to battle with, and also the FA Cup final, Anything which is shown against these will suffer.
2. Iplayer views and BBC 3 repeat's are ignored completely, whilst its ok to add ITV1 + ITV1+1 for BGT, its not a level playing field as journalists ignore the very high catch up with Doctor Who.
3 The inconsistent time of DW on a Saturday is hurting it, we was SCD get hurt in 2011 with random start times but in 2012 did very well with a set start time.
4 DW is still becoming more and more popular world wide and has a cult following.
5 The overall figures show DW holding up well against a majority of shows falling off in Spring.
6 All popular newspapers obsession with anything DW, plot lines new doctors, assistants would indicate they know is very popular otherwise they would devote so much newspaper coverage to it.
There's also this posted at the end of last month. Apologies, I don't know if it's been posted on here, or how much credibility it has (the original blog has been deleted) but it's all very interesting...
The general decline in newspaper circulations and the lack of take up on pay wall editions will be the reason of course. But then they never apply the same journalistic standards to themselves or let the truth or a fair interpretation of the truth get in the way of a good story.
Who would seriously pay any newspaper any attention at all these days?
The fact it is an anonymous source makes it even more dodgy.
A worst it is a bitter individual who just has a grudge against Moffat and wants to cause trouble.
The paper version I expect is down, like others. But MailOnline is now the worlds biggest newspaper website - it says so Here - so it must be true;)
Yes the Daily Wail will always, always twist the knife in dear old auntie Beeb - but for me the Moffat years have been less than stellar and I'd welcome a change at the top.
I've never heard any of that before so I'm dubious as to its credibility.
Regardless, the BBC need to do something to restore Doctor Who to its former 13 episode per annum glory.
I really hope they don't cancel Doctor Who. I can't see them doing so any time soon, but if they do, I will cry.
Sadly, I can believe the description of Moffat as being bad tempered and ruthless. That impression came over from his time on twitter and other interviews. I sincerely hope the rest of the article is hyperbole though.
If Moffat is any of those things, it's only because he cares so much for the show and gets so invested in his projects that he has little patience for error. (IMO)
Some of Moffat's ideas haven't been great, but I challenge the DM to find me a show runner who's made 100% perfect decisions. All in all, he is a real asset to the show.
This Dr Who "story" is obviously completely made up.
I have trouble believing anything about Moffat written on ONTD. If one would believe the articles/comments on there about him then surely Moffat must be the Devil himself presonified. :rolleyes:
EDIT: Even better the article originally comes from the person who confirmed themselves to be a troll with the whole 50th Anniversary spoilers thing.A very credible source indeed.
It's probably because it is not a 2 parter.
We get a massive cliff hanger ending like the Doctor regenerating, it gives something for everyone to talk about.
This is not, so no one knows what to expect.
Therefore less buzz and speculation.
In fairness, the Series Four finale had a lot packed in to it and a cliffhanger for the penultimate which pushed it up massively.
10 seemingly regenerating was cause for an extra buzz. But NOTD is still getting the usual coverage. Tabloid previews. Interviews. Speculation. Magazine covers.
ETA: Banks got in there.
The cultural impact is far less.
Normally this is the point when a TV series is cancelled, however Dr Who can regenerate itself very easily.
But a botched series regeneration would kill it dead. Moffat would not be the best choice to restart the series.
If, however, this is true, why do the BBC dislike Steven Moffat? What, aren't there enough episodes featuring farting aliens and Daleks every series finale? Or is it the fact that he isn't referencing Rose every other episode?