But sales are even worse than when TTT was released so will affect it again and will probably suffer with similar promotion to Loud with "Cockiness" being the new "Cheers". I could actually see people buying TTT for the new single similar to WFL and LOUD.
You could be right, but I think that with some good promotion and great single choices, she could sell well. The definition of "well" depends on the circumstances and the state of the market. If the sales don't increase during holiday season, selling 2 million ww would be the smash album of the year!
That its urban? because the EP she is releasing is all rap to try and win over the hip-hop audience again to buy her album as her sales have been disappointing so far.
Wait WHAT EVEN WAS THE POINT OF COCKINESS REMIX AND PERFORMANCES THEN?
My guess is it was a last attempt to try and get people (mostly urban audiences) to buy TTT. However the remix isnt even on it so overall not much although it could smash on urban at the same time whilst Diamonds smashes WW and on pop radio.
You could be right, but I think that with some good promotion and great single choices, she could sell well. The definition of "well" depends on the circumstances and the state of the market. If the sales don't increase during holiday season, selling 2 million ww would be the smash album of the year!
Good point its just a big drop from Loud but if she promotes it well (which she usually doesn't) then im sure it could be a big success as long as the public isnt sick of her. Also it looks like it will be a mostly dance and that doesn't tend to sell albums and dance is kind of one the way out gradually now but we'll see.
I didn't know about David Guetta and Nicki Romero! But today's announcements came out of the blue, so we hadn't got a lot of official information beforehand. She's probably worked with many producers that haven't been announced. Obviously Stargate, but I'd also like Soundz (he produced 'Skin'), Da Internz ('Birthday Cake') and Bangladesh ('Cockiness'). Calvin Harris would be great too, but I think he said they haven't worked together on the new album yet.
There's also that BURNS guy who's a close associate of Calvin Harris!
Perhaps Calvin is lying to us on purpose so it's all a big surprise!
I'd love Da Internz, Soundz on board again. I hope she recruits Hit-Boy one day too I like his productions.
Bangladesh please!! He's amazing.
The Dream will probably be involved in the song-writing again, Rihanna seems to like working with him :cool:
Good point its just a big drop from Loud but if she promotes it well (which she usually doesn't) then im sure it could be a big success as long as the public isnt sick of her. Also it looks like it will be a mostly dance and that doesn't tend to sell albums and dance is kind of one the way out gradually now but we'll see.
Personally, I think Rihanna needs to make an album full of pop and r 'n' b / hip hop tracks, because that's her lane! Not techno, not dance, not electro! 'GGGB' (8 million) and 'Loud' (6.5 million) remain her 2 best selling albums (far commercially superior than all her other albums) and these are her only 2 albums that are solely pop/ r'n'b. The european club music/ trance influences on 'WFL' / 'WHYB' are amazing, but 'Only Girl', 'WMN' and 'S&M' sold 'Loud' much more effectively than these tracks sold 'TTT'.
Personally, I think Rihanna needs to make an album full of pop and r 'n' b / hip hop tracks, because that's her lane! Not techno, not dance, not electro! 'GGGB' (8 million) and 'Loud' (6.5 million) remain her 2 best selling albums (far commercially superior than all her other albums) and these are her only 2 albums that are solely pop/ r'n'b. The european club music/ trance influences on 'WFL' / 'WHYB' are amazing, but 'Only Girl', 'WMN' and 'S&M' sold 'Loud' much more effectively than these tracks sold 'TTT'.
Rated R didn't have one single dance/techno song...
Btw, has anyone heard anything about the DVD of the Loud Tour being released?... 2012 is over soon...
Rated R didn't have one single dance/techno song...
Btw, has anyone heard anything about the DVD of the Loud Tour being released?... 2012 is over soon...
Neither did it have as much pop as 'GGGB' and 'Loud' did, which is why it underperformed. It's still my favorite Rihanna album regardless though! Amazing from start to finish! :)I hope the new album lives up to those standards. She's said she would consider making another album in the vein of 'RR', so I'm hoping it materializes soon.
I'm agreeing with the comments about the LOUD Tour DVD! We were confirmed we were getting one in 2012! I'm still opting for a November/December release.
We really need a Greatest Hits from Rihanna. Its going to be the pop collection of the decade. So surprised it hasn't been put out already.
As I've said before in other threads, it should be called a Singles Collection or something rather than a Greatest Hits. Maybe a title like Rihanna: The Hits So Far would work. It could have all her biggest hits (including collaborations) and a couple of new songs.
As I've said before in other threads, it should be called a Singles Collection or something rather than a Greatest Hits. Maybe a title like Rihanna: The Hits So Far would work. It could have all her biggest hits (including collaborations) and a couple of new songs.
Well, maybe that's what we're getting this year, we don't know yet Def Jam are building hype and they tweeted that they have a big announcement coming on Thursday, so tomorrow we'll know if it's a full length album, a re-release or a GH collection. I wouldn't mind another studio album though. She can release her 'Singles Collection' in 2013, after she wraps up the 'Diamonds' tour and then take a long overdue break
Well, maybe that's what we're getting this year, we don't know yet Def Jam are building hype and they tweeted that they have a big announcement coming on Thursday, so tomorrow we'll know if it's a full length album, a re-release or a GH collection. I wouldn't mind another studio album though. She can release her 'Singles Collection' in 2013, after she wraps up the 'Diamonds' tour and then take a long overdue break
And give us that Loud Tour DVD. And have the production team cook up a Diamonds world Tour DVD for 2014 to keep us happy whislt Rihanna chills out in the sun for a lengthy period of time
Can't wait for this Gonna be a worldwide smash, although she does never seem to take a break all her albums are good they always have 5+ decent tracks on it soo bring on this era
I think it will be an uptempo dance pop single, especially judging by the lyrics. 'WFL' part 2, but with a harder beat . She hinted at a more anthemic feel and sound for the new album, so I'm curious to see how that's going to sound.
The only confirmed producers so far are RedOne, Swedish House Mafia and Chase and Stauts. I wonder if the lead single is produced by any of them.
If it's gonna be WFL part 2 I'm looking forward to it. I loved that song.
The single has been delayed. One of Def Jam's reps called it a "false start" Apparently, Def Jam France messed up! :mad:
However, the single is still expected to be released soon (definitely in 2012 ) and it's been implied that Rihanna will start making official announcements soon on her Facebook page :cool:
The single has been delayed. One of Def Jam's reps called it a "false start" Apparently, Def Jam France messed up! :mad:
However, the single is still expected to be released soon (definitely in 2012 ) and it's been implied that Rihanna will start making official announcements soon on her Facebook page :cool:
Damn it! At least it's coming!
Yay, I loved the cryptic announcements and little challenges she put on her Facebook to unlock album/single info last year. It was a cool strategy :cool:
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That its urban? because the EP she is releasing is all rap to try and win over the hip-hop audience again to buy her album as her sales have been disappointing so far.
My guess is it was a last attempt to try and get people (mostly urban audiences) to buy TTT. However the remix isnt even on it so overall not much although it could smash on urban at the same time whilst Diamonds smashes WW and on pop radio.
Good point its just a big drop from Loud but if she promotes it well (which she usually doesn't) then im sure it could be a big success as long as the public isnt sick of her. Also it looks like it will be a mostly dance and that doesn't tend to sell albums and dance is kind of one the way out gradually now but we'll see.
There's also that BURNS guy who's a close associate of Calvin Harris!
Perhaps Calvin is lying to us on purpose so it's all a big surprise!
I'd love Da Internz, Soundz on board again. I hope she recruits Hit-Boy one day too I like his productions.
Bangladesh please!! He's amazing.
The Dream will probably be involved in the song-writing again, Rihanna seems to like working with him :cool:
Rated R didn't have one single dance/techno song...
Btw, has anyone heard anything about the DVD of the Loud Tour being released?... 2012 is over soon...
TTT may not have been as big as LOUD, but it had better songs on it!
I do wish the tour dvd isnt scrapped likes!
As I've said before in other threads, it should be called a Singles Collection or something rather than a Greatest Hits. Maybe a title like Rihanna: The Hits So Far would work. It could have all her biggest hits (including collaborations) and a couple of new songs.
And give us that Loud Tour DVD. And have the production team cook up a Diamonds world Tour DVD for 2014 to keep us happy whislt Rihanna chills out in the sun for a lengthy period of time
Any more news on it?
If it's gonna be WFL part 2 I'm looking forward to it. I loved that song.
There's a rumour that the new single is written and produced by Sia, Benny Blanco and Stargate!!
Sia also tweeted something about Monday, so maybe it will turn out to be true
So do i, i want her to take a break.
However, the single is still expected to be released soon (definitely in 2012
Damn it! At least it's coming!
Yay, I loved the cryptic announcements and little challenges she put on her Facebook to unlock album/single info last year. It was a cool strategy :cool: