Feminists probably feel that it is a return to the 16th century when women had to wear a scold's bridle by law. They also had to go on a ducking stool. I am not sure what crimes lead women to this punishment?
Feminists probably feel that it is a return to the 16th century when women had to wear a scold's bridle by law. They also had to go on a ducking stool. I am not sure what crimes lead women to this punishment?
And doesn't it just revel in it. Did you know bikini waxes existed in those times too? HBO must have thought all their christmases had come at once when they discovered George RR Martin.
Afaik, Downton Abbey doesn't have graphic sex, nudity and violence in every other scene (in fact there was outrage at the Downton rape scene iirc, when the writers decided to go "HBO" for some unknown reason). And no one has been fired from those shows for refusing to do nude scenes. Or forced to shave their pubic hair to attract a younger audience.
12 years has a point, a message to say, no one gets brutally beaten and then suddenly a dragon appears to save the day. People don't go and watch it just to see who gets killed off or raped in the next episode, like they do with the twisted trash that is Game Of Thrones.
And quite possibly the biggest factor, those shows aren't appealing to kids like Game Of Thrones.
But i'm guessing the DVDs of Game Of Thrones will remain on shelves by the end of the day.
Wow you have a real bee in your bonnet when it comes to Game of Thrones don't you? were you tied up and forced to watch it against your will or something!
The scold's bridle is also referred to in the book Three Men in a Boat by Jerome K. Jerome. He refers to one on display in the church at Walton on Thames, joking that a shortage of iron, or possibly iron not being strong enough to curb a woman's tongue, was why it was no longer in use.
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Though primarily used on women, the Burgh Records of Scotland's major towns reveal that the branks were at times used on men as well: "Patrick Pratt sall sit … bound to the croce of this burgh, in the brankis lockit" (1591 Aberd. B Rec. II. 71) / "He shall be put in the branks be the space of xxiiij houres thairafter" (1559 (c 1650) Dundee B. Laws 19. )
When the branks was placed on the "gossiper's" head, they could be led through town to show that they had been committed an offence or scolded too often. This was intended to humiliate them into "repenting" their "riotous" actions. A spike inside the gag prevented any talking since any movement of the mouth could cause a severe piercing of the tongue.[6] When wearing the device, it was impossible for the woman either to eat or speak.[10]
Yes, but when was the last time you met a feminist with a sense of humour?
Odd thing to say. If you take feminism at its basic meaning of believing in equality between genders I would suspect that the vast majority of both women and men in this country are feminists.
Yes, it was a brutal punishment for women who were considered as gossips or nags. The gag piece would could do permanent damage. It was also said that the women would be paraded around the town as a form of humiliation and fruit would be thrown at them. The frightening thing is that their husbands were the ones that approved of this punishment whilst his wife would be in court.:o
Odd thing to say. If you take feminism at its basic meaning of believing in equality between genders I would suspect that the vast majority of both women and men in this country are feminists.
Well, there are feminists and then there are Feminists
Odd thing to say. If you take feminism at its basic meaning of believing in equality between genders I would suspect that the vast majority of both women and men in this country are feminists.
I would guess that a far higher percentage of both men and women believe in equality of the sexes, than those that identify themselves as feminists.
I would say that people who found the 'joke' funny don't have a sense of humour because it's witless and crass. I wouldn't ban it - just let people who buy it embarrass themselves.
In a spectacular display of misogyny, a headline in today’s Telegraph informs us that ‘[n]agging could cost the lives of hundreds of men’.
Of course, male socialisation and male entitlement contribute massively to male lazyitis. From a young age, many girls are expected to help out around the house in a way that boys are not. Girls are taught from an early age that housework is Our Job. Research carried out by the Institute for Public Policy Research shows that just one in ten of married men does an equal amount of cleaning and washing as his wife. This is appalling. Do men somehow produce 90% less mess than women? Do they eat 90% less?
Articles such as this one in The Telegraph are damaging because of the inherent implication that women should just shut up and get on with the household chores. It normalises inequality within heterosexual relationships. It says: housework is a woman’s work, a wifely duty.
How many times have you heard a female friend or colleague say that her male partner is ‘babysitting’ tonight? In some cases, the act of a man looking after his own children appears to be so rare that one wonders why he is being praised for stepping up to the mark for once (presumably after some ‘nagging’) instead of being challenged over his dereliction of duty. A mother would never be described as ‘babysitting’ her own children – looking after them is her job and hers alone, see?
I would say that people who found the 'joke' funny don't have a sense of humour because it's witless and crass. I wouldn't ban it - just let people who buy it embarrass themselves.
It strikes me that that article is filled with as many sexist generalisations as the nagging article it is criticising. It seems it's perfectly acceptable to paint a picture of men as lazy good for nothings eh?
I would have got one. But only so I can gag my boyfriend when he's watching the World Cup
Forgot it was world cup year
I'll have to do my best to try to avoid it but can't even go out without it been plastered all over I don't think there is anything I find more dull than Football I'd even sooner watch Soaps or reality TV (and I'd take been put into Jigsaw style trap before watching either of those)
I'll have to do my best to try to avoid it but can't even go out without it been plastered all over I don't think there is anything I find more dull than Football I'd even sooner watch Soaps or reality TV (and I'd take been put into Jigsaw style trap before watching either of those)
Lol I wish I had the choice! Sky Sports News on a continual loop pretty much in my house!
Odd thing to say. If you take feminism at its basic meaning of believing in equality between genders I would suspect that the vast majority of both women and men in this country are feminists.
It strikes me that that article is filled with as many sexist generalisations as the nagging article it is criticising. It seems it's perfectly acceptable to paint a picture of men as lazy good for nothings eh?
The most vocal are often the most hypocritical when it comes to this, and supposed 'equality' for some is a one way street.
The gag is a pretty rubbish, not all that funny 'joke' item no more, no less and the outrage over it is embarrassing to see.
The most vocal are often the most hypocritical when it comes to this, and supposed 'equality' for some is a one way street.
The gag is a pretty rubbish, not all that funny 'joke' item no more, no less and the outrage over it is embarrassing to see.
True and as a female comedian I find it difficult to believe she's never done an anti bloke joke either. Most female comedians I've seen seem to rely heavily on jokes about us useless, clueless men and belittling/generalising the male population hence why I don't find women comedians funny.
If a woman is sexist about men were supposed to laugh and take it on the chin or get labelled miserable grumps with no sense of humour. If it's the other way round we end up being labelled sexists. Equality only seems to work one way.
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Isn't a bridle something for a horse?
Wow you have a real bee in your bonnet when it comes to Game of Thrones don't you?
It is. but back in 15th and 16 century they used to punish women with a contraption that was like a head cage that was locked.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scold%27s_bridle
Yes, but when was the last time you met a feminist with a sense of humour?
Thats really creepy.
haha
Odd thing to say. If you take feminism at its basic meaning of believing in equality between genders I would suspect that the vast majority of both women and men in this country are feminists.
Yes, it was a brutal punishment for women who were considered as gossips or nags. The gag piece would could do permanent damage. It was also said that the women would be paraded around the town as a form of humiliation and fruit would be thrown at them. The frightening thing is that their husbands were the ones that approved of this punishment whilst his wife would be in court.:o
Well, there are feminists and then there are Feminists
I would guess that a far higher percentage of both men and women believe in equality of the sexes, than those that identify themselves as feminists.
Anyway, good article on nagging here:
http://everydayvictimblaming.com/submissions/re-telegraph-article-with-links-this-time/
I would have got one. But only so I can gag my boyfriend when he's watching the World Cup
Forgot it was world cup year
I'll have to do my best to try to avoid it but can't even go out without it been plastered all over I don't think there is anything I find more dull than Football I'd even sooner watch Soaps or reality TV (and I'd take been put into Jigsaw style trap before watching either of those)
Lol I wish I had the choice! Sky Sports News on a continual loop pretty much in my house!
What an appropriate forum name. 😊
The most vocal are often the most hypocritical when it comes to this, and supposed 'equality' for some is a one way street.
The gag is a pretty rubbish, not all that funny 'joke' item no more, no less and the outrage over it is embarrassing to see.
True and as a female comedian I find it difficult to believe she's never done an anti bloke joke either. Most female comedians I've seen seem to rely heavily on jokes about us useless, clueless men and belittling/generalising the male population hence why I don't find women comedians funny.
If a woman is sexist about men were supposed to laugh and take it on the chin or get labelled miserable grumps with no sense of humour. If it's the other way round we end up being labelled sexists. Equality only seems to work one way.