The octogenarian, in order to get some publicity for the show is pitching James against Joe. As some of you know I am a Matt fan and they went down the same route with James and Matt, but that is besides the point. I never voted for Joe, but he was a warm up act for a ballet I went to see at the O2 and he was good. This was just after Joe won Popstar to Opera Star, owing to his voice and talent and that was after he won X Factor. He has recorded five albums, has a single out with Dionne Warwicke and even got Beyonce interested in his voice, owing to one of her concerts. What has James Arthur done so far? Apart from the one charity single, or perhaps you might include him allegedly wearing socks and hoodies whilst bedding his hookers for a red top special. I guess they need to drum up some publicity for his new album? When is the release date?
The octogenarian, in order to get some publicity for the show is pitching James against Joe. As some of you know I am a Matt fan and they went down the same route with James and Matt, but that is besides the point. I never voted for Joe, but he was a warm up act for a ballet I went to see at the O2 and he was good. This was just after Joe won Popstar to Opera Star, owing to his voice and talent and that was after he won X Factor. He has recorded five albums, has a single out with Dionne Warwicke and even got Beyonce interested in his voice, owing to one of her concerts. What has James Arthur done so far? Apart from the one charity single, or perhaps you might include him allegedly wearing socks and hoodies whilst bedding his hookers for a red top special. I guess they need to drum up some publicity for his new album? When is the release date?
Well.... James Arthur so far has probably outsold joe internationally with the one single which I believe has charted in around 15 countries and being in the top 10 with pretty much all those countries and basically having more international success that joe has had in his whole career.
Also the whole "what has James Arthur done so far besides the charity single" part..... Well again after his winners single joe released nothing until September (as most XF winners do) so you cannot use that as an argument. If you must know though he's performed at a few shows internationally, recorded in L.A with top producers and involvement of the Jay Z and even been doing some collaborations with a few artists as well.
Please don't be condescending, it's not attractive. I wonder why you even felt the need to mention Joe if all you were doing was defending your artist.
Sorry, didn't mean to be. Anyway, seeing as James apparently saying something against Joe was the topic of conversation, I think talking about Joe is perfectly reasonable.
And I agree with everything Jackel has said. James record is being produced by some of the best in the business.
Don't we all wish we were this good at karaoke singing?
I suppose James Arthur has got that singer songwriter thing going on, but so did Matt Cardle, so let's not be over confident & see how things turn out for him... Not that Matt is doing terribily bad, but I think that things did not turn out the way people had thought they would when he won.
They are 2 totally different artists, just because they both play guitars does not make them similar.
Probably best to wait for James' debut, he hasn't done too badly with his winners single, surpassed most people's expectations.
Sorry, didn't mean to be. Anyway, seeing as James apparently saying something against Joe was the topic of conversation, I think talking about Joe is perfectly reasonable.
And I agree with everything Jackel has said. James record is being produced by some of the best in the business.
Apology accepted thanks. Well if James has worked with the type of calibre of people that Joe has on his albums I'll be really interested to hear his music and discuss it with you on here.
Can you really say he's wrong though I mean Joe is a nice guy but he's hardly setting the charts a light . He had a good voice but he never seemed like a popstar to me.
Ok I don't how this happened but Matt's gotten involved and now it's become a Matt vs James thread...again.
Just shows what an expert Louis Walsh is at stirring people up. Best we all ignore him, listen to our own favourite artist and have a glass of something refreshing! Chilled glass of wine for me.
Can you really say he's wrong though I mean Joe is a nice guy but he's hardly setting the charts a light . He had a good voice but he never seemed like a popstar to me.
You have no idea have you? Joe is much, much more than a chart singer. He is duetting with Dionne Warwick in a new globablly released (on 27 May) single for World Hunger Day. He is joining Adam Lambert in the US for a concert. Some people can be very successful without having a chart record!
He is making a decent living doing what he loves. Charts aren't the be all and end all you know! He does a lot of corporate work which we only hear about second-hand - private parties and such.
You have no idea have you? Joe is much, much more than a chart singer. He is duetting with Dionne Warwick in a new globablly released (on 27 May) single for World Hunger Day. He is joining Adam Lambert in the US for a concert. Some people can be very successful without having a chart record!
He is making a decent living doing what he loves. Charts aren't the be all and end all you know! He does a lot of corporate work which we only hear about second-hand - private parties and such.
I bet Joe is in it for the long haul and will be around for many years to come, unlike some who hit their peak and burn out (courtesy of their record company).
I was not happy about louis walsh and james arthur saying nasty stuff about joe. He is a nice man what do you think guys and girls? i think louis walsh and james are bullies
Why do people use that term all the time, how is he being bullied. He's an adult man and two people have said they don't much like his style of singing. Get a grip:rolleyes:
Why do people use that term all the time, how is he being bullied. He's an adult man and two people have said they don't much like his style of singing. Get a grip:rolleyes:
If Louis doesn't like Joe's singing, then he's allowed to say so. It doesn't make him a bully. Joe isn't a child.
It doesn't make him a bully but it does make him a massive hypocrite, given how much he praised Joe when he was on the show. But then, that's nothing new.
I know joe is not a child but louis should and be careful not to be 2 nasty because joe family will have him
I think Joe's family have better things to do than worry about anything Louis Walsh has to say and probably wouldn't even dignify it with a response. Maybe you should do the same
You have no idea have you? Joe is much, much more than a chart singer. He is duetting with Dionne Warwick in a new globablly released (on 27 May) single for World Hunger Day. He is joining Adam Lambert in the US for a concert. Some people can be very successful without having a chart record!
He is making a decent living doing what he loves. Charts aren't the be all and end all you know! He does a lot of corporate work which we only hear about second-hand - private parties and such.
Good for him but all that what he is doing wont last as to make it the music industry now days you need to do well in the charts that's just how it is .
Good for him but all that what he is doing wont last as to make it the music industry now days you need to do well in the charts that's just how it is .
You seem to have a very narrow definition of 'making it' in the music industry. There are many different avenues for acts who don't have top 10 chart success. If Joe is making enough money to stay financially afloat, whilst continuing to make and perform music, he has still 'made it' in a more open perspective.
Look at it this way: in a big company, there will be the CEO at the top. They represent the A-list popstars who are making more money than any other popstars out there. Beneath that you have the senior managers who represent the B-list popstars , those that have fairly decent chart success most of the time. Is that where the company stops? No, of course not. There are still people who make a perfectly reasonable wage, lower down the hierachy, usually by working hard and grafting their way through things. That's nothing to be ashamed of, and often those people can have slightly more freedom with what they do because they are not as answerable to the investors of the company. There isn't as much pressure on them to hit massive, unrealistic targets. They probably have a healthier, happier outlook to life than those who have to work endlessly for, admittedly, big pay-offs.
Joe is fine. He's doing what he wants to. He has nothing to worry about provided he continues to earn a wage from his music.
I would say not. It pretty much went global which had nothing to do with any charities.
But it's looking more likely that Impossible will be his biggest hit with the way he's going right now, it's a shame I did like him but if the music is good I will buy it.
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Well.... James Arthur so far has probably outsold joe internationally with the one single which I believe has charted in around 15 countries and being in the top 10 with pretty much all those countries and basically having more international success that joe has had in his whole career.
Also the whole "what has James Arthur done so far besides the charity single" part..... Well again after his winners single joe released nothing until September (as most XF winners do) so you cannot use that as an argument. If you must know though he's performed at a few shows internationally, recorded in L.A with top producers and involvement of the Jay Z and even been doing some collaborations with a few artists as well.
Sorry, didn't mean to be.
And I agree with everything Jackel has said. James record is being produced by some of the best in the business.
They are 2 totally different artists, just because they both play guitars does not make them similar.
Probably best to wait for James' debut, he hasn't done too badly with his winners single, surpassed most people's expectations.
Apology accepted thanks.
This.
But James didn't say anything?
Just shows what an expert Louis Walsh is at stirring people up. Best we all ignore him, listen to our own favourite artist and have a glass of something refreshing! Chilled glass of wine for me.
Personally, I find James voice dreary as hell - I reckon he could make a very good living singing at funerals if he fails with his record.
I know String but Louis walsh does need to say sorry to joe
You have no idea have you? Joe is much, much more than a chart singer. He is duetting with Dionne Warwick in a new globablly released (on 27 May) single for World Hunger Day. He is joining Adam Lambert in the US for a concert. Some people can be very successful without having a chart record!
He is making a decent living doing what he loves. Charts aren't the be all and end all you know! He does a lot of corporate work which we only hear about second-hand - private parties and such.
I bet Joe is in it for the long haul and will be around for many years to come, unlike some who hit their peak and burn out (courtesy of their record company).
Bullies?
Why do people use that term all the time, how is he being bullied. He's an adult man and two people have said they don't much like his style of singing. Get a grip:rolleyes:
Because louis walsh don't like him i think
If Louis doesn't like Joe's singing, then he's allowed to say so. It doesn't make him a bully. Joe isn't a child.
It doesn't make him a bully but it does make him a massive hypocrite, given how much he praised Joe when he was on the show. But then, that's nothing new.
I know joe is not a child but louis should and be careful not to be 2 nasty because joe family will have him
Lol, why are all Joe's family retarded?
I think Joe's family have better things to do than worry about anything Louis Walsh has to say and probably wouldn't even dignify it with a response. Maybe you should do the same
You seem to have a very narrow definition of 'making it' in the music industry. There are many different avenues for acts who don't have top 10 chart success. If Joe is making enough money to stay financially afloat, whilst continuing to make and perform music, he has still 'made it' in a more open perspective.
Look at it this way: in a big company, there will be the CEO at the top. They represent the A-list popstars who are making more money than any other popstars out there. Beneath that you have the senior managers who represent the B-list popstars , those that have fairly decent chart success most of the time. Is that where the company stops? No, of course not. There are still people who make a perfectly reasonable wage, lower down the hierachy, usually by working hard and grafting their way through things. That's nothing to be ashamed of, and often those people can have slightly more freedom with what they do because they are not as answerable to the investors of the company. There isn't as much pressure on them to hit massive, unrealistic targets. They probably have a healthier, happier outlook to life than those who have to work endlessly for, admittedly, big pay-offs.
Joe is fine. He's doing what he wants to. He has nothing to worry about provided he continues to earn a wage from his music.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/x-factor-james-arthur-slams-1478604
Matt's response:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/matt-cardle-fights-back-after-1496948
Joe's response:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/playlist/view/309543/Joe-McElderry-tells-James-Arthur-to-get-real/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-star-celebrity+%28Daily+Star+%3A%3A+Celebrity+Feed%29
(If of course you believe everything that's written in newspapers).
James Arthur's sales of Impossible may of course have something to do with it being a charity single.
I would say not. It pretty much went global which had nothing to do with any charities.
But it's looking more likely that Impossible will be his biggest hit with the way he's going right now, it's a shame I did like him but if the music is good I will buy it.