Census Enumerator - A job worth doing?

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The Government is advertising in local papers for Census Enumerators - seems fairly decent, £750 for 75 hours over 9 weeks and you can do it outside of your normal job.

Just wondering if anyone has any experience doing this, their thoughts on the job and whether it's worth doing for a bit of extra cash?

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  • Sally7Sally7 Posts: 1,843
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    I worked for the Census team as an address checker last year. Not same role, but I do know a bit of what your job would entail. Basically you will be delivering and retrieving batches of forms from what are classed as 'complex establishments'...ie not normal households....and helping people within these establishments to complete the forms, or showing their staff how to help those in the establishment complete the forms. Examples are military bases, care homes, prisons, YOI's, sheltered housing etc etc. If your normal job has rigid hours then you will find it difficult, as a lot of the work has to be done at times when the people who run these places are at work and can be available for appointments. You could be working a few hours each day, or not at all on some days, most certainly sat mornings, some evenings, but an evening could be, say, 3pm till 7pm as opposed to after 5pm.
  • cat's whiskascat's whiskas Posts: 877
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    I've applied for a Census Collector post.

    Do you mean a "Special Enumerator"?
    https://censusjobs.co.uk/fe/tpl_census01.asp?newms=info2
  • quatroquatro Posts: 2,886
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    I've done this -a long time ago. Getting the forms out was easy enough, but getting them back was the hard bit.
    If you can catch the people in, they may not have filled in the forms, a lot want you to help them with it - its a long form and very time consuming and eats up the petrol.
    The time it took getting all the forms back meant the 'wage' wasn't as attractive as it initially appeared to be. I went into houses where the occupant was weird, and it was a bit worrying to be truthful.
    I was lucky - I had an area where the houses were relatively close together, but still had loads of long drives and walking in between the houses. It was very tiring all told. I wouldn't do it again.
  • GlenGlen Posts: 12,076
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    Sally7 wrote: »
    but I do know a bit of what your job would entail. Basically you will be delivering and retrieving batches of forms from what are classed as 'complex establishments'...ie not normal households....
    As far as I'm aware, and from what it says on the job description, the enumerators deliver and collect the forms from all addresses in their area.
    I've applied for a Census Collector post.

    Do you mean a "Special Enumerator"?
    https://censusjobs.co.uk/fe/tpl_census01.asp?newms=info2
    No, Census Enumerator.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 6,259
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    Cheers guys.

    The advert I saw was the one Glen has linked to, Census Enumerator - involving delivery, collection and collation of forms as well as helping people if need be .etc.

    Thanks sally7, striing and quatro - this is similar to the feedback ive had from other people... perhaps not as appealing as it first sounds! Plus, I spose I'd get taxed to buggery for it being a 'second job'.
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    Ok! Sorry about that...
  • ErlangErlang Posts: 6,619
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    You might need a thick skin.

    My Dad did the last census, okay, but took a lot of abuse and one guy tried to fill him in.
    My Dad was in his sixties at the time and you couldn't meet gentler guy.

    Apparently in the late 1800's the Shepton Mallet enumerator had to be escorted by Police for safety.
  • Sally7Sally7 Posts: 1,843
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    OP, I just noticed from the links that you are in Scotland, apologies:o

    The Scottish census will be done a slightly different way, and the roles are therefor different. In England there will be a break with tradition in that forthcoming Census forms will be posted out, not hand delivered. People can then post them back or opt to do it online. People will have to fill it in following guidelines enclosed, and there will be help sites etc online.

    Address checkers have already identified places where it will be harder to ensure each person receives their form (multiple occupancies like halls of residence etc), or places where mail has to go be screened before it reaches the individual (prison, armed forces) or places where individuals may have difficulty completing their form (elderly in care homes, asylum seekers in hostels etc) . Census Enumerators (in England) are then tasked with the role of taking forms to, collecting forms from, and helping these establishments in the first instance.

    If a normal household doesn't return their form within the alloted time it will then be followed up by a Census Collector(different role), who will establish why it hasnt been filled in and help people complete it. If they still don't complete it this will be followed up by a Non Compliance Officer (different role again).

    TBH, as an address checker it was hard enough to get people to confirm certain addresses (95% of which could be done without knocking on doors) without having to engage with people face to face over a form they don't want to fill in :p ! You have no choice which areas you work unless you can get a colleague to swop parts of their patch for yours, and I covered a lot of dodgy areas! A lot of it will not be local, and I ended up with a catchement extending about 50 mile radius from where I lived, though the first third of the workload was within a city half hours drive away.....but it may as well have been anywhere as it was all unfamiliar territory....

    As an overview for anyone who is thinking of doing this: Basically if you are hand delivering forms you will be covering similar territory to that we covered in the first place as address checkers. You will be walking at least 3 miles a day, plus driving to and from your 'patches'. It was hard work, sometimes frustrating, sometimes boring, but the bonus was we were doing it May-Aug, so at least we were out in the sun all day and the walking kept me fit:). There is a huge amount of map reading, planning routes, paperwork so you need to be well organised and very flexible regarding your hours. There are streets where you can do a hundred houses in an hour, but the following day it may take you 9 hours just to do 50 farms spread out over the moors ! You will constantly be trying to keep abreast of targets you have to reach, as you will have regular team meetings to collect/hand in stuff, and online commitments to submit data.

    I did it for 16 weeks and by the time it got to the end I was getting a bit jaded :p It's not hard work, but you do need to be motivated and used to working on your own. It wasn't hard for me as I have been self employed all my life and used to working flexible hours, but you WILL have to work several evenings and weekends to meet the targets. That said, if you don't want to work on a Tues, or go do something else Friday afternoon, you can:). You will be expected to be your own boss and trusted with your own expense and time sheets, on an honesty basis, so you are not exploited. It wasn't a huge wage, but it was a relatively good way of earning a couple of hundred pounds a week for 4 months which flew past, and it paid for our family holiday in Turkey :D
  • d0lphind0lphin Posts: 25,353
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    The Chief wrote: »
    Cheers guys.

    The advert I saw was the one Glen has linked to, Census Enumerator - involving delivery, collection and collation of forms as well as helping people if need be .etc.

    Thanks sally7, striing and quatro - this is similar to the feedback ive had from other people... perhaps not as appealing as it first sounds! Plus, I spose I'd get taxed to buggery for it being a 'second job'.

    I've done a similar job for the council with the Register of Electors, a few years ago, when in my area they used to get you to drop off the form and collect it (they get you to post it back nowadays or do it online) or get people to fill it in on the doorstep.

    It was when my kids were younger and I needed the money. tbh I wouldn't do it as a second job because firstly you'll get hammered with the tax and secondly it's time consuming.
    Oh and the area I did had a lot of farms and therefore farm dogs who enjoyed scaring the living daylights out of me!:eek:

    Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but I'm just being honest.

    I am still on the council's list for polling clerk though! Not for the money but it's good fun and you get to meet people in the village you haven't see for a long time!:D
  • Sally7Sally7 Posts: 1,843
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    d0lphin wrote: »
    I've done a similar job for the council with the Register of Electors, a few years ago, when in my area they used to get you to drop off the form and collect it (they get you to post it back nowadays or do it online) or get people to fill it in on the doorstep.

    It was when my kids were younger and I needed the money. tbh I wouldn't do it as a second job because firstly you'll get hammered with the tax and secondly it's time consuming.
    Oh and the area I did had a lot of farms and therefore farm dogs who enjoyed scaring the living daylights out of me!:eek:Sorry if that's not what you wanted to hear but I'm just being honest.

    I am still on the council's list for polling clerk though! Not for the money but it's good fun and you get to meet people in the village you haven't see for a long time!:D

    Lol, yes :D! My heart used to sink when I opened a data book and saw I was doing farms!

    You knew it was going to be a tough day when you turned the corner of an unknown street to see any of the following in no particular order !

    dogs roaming
    mattresses in gardens
    boarded up front doors
    unlit alleyways leading to back to backs
    kids in school uniforms hanging out windows at 11am

    :p
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 274
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    Erlang wrote: »
    You might need a thick skin.

    My Dad did the last census, okay, but took a lot of abuse and one guy tried to fill him in.
    My Dad was in his sixties at the time and you couldn't meet gentler guy.

    Apparently in the late 1800's the Shepton Mallet enumerator had to be escorted by Police for safety.

    That really depresses me. :mad:

    Why would people be giving people like your dad abuse. Are they that lazy in that they couldn't be bothered to fill out a form?

    Just saw an advert on DS advertising a job collecting censuses in the Toxteth area of Liverpool... err no thank you :p
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 12,613
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    I wanted to do this but in my area they only want people who drive. I don't drive.
  • SmithmanSmithman Posts: 6,184
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    I did it back in 1981 :eek: (and I think in those days I got around £110 for it). It turned out to be more time-consuming that I had imagined, difficult to get through it all with a full-time job as well, and I would have found it even more difficult without OH's help once or twice. I remember some folks who wanted to chat for hours (and one who wanted me to sit and have a G&T:D) and some who were particularly nasty and difficult. It wasn't something I'd have done a second time.
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