Labour lay out plans for disabled people - 'A single benefit to match persons needs'
barrcode88
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/jul/10/labour-radical-reform-disabled-people?CMP=twt_fd
To be honest, it looks more workable than the current Tory ideology, one that I think would benefit disabled people (physically or mentally) greatly, if done right and with the right intentions.
To be honest, it looks more workable than the current Tory ideology, one that I think would benefit disabled people (physically or mentally) greatly, if done right and with the right intentions.
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whatever toryAl is going on about i don't know
Anyone who argues against this would not doubt like to see a continuation of the harassment and victimisation of disabled people by the likes of ATOS.
Get signed off once, never need to worry about getting your state money for disability again. Just sign an X next to labour and away you go.
in tory language expertly surmised by toryAl they equate that as trying to gain votes
they stoop low these tories, I'll give them that
Can you not read?
I am all for Byrnes plan. It makes perfect sense to award the right amount of money to your personal need. I want disabled people to be able to live a full a life as possible. But whilst Autism, depression, and other minor disablements exist, they shouldn't be so easily and so readily diagnosed. It is easy to diagnose an ailment rather than try and establish the cause and try and help to rectify the problem. So, once the term "disabled" is formally and finally defined, I am happy for this idea of Labours to go through. Otherwise it will be yet another case of people going on sick indefinetely because of something that is not really likely to affect your work performance.
How many times do you see people on disability benefit who are walking fine, talking fine, shopping, out in restaurants having a meal? Yet these people can get the same amount of money as people who can't do all or any of those things. It's disgusting.
Disablity and health, are not the same, illness and health, someone can be healthy but still have a disablity.
it's not one of the best health services if you want to live long. It's not one of the best if you want value for money. it is however great if you want palliative care. We are second to none.
Sorry it just sounds like a glib meaningless sound bite to me? One benefit based on need isn't that what universal credit was supposed to be? Just bored of silly edx2 sound bites!
They're not out of work benefits, people work and still claim it.
I am one of your walking and talking disabled.
I walk with a stick and have a wheelchair when needed,I don't walk more than around ten metres because the pain you don't see.Or the twenty five pills a day I need for the pain.
You seem to be the type of person that if we are not seen in a wheelchair all the time we are not disabled.
There are more disabilities out there that don't need a wheelchair 100% of the time.What is needed is more understanding.
100% agree with you on this.
Hm, wasn't ESA brought in with good intentions. I guarantee this will be as awful as the current system and they will employ Atos to administer it.
How dare disabled folk talk
How dare disabled folk walk
How dare disabled folk go shopping
How dare disabled folk go for some food in a restaurant
god bless them all
jack
You are very wrong to think that autism is a minor disability, and it cannot be compared to depression. It is a neurological disorder in it's own right.
Please. No one is born perfect. Everyone has some sort of problem or another. Physical, mental or otherwise. We all learn to deal with it.
True but there's disabled and there's disabled. I know people with disabilities and /or health issues and the weird thing is it's people with the lesser ones who seem to be the worst offenders when it comes to hiding behind them.
Matching a persons needs is admirable. But firstly, how do you define what those needs are without ATOS style assessments?
One of my customers is in a wheelchair (he has MS) and is struggling to use his hands. He still works everyday. He runs a travel agents specialising in disability travel.
Other customers have assorted health issues that they claim prevent them from being able to do anything (despite always being well enough to make bingo three times a week without fail and go on weekly daytrips to the seaside during the summer).
Who's the needier person?
Secondly, how much money are they talking about and how would it be funded?
Admirable soundbites are one thing - but without any meat on the bone to chew over that's all they are.
Tell that to my 8 year old granson, who needs people to do everything for him, as he cannot feed himself undress himself and needs 24/7 care looking he has a loving family. Because people like you have no understanding. And believe the the disabled are just a money burden