People tend to refer to Housing Association homes as Council Houses as it's quicker and everyone understands what it means anyway, even if there's a technical difference, it's still social housing.
If there weren't a shortage of affordable housing I wouldn't have a problem with the more well off living in social housing. In fact, rather than turfing people out of their homes, I think we should "just" (I know it's not that simple) have more social housing. At the moment, new social housing tenants are put on short term tenancies initially, so that they can be "turfed out" if their circumstances change, whereas those who secured their tenancies up to a few years ago would have been offered long term or life long tenancies.
No i do not think it is immoral what is immoral IMO is councils selling property at knock down rates often to people who let them out in the private rented sector.
Do not waste your time with that one, as soon as he asked for names I thought 'cuckoo', it's not acceptable for anyone to continue to live in social housing at rent rates which are below market rate when they can buy or rent privately if their salary/wealth exceeds a certain level.
Do you know how many people are avoiding tax in this country via ISAs? I'm avoiding paying tax of about £300 a year. Not a lot, but better in my pocket than the government's.
Most people don't own their home either. The bank does.
If you're referring to a mortgage, the mortgagee (the person loaning the money) doesn't own the property; they have a charge ( a mortgage) against the property as security for the loan.
I don't mind to be honest. As long as he's paying the full market rental rate, then the profit the council can make off that can be used to build more social housing.
Bob Crow does not have a council property he rents from a Housing Association not a council.
Housing Association rents can be ruinous - as bad as private ones. I rented a HA house a few years ago. The woman in it before me had just moved down the road into a council house, after being on the waiting list for ages, for one. The newbuild HA houses were much nicer, but the rents nearly double the council houses on the next street. Everyone I knew in that little cul de sac was on the council waiting list, or saving up the money to buy.:D
I'd rather have him living there, paying the full amount of asking rent from his hard earned [and taxed] wages instead of some benefit sponging mother of 6 who has never worked a day in her life.
Sorry but that's just how I feel. Apologies if you fall in to this category and that offends you, no offence intended.
He doesn't have to live near Tory types. He has enough money to buy a property where ever he likes. Unfortunately a family who are living in an overcrowded B and B whilst waiting on the homeless housing list don't have that choice.
Don't blame the tenant blame the lack of house building and especially social housing.
No i rent from a housing association the rents are at a premium compared to council owned property another poster was right these are not subsidised as such,its just unlike private renting you are not paying a premium IE somebody's mortgage for them.
Maybe he could, but his tenancy agreement allows him to live there as long as he likes. He's obviously got his reasons, probably to make him look like a 'man of the people' as part of the support he gets from the union and its members.
In the district council area where I live, there are 3,500 families/individuals on the housing register, waiting for social housing. There are 97,500 people in the district. If a household averages 2.5 people, that's around 8% of the population needing homes.
If that's the case in the (so-called) affluent south-east, I'd hazard a guess that nationally there are millions of people waiting for secure homes.
Of course, the council may be pretending and making up figures, but I doubt it.
Oh the outrage bob crow prefers to reside in a council house he has no doubt stayed in for
years and although he could more than likely afford to stay in the middle class suburbs he
he's happy where he is whats the problem??
You know maybe he prefers the kinda people you find on the estate where he lives and doesn't
fancy being surrounded by those tory voting types who start threads like
He doesn't have to live near Tory types. He has enough money to buy a property where ever he likes. Unfortunately a family who are living in an overcrowded B and B whilst waiting on the homeless housing list don't have that choice.
He has the money to buy where he likes have you seen prices in south woodford obviously not.
Perhaps rather then piling the pressure on one person why the government laugh at us,:mad: a more pertinent question might be why cannot a government that has no trouble flogging council properties off at huge discounts, cannot build or replace the sold ones,trurn the problem back of the government not current tenants now there is a thought.
Nah, he's probably got a place in Florida, with golf club membership thrown in.
OMG! I bet he's got his own parking space and a discount on sandwiches in the staff canteen too, the freeloading oik :eek:
Apart from the condescending 'know your place' tone of this thread, there also seems to be a lot of resentment towards someone successful... which is odd as that's what left-wingers are often accused of.
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If there weren't a shortage of affordable housing I wouldn't have a problem with the more well off living in social housing. In fact, rather than turfing people out of their homes, I think we should "just" (I know it's not that simple) have more social housing. At the moment, new social housing tenants are put on short term tenancies initially, so that they can be "turfed out" if their circumstances change, whereas those who secured their tenancies up to a few years ago would have been offered long term or life long tenancies.
No it doesn't mean that much to me. And?
both are immoral.
Do not waste your time with that one, as soon as he asked for names I thought 'cuckoo', it's not acceptable for anyone to continue to live in social housing at rent rates which are below market rate when they can buy or rent privately if their salary/wealth exceeds a certain level.
I agree both are immoral
Good
Over and out.
Awh thanks. I will take it as a compliment though. Over and out
Undoubtedly. Travel, subsistence, entertainment, car, you name it.
Do you know how many people are avoiding tax in this country via ISAs? I'm avoiding paying tax of about £300 a year. Not a lot, but better in my pocket than the government's.
Probably at the level at which you could afford to buy your own house.
If you're referring to a mortgage, the mortgagee (the person loaning the money) doesn't own the property; they have a charge ( a mortgage) against the property as security for the loan.
hmm nice little personal fiefdom he has going there
Housing Association rents can be ruinous - as bad as private ones. I rented a HA house a few years ago. The woman in it before me had just moved down the road into a council house, after being on the waiting list for ages, for one. The newbuild HA houses were much nicer, but the rents nearly double the council houses on the next street. Everyone I knew in that little cul de sac was on the council waiting list, or saving up the money to buy.:D
Sorry but that's just how I feel. Apologies if you fall in to this category and that offends you, no offence intended.
Don't blame the tenant blame the lack of house building and especially social housing.
No i rent from a housing association the rents are at a premium compared to council owned property another poster was right these are not subsidised as such,its just unlike private renting you are not paying a premium IE somebody's mortgage for them.
100% right.:mad:
Silly question:o
In the district council area where I live, there are 3,500 families/individuals on the housing register, waiting for social housing. There are 97,500 people in the district. If a household averages 2.5 people, that's around 8% of the population needing homes.
If that's the case in the (so-called) affluent south-east, I'd hazard a guess that nationally there are millions of people waiting for secure homes.
Of course, the council may be pretending and making up figures, but I doubt it.
OMG! I bet he's got his own parking space and a discount on sandwiches in the staff canteen too, the freeloading oik :eek:
Apart from the condescending 'know your place' tone of this thread, there also seems to be a lot of resentment towards someone successful... which is odd as that's what left-wingers are often accused of.