Starting to think Ronnie killed Lucy...
Just a few things that have come to mind which makes me wonder whether Ronnie is the one who killed Lucy.
1. DTC said that Ronnie was to become a more villainous character yet she hasn't done anything that warrants that label (killing Carl doesn't make her a villain). Maybe she has already done something terrible but for obvious reasons it hasn't come to light yet.
2. As soon as the news about the Lucy storyline broke, everyone immediately wrote off Stacey and Ronnie as possible suspects because they were both taking time out filming other projects this year. A great method of trying to deflect attention away from the real culprit in a mystery storyline is by having them off-screen for a lot of the aftermath. Ronnie isn't really on anyone's radar at the moment.
3. Having someone like Abi murder Lucy would be completely ridiculous and out of character. Whether or not the killing was calculated or an accident, Lucy's body was moved so the killer has to be someone who doesn't have that much of a conscience - Ronnie. She's killed Carl and then there was the baby swap saga. She's a psychopath and a sociopath. Her killing Lucy isn't ridiculous by any means.
4. Lucy could quite easily remind Ronnie of Danielle. They looked very alike and if Ronnie was to be the one identified as Lucy's killer, it would be very poignant for that reason.
But then there's also various reasons for many characters on the square so...
1. DTC said that Ronnie was to become a more villainous character yet she hasn't done anything that warrants that label (killing Carl doesn't make her a villain). Maybe she has already done something terrible but for obvious reasons it hasn't come to light yet.
2. As soon as the news about the Lucy storyline broke, everyone immediately wrote off Stacey and Ronnie as possible suspects because they were both taking time out filming other projects this year. A great method of trying to deflect attention away from the real culprit in a mystery storyline is by having them off-screen for a lot of the aftermath. Ronnie isn't really on anyone's radar at the moment.
3. Having someone like Abi murder Lucy would be completely ridiculous and out of character. Whether or not the killing was calculated or an accident, Lucy's body was moved so the killer has to be someone who doesn't have that much of a conscience - Ronnie. She's killed Carl and then there was the baby swap saga. She's a psychopath and a sociopath. Her killing Lucy isn't ridiculous by any means.
4. Lucy could quite easily remind Ronnie of Danielle. They looked very alike and if Ronnie was to be the one identified as Lucy's killer, it would be very poignant for that reason.
But then there's also various reasons for many characters on the square so...
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The cynic in me would say his comments were a distraction just to make people think it might be Ronnie when its someone else.
Carl's murder wasn't calculated. He forced himself upon her and turned around for a second, if she hadn't killed him he would probably have raped her. It was self defence.
Oh, okay.
Quality analysis.
Thank you Mr Mouse. I feel I have been touched by the paw of forum royalty.
Think about it.
I just believe she's the only character who would be cold enough to dump Lucy's body after killing her. Anyone else would have surely cracked up with guilt by now.
It helps that we've barely seen Ronnie at all in the aftermath - out of sight, out of mind. There's too much that could easily link up between Lucy's murder and Carl's for me. The drugs were a big factor in why Ronnie wanted Roxy to stay the hell away from Carl. Then there was all the phone business with Phil. She basically planted evidence in Phil's possession and done a runner. Flash forward about 6 months later and she's left a gun in the very same place for Phil to sort out. A gun that only Sharon and Linda know of its whereabouts right now. I would suspect that gun was very much a big part of Lucy's death and Ronnie's tried to disassociate herself with it. Just like she's tried to disassociate herself from her partner-in-crime Charlie - but that would be harder to do now she's pregnant with his child...
I would agree with this, except about the gun being involved in Lucy's death - Lucy died of a head injury. She wasn't shot. Still, if it's Ronnie, it would tie the Lucy and Carl storylines together nicely - the Carl killing seems abandoned otherwise.
You don't have to shoot someone to kill them with a gun. She could have been hit over the head with it.
That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that.
Killing Carl was self defence though. He was the one who lured her to the Arches by pretending he kidnapped Roxy and Amy. Then he tried to force himself on her so she slammed the car boot on him.
Carls murder wasnt calculated at all, she went to the Arches because he told her he had Amy and Roxi, it was self defence IMO and she was ill at the time she took Kat and Alfies baby
I would be very surprised if Ronnie turned out to be Lucys killer
Brilliant post.
I think everything would make so much sense if Ronnie was the killer - DTC did actually say "it would all make sense" when the killer is revealed.
Although I'm slightly worried about what this would mean for her future if she is the killer. She would surely have to leave otherwise the storyline wouldn't be tied up properly. Plus she wouldn't be able to live on the square ever again. Unless she doesn't get caught and she is only found out once Sam Womack chooses to leave.
Further more to this. The only reason Sam Womack has been off screen is because she had to go film Mount Pleasant. It wasn't storyline related.
But anyway. The reason that Ronnie is pregnant with Charlie's baby and the reason they slept together on Good Friday is because at some point she will have to give him an alibi as he will become a suspect or vice versa. ;-) anyone who becomes a suspect before Feb is not the killer. That is the relevance of their scene in the episode.
Im totally with you on this
Phil, Sharon and Roxy have all lied and kept quiet to protect Ronnie's secret that she's killed Carl. Imagine the fallout it would have for them if Ronnie did turn out to be Lucy's killer - they'd feel very guilty that their keeping quiet would have essentially allowed Ronnie to kill again.
I think Charlie Cotton is also her partner-in-crime and they dumped Lucy's body together. As we know, his introduction to Walford is very shady and Nick's ''death'' is yet another secret ready to be exposed - but I'm going to predict that Ronnie is also part of this plan too. If she's responsible for Lucy's murder then surely she's in on the Nick story too - it surely isn't a coincidence that in Charlie's first scene on the show, the one where Dot is informed that Nick is dead, that Ronnie just so happened to be visiting her.
This story is going to culminate for the show's big 30th next February. This Ronnie theory would connect the remaining EE vets Ian, Sharon, Dot and Phil in a storyline that has elements the show made its name for - gritty aspects including murder, prostitution, drugs etc. But they're telling it in a way that show's EE's strength - every successful storyline over the past 30 years has been the result of lies and secrets and this one is no different.
I think Aleks is the dealer