How ironic that they've recently been running an advert about how ballsy they are and that they were "born risky"...
Without being rude, are we 100% certain that they actually cut the episode? It's possible that it seemed stronger on initial viewing that it actually was...
Virginina and her ex-husband have sex - he "goes down" on her.
In the broadcast version last night, we just cut straight to Virginia's son walking in on them in the morning as the only indication that naughty fondling has taken place.
It's not really a big deal in terms of the overall narrative, but what on earth is the point of buying the rights to a show about sex if you're going to cut out the sex?
Yeah, because she tells Ethan to do it to her. I'm pretty sure Ethan then offers to someone.
Game of Thrones is much worse. Seems like fantasy-themed pornography.
Game of Thrones airs on Sky Atlantic, people are likely to expect harder shows on a HBO-based network. GoT is also several seasons in and heavily serialised, so likely to get a pass from Ofcom should something receive complaints (like Channel 4 did with the episode 6 of Homeland - somebody had complained about swearing during the opening titles)
Game of Thrones airs on Sky Atlantic, people are likely to expect harder shows on a HBO-based network. GoT is also several seasons in and heavily serialised, so likely to get a pass from Ofcom should something receive complaints (like Channel 4 did with the episode 6 of Homeland - somebody had complained about swearing during the opening titles)
Ofcoms guidelines seem very wooly then if one show is censored and another isn't just because it's on a satellite channel or heavily serialised.
Ofcoms guidelines seem very wooly then if one show is censored and another isn't just because it's on a satellite channel or heavily serialised.
No. It's called context. If you're watching the third season of an established heavily serialised show, the audience is likely to consist of fans of the show, who will know what to expect from it. But the 4th episode of an unestablished semi- serialised show is different because the audience still doesn't entirely know what to expect from it, and it won't necessarily consist of people familiar with the content of the show, as there could be late joiners or people who half-watched previous episodes.
1) C4 have been playing different edits to other networks, the version C4 played of "Race to Space" had opening titles. Whereas I saw a version of that episode, which didn't have the opening titles. It's possible C4 have been provided with a softer or commercial television version of the episode.
2) Without having seen the exact contents of the cut scene, is it possible that it is unbroadcastable at all? or unbroadcastable in a reasonable timeslot?
Game of Thrones airs on Sky Atlantic, people are likely to expect harder shows on a HBO-based network. GoT is also several seasons in and heavily serialised, so likely to get a pass from Ofcom should something receive complaints (like Channel 4 did with the episode 6 of Homeland - somebody had complained about swearing during the opening titles)
You understand that masters of sex has the word sex in the title and is about sex. game of thrones was sort of a a fantasy period drama?
i think people could more legitimately surprised about a bit of tit in game of thrones than in a program called 'masters of sex' about sex.
You understand that masters of sex has the word sex in the title and is about sex. game of thrones was sort of a a fantasy period drama?
i think people could more legitimately surprised about a bit of tit in game of thrones than in a program called 'masters of sex' about sex.
I know, but there's always one stupid person that ruins it for everybody (like the person that complained to Ofcom about sexual content in "The Sex Education Show" - and Ofcom pretty much agreed with them).
And that was in a general sense, rather than specifically about "Masters of Sex".
Do we know for sure that people complained to Ofcom about this show or even if Ofcom intervened or is this just another publicity stunt to get viewers talking?
Do we know for sure that people complained to Ofcom about this show or even if Ofcom intervened or is this just another publicity stunt to get viewers talking?
seems more likely to me.
although i don't doubt that there are people who will watch these things specifically with a view to complaining.
Do we know for sure that people complained to Ofcom about this show or even if Ofcom intervened or is this just another publicity stunt to get viewers talking?
There's nothing in Ofcom's two most recent Broadcast Bulletins. No standards cases, no investigations, no complaints ofcom has decided not to investigate. Nothing. The most recent bulletin is dated 23rd October, so maybe there's something in the next one...
We don't know about complaints directly to Channel 4 though.
There's nothing in Ofcom's two most recent Broadcast Bulletins. No standards cases, no investigations, no complaints ofcom has decided not to investigate. Nothing.
The most recent bulletin is dated 23rd October, so maybe there's something in the next one...
I doubt it. It's clearly a publicity stunt to gain viewers and get people talking which has worked. Rather co-incidental (not) that Michael Sheen has been on nearly every chat show plugging this show all week. I haven't seen this thread so busy since the announcement.
It should have been on from 10pm uncut from the start, silly C4!!
I think that was a pure marketing ploy - just in case we thought it was all a bit tame. (I loved the silky tones of the C4 presenter - "Please note that Masters of Sex will be on next week at the new time of 10pm" - prrrrr!! How many of us put it onto record if we hadn't done so already, lol?!)
The irony here is that not only has she been in films, Margo Martindale has been on people's television screens for a long time. Now that she's won her Emmy, people are recognizing her. I wonder if people who saw The Riches remember her in it?
i think she played in showtimes dexter series too.
Virginia and her ex-husband have sex - he "goes down" on her.
In the broadcast version last night, we just cut straight to Virginia's son walking in on them in the morning as the only indication that naughty fondling has taken place.
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("Hmm, can we show these nipples before 10? Yeah, OK then. Hang on - that one's erect! :eek: OMG, move the whole programme!"
"Phew, that was close! I'm sure there would have been thousands of complaining phone calls! We must be careful in future!")
Virginina and her ex-husband have sex - he "goes down" on her.
In the broadcast version last night, we just cut straight to Virginia's son walking in on them in the morning as the only indication that naughty fondling has taken place.
It's not really a big deal in terms of the overall narrative, but what on earth is the point of buying the rights to a show about sex if you're going to cut out the sex?
But didn't the already do oral sex?
Yeah, because she tells Ethan to do it to her. I'm pretty sure Ethan then offers to someone.
Game of Thrones is much worse. Seems like fantasy-themed pornography.
that is how i remember it too.
i haven't seen ep 4 yet so i shall watch the US version.
Game of Thrones airs on Sky Atlantic, people are likely to expect harder shows on a HBO-based network. GoT is also several seasons in and heavily serialised, so likely to get a pass from Ofcom should something receive complaints (like Channel 4 did with the episode 6 of Homeland - somebody had complained about swearing during the opening titles)
Ofcoms guidelines seem very wooly then if one show is censored and another isn't just because it's on a satellite channel or heavily serialised.
No. It's called context. If you're watching the third season of an established heavily serialised show, the audience is likely to consist of fans of the show, who will know what to expect from it. But the 4th episode of an unestablished semi- serialised show is different because the audience still doesn't entirely know what to expect from it, and it won't necessarily consist of people familiar with the content of the show, as there could be late joiners or people who half-watched previous episodes.
1) C4 have been playing different edits to other networks, the version C4 played of "Race to Space" had opening titles. Whereas I saw a version of that episode, which didn't have the opening titles. It's possible C4 have been provided with a softer or commercial television version of the episode.
2) Without having seen the exact contents of the cut scene, is it possible that it is unbroadcastable at all? or unbroadcastable in a reasonable timeslot?
You understand that masters of sex has the word sex in the title and is about sex. game of thrones was sort of a a fantasy period drama?
i think people could more legitimately surprised about a bit of tit in game of thrones than in a program called 'masters of sex' about sex.
I know, but there's always one stupid person that ruins it for everybody (like the person that complained to Ofcom about sexual content in "The Sex Education Show" - and Ofcom pretty much agreed with them).
And that was in a general sense, rather than specifically about "Masters of Sex".
seems more likely to me.
although i don't doubt that there are people who will watch these things specifically with a view to complaining.
There's nothing in Ofcom's two most recent Broadcast Bulletins. No standards cases, no investigations, no complaints ofcom has decided not to investigate. Nothing. The most recent bulletin is dated 23rd October, so maybe there's something in the next one...
We don't know about complaints directly to Channel 4 though.
I doubt it. It's clearly a publicity stunt to gain viewers and get people talking which has worked. Rather co-incidental (not) that Michael Sheen has been on nearly every chat show plugging this show all week. I haven't seen this thread so busy since the announcement.
i think she played in showtimes dexter series too.
And is also in The Americans at the moment.
And as a lead character in The Millers, which is one of the most watched sitcoms in the US right now.
i can't imagine what they cut. there was nothing.
Did you spot a continuity 'gap'?
I'm wondering if I watch so much porn I don't notice these things anymore.
I remember the scene, you couldn't see anything. So I guess the very concept of eating pussy is the problem.
Someone definitely went down on someone. I seem to remember that for some reason.