It's the action of distribution of religious books which bugs me a bit.
I'm happy for them to exist and to be available for those who want it - but I don't like the idea of them being just given out or being pushed on to people.
I feel 'religion' should be about finding spiritual answers yourself, not buying into a preachy sales-pitch and effectively joining a club. The distribution of religious books is one part of that.
Oh I missed your post earlier. Check out my cutting edge satirical wit, Ima taking drugs with da Bible, maximum euphoria.
2edgy4me RobinOfLoxley.
This is the umpteenth post of yours in this thread where you haven't actually added anything to the discussion but merely chosen to criticize a post or poster. Is that your MO, troll threads and try and wind up members? Give it a rest eh, it's getting tedious.
I used to think Christianity was a pretty benign religion compared to some others. But I was speaking to a doctor today who works for a reproductive health charity and has spent the last ten years working in West Africa. She's recently had to return to the UK for obvious reasons.
Her crew go over there and set up a tent in a village where they have to manage a neonatal clinic with one oxygen supply that can be cut of at any time due to the oxygen being supplied by a bunch of Russian gangsters in exchange for oil dollars, she has to pay dollars to officials at the airport so none of her equipment is stolen but the worst of it is the American and UK evangelists dripping in gold setting up a tent next door where they remove the contraceptive implants and steal the condoms and medical literature in exchange for god in hellfire shit.
So good on you Travelodge for removing the piece of literature that makes these people think that what they're doing is ok.
It's the action of distribution of religious books which bugs me a bit.
I'm happy for them to exist and to be available for those who want it - but I don't like the idea of them being just given out or being pushed on to people.
I feel 'religion' should be about finding spiritual answers yourself, not buying into a preachy sales-pitch and effectively joining a club. The distribution of religious books is one part of that.
How are they meant to be available if they are not given out?
I don't see how a Bible on a bedside table is a "preachy sales-pitch".
Having worked in hospitals, I have thrown them out - not only because of the infection control risk, but because of the content of such a vile book. Added to this, I have thrown religious folk off wards when they have attempted to proselytize to patients - I would do it again as well.
BIB: So what are you trying to say? That people who read the bible have germs??
I know it has validity. I do, indeed, throw them all away. However, as the previous poster has stated these bibles have been there longer than things brought in by patients - not that it matters, they all go into the black bag regardless.
So if someone brought in their Bible with them and they forgot it by accident, you would throw it in the bin regardless?
Don't you ask them first??
This is the umpteenth post of yours in this thread where you haven't actually added anything to the discussion but merely chosen to criticize a post or poster. Is that your MO, troll threads and try and wind up members? Give it a rest eh, it's getting tedious.
Looks like I've been rumbled. Sorry to derail the thread, please carry on discussing the Travel Lodge Bible removals and the wider implications for society as a whole.
This is the umpteenth post of yours in this thread where you haven't actually added anything to the discussion but merely chosen to criticize a post or poster. Is that your MO, troll threads and try and wind up members? Give it a rest eh, it's getting tedious.
I think AllyourKitty was joking around with Robin or maybe I must have misread the posts.
Religion clearly makes you very angry and not at all tolerant of those that have any kind of faith.
I am tolerant of those with religious beliefs, just not those who choose to push it on others (whether that is because they leave their 'holy' books everywhere or by attempting to convert people at their lowest!). As for religion making me angry? Why shouldn't it? It has hardly been a force for good, despite its claims. Thankfully society knows it, hence why it is rejecting it in droves.
Indeed, but as I have said before I think that the point of Bibles in hotels isn't to provide a free alternative to someone that would just go to a shop and buy one.
BIB: So what are you trying to say? That people who read the bible have germs??
Before getting all offended, look back at the thread. It is about bibles being left for years that pose infection risks. All people have germs by the way.
So if someone brought in their Bible with them and they forgot it by accident, you would throw it in the bin regardless?
Don't you ask them first??
Yep. If it meant that much they would remember it. Hospitals aren't storage rooms for the forgetful.
Hardly any Christians left where?
In the UK at least. Worldwide they are dwindling too, thankfully. Great news.
Before getting all offended, look back at the thread. It is about bibles being left for years that pose infection risks. All people have germs by the way.
Yep. If it meant that much they would remember it. Hospitals aren't storage rooms for the forgetful.
In the UK at least. Worldwide they are dwindling too, thankfully. Great news.
You're a pretty intolerant person when it comes to religion aren't you.
Indeed, but as I have said before I think that the point of Bibles in hotels isn't to provide a free alternative to someone that would just go to a shop and buy one.
Surely the point of them is to try and reach those who wouldn't normally have one with them?
Huh? Who goes to a hotel who doesn't normally read the bible suddenly decides that after they're read all the usual gumpf about local attractions and the nearest fire escape that the heavily edited Gideon bible underneath the headed stationary is just the thing they need to send them on the righteous path?
I mean what is the point? Apart from desperately trying to normalise a load of old weird stories in the 21st century.
If the bibles are going to be stored somewhere else, where Christians who want one can get one, what exactly IS the problem some people have with this change?.
If the bibles are going to be stored somewhere else, where Christians who want one can get one, what exactly IS the problem some people have with this change?.
Probably the same problem that some people have with halal meat not being clearly marked in supermarkets so Muslims know where to shop.
How are they meant to be available if they are not given out?
Why would they need to be available in the first place? Rooms aren't stocked with any other publications so why the need specifically for a bible? Hotels shouldn't need to cater for patrons' reading requirements so phasing out the archaic idea of leaving bibles in rooms is a good move I think.
Huh? Who goes to a hotel who doesn't normally read the bible suddenly decides that after they're read all the usual gumpf about local attractions and the nearest fire escape that the heavily edited Gideon bible underneath the headed stationary is just the thing they need to send them on the righteous path?
I mean what is the point? Apart from desperately trying to normalise a load of old weird stories in the 21st century.
Who can say?
Anyway, it's stationery rather than stationary, although I'm sure the headed paper you refer to isn't a moving object so you were correct in that sense
Anyway, it's stationery rather than stationary, although I'm sure the headed paper you refer to isn't a moving object so you were correct in that sense
Thanks for pointing that out.
Huh? Who goes to a hotel who doesn't normally read the bible suddenly decides that after they're read all the usual gumpf about local attractions and the nearest fire escape that the heavily edited Gideon bible underneath the headed stationery is just the thing they need to send them on the righteous path?
I mean what is the point? Apart from desperately trying to normalise a load of old weird stories in the 21st century.
Now with the correction that obviously troubled you so much I expect you can pick up on my other points.
Why would they need to be available in the first place? Rooms aren't stocked with any other publications so why the need specifically for a bible? Hotels shouldn't need to cater for patrons' reading requirements so phasing out the archaic idea of leaving bibles in rooms is a good move I think.
For a troll hunter, your posts do seem rather troll-like at times.
Huh? Who goes to a hotel who doesn't normally read the bible suddenly decides that after they're read all the usual gumpf about local attractions and the nearest fire escape that the heavily edited Gideon bible underneath the headed stationery is just the thing they need to send them on the righteous path?
I mean what is the point? Apart from desperately trying to normalise a load of old weird stories in the 21st century.
Now with the correction that obviously troubled you so much I expect you can pick up on my other points.
My basic point has been said several times. I've said all I can really say and I doubt I will convince you, not that I'm that fussed either way.
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The point is that these Bibles are not aimed at people that have left theirs at home.
I really think you missed my point.
It's the action of distribution of religious books which bugs me a bit.
I'm happy for them to exist and to be available for those who want it - but I don't like the idea of them being just given out or being pushed on to people.
I feel 'religion' should be about finding spiritual answers yourself, not buying into a preachy sales-pitch and effectively joining a club. The distribution of religious books is one part of that.
Oh I missed your post earlier. Check out my cutting edge satirical wit, Ima taking drugs with da Bible, maximum euphoria.
2edgy4me RobinOfLoxley.
This is the umpteenth post of yours in this thread where you haven't actually added anything to the discussion but merely chosen to criticize a post or poster. Is that your MO, troll threads and try and wind up members? Give it a rest eh, it's getting tedious.
Her crew go over there and set up a tent in a village where they have to manage a neonatal clinic with one oxygen supply that can be cut of at any time due to the oxygen being supplied by a bunch of Russian gangsters in exchange for oil dollars, she has to pay dollars to officials at the airport so none of her equipment is stolen but the worst of it is the American and UK evangelists dripping in gold setting up a tent next door where they remove the contraceptive implants and steal the condoms and medical literature in exchange for god in hellfire shit.
So good on you Travelodge for removing the piece of literature that makes these people think that what they're doing is ok.
Every student who's worth his salt has skinned up using the pages of the bible.
What of it?
And what's with the pidgin English?
How are they meant to be available if they are not given out?
I don't see how a Bible on a bedside table is a "preachy sales-pitch".
Waterstones?
BIB: So what are you trying to say? That people who read the bible have germs??
So if someone brought in their Bible with them and they forgot it by accident, you would throw it in the bin regardless?
Don't you ask them first??
Hardly any Christians left where?
Looks like I've been rumbled. Sorry to derail the thread, please carry on discussing the Travel Lodge Bible removals and the wider implications for society as a whole.
I think AllyourKitty was joking around with Robin or maybe I must have misread the posts.
I am tolerant of those with religious beliefs, just not those who choose to push it on others (whether that is because they leave their 'holy' books everywhere or by attempting to convert people at their lowest!). As for religion making me angry? Why shouldn't it? It has hardly been a force for good, despite its claims. Thankfully society knows it, hence why it is rejecting it in droves.
Indeed, but as I have said before I think that the point of Bibles in hotels isn't to provide a free alternative to someone that would just go to a shop and buy one.
Surely the point of them is to try and reach those who wouldn't normally have one with them?
Yep. If it meant that much they would remember it. Hospitals aren't storage rooms for the forgetful.
In the UK at least. Worldwide they are dwindling too, thankfully. Great news.
You're a pretty intolerant person when it comes to religion aren't you.
It's cutting-edge satirical wit.
Allegedly.
Huh? Who goes to a hotel who doesn't normally read the bible suddenly decides that after they're read all the usual gumpf about local attractions and the nearest fire escape that the heavily edited Gideon bible underneath the headed stationary is just the thing they need to send them on the righteous path?
I mean what is the point? Apart from desperately trying to normalise a load of old weird stories in the 21st century.
Probably the same problem that some people have with halal meat not being clearly marked in supermarkets so Muslims know where to shop.
Who can say?
Anyway, it's stationery rather than stationary, although I'm sure the headed paper you refer to isn't a moving object so you were correct in that sense
I assume that your intolerance of a person's faith is totally different to someone's intolerance of your sexuality?
Thanks for pointing that out.
Huh? Who goes to a hotel who doesn't normally read the bible suddenly decides that after they're read all the usual gumpf about local attractions and the nearest fire escape that the heavily edited Gideon bible underneath the headed stationery is just the thing they need to send them on the righteous path?
I mean what is the point? Apart from desperately trying to normalise a load of old weird stories in the 21st century.
Now with the correction that obviously troubled you so much I expect you can pick up on my other points.
For a troll hunter, your posts do seem rather troll-like at times.
My basic point has been said several times. I've said all I can really say and I doubt I will convince you, not that I'm that fussed either way.