Nope, because sex discrimination only covers things like emplyment; services; education... ie things the state or companies offer to people (like a job or a house or buying something in a shop). There is no law that says they, or anyone else, can't say "I don't want women to drive".
They are talking about barring children from entry if their mothers drive them to school, that would surely breach the Equality Act 2010.
If a majority white school banned black fathers driving their kids to school would that be ok with you?
What law would be contravened by saying anyone should stop driving? If they stop children attending school because of the sex or race of the person driving them then it could be seen as secondary discrimination - however they have only 'encouraged' the school to do so and that, of itself, is not unlawful. Barking yes, unlawful, no.
Nobody is forced to practice a particular religion. If people want to do so, they have to live by the rules of that religion, no matter how ridiculous, I suppose.
Nobody is forced to practice a particular religion. If people want to do so, they have to live by the rules of that religion, no matter how ridiculous, I suppose.
I'll happily remain an atheist.
I confess that I've never read the Torah and so I'm happy to be corrected, but I'm 99% certain that it doesn't mention whether or not women are allowed to drive cars. This is pure sexism and has nothing to do with religion.
I confess that I've never read the Torah and so I'm happy to be corrected, but I'm 99% certain that it doesn't mention whether or not women are allowed to drive cars. This is pure sexism and has nothing to do with religion.
Well of course it is sexist, but they are basing it on modesty (and not subjecting women to the aggressive road-rage drivers out there... which evidently shows they have never driven with my wife, whose language would make a sailor blush when someone cuts her up on the motorway). Orthodox religions of every type generally do not favour equality for women.
I confess that I've never read the Torah and so I'm happy to be corrected, but I'm 99% certain that it doesn't mention whether or not women are allowed to drive cars. This is pure sexism and has nothing to do with religion.
I think the closest thing would be driving to shul on Shabbat, but that applies to both sexes. Driving involves sparking a flame according to religious scholars, which is prohibited on Shabbat, but again that's applied to both sexes. And only Orthodox Jews observe these finer details because more liberal branches tend to be less adherent to halacha. As for this particular thing I don't think there's a religious basis for this.
Well of course it is sexist, but they are basing it on modesty (and not subjecting women to the aggressive road-rage drivers out there... which evidently shows they have never driven with my wife, whose language would make a sailor blush when someone cuts her up on the motorway). Orthodox religions of every type generally do not favour equality for women.
They are, of course, entitled to express their opinion on the matter but if they follow through on their threats to exclude children if their mothers defy the 'ban' then they will be in breach of the law (as far as I can tell anyway).
I think the closest thing would be driving to shul on Shabbat, but that applies to both sexes. Driving involves sparking a flame according to religious scholars, which is prohibited on Shabbat, but again that's applied to both sexes. And only Orthodox Jews observe these finer details because more liberal branches tend to be less adherent to halacha. As for this particular thing I don't think there's a religious basis for this.
Thanks for that, it never ceases to amaze me the creative ways some religious people will attempt to apply ancient documents to modern life!
If they were to 'ban' all parents from driving their kids to school then that may also be discriminatory too.
If a majority white school banned black fathers driving their kids to school would that be ok with you?
There is a difference between "ok with" and querying what law has been broken.
Also this is not a meaningful comparison unless the black fathers were willing members of the organisation who believed that black fathers shouldn't drive.
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Why would OFCOM shut a school down?
It isn't about defending it - I think it is 'batshit crazy' too - but it isn't against the law and I simply don't think it could or should be.
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According to the OP "there's been a clear breach of UK law" - what that law is nobody knows as the OP can't / won't answer the question.
What. Law. Have. They. Broken?
Simple question, mate. And anyway, can they even enforce this? Answer, no.
If a majority white school banned black fathers driving their kids to school would that be ok with you?
They are talking about barring children from entry if their mothers drive them to school, that would surely breach the Equality Act 2010.
It might be a bit questionable to turn children away from school.
Although knowing how utterly bloody farcical this country is, they'd probably then prosecute the Mother for keeping the kid off school.
This is a complete & utter fallacy.
What law would be contravened by saying anyone should stop driving? If they stop children attending school because of the sex or race of the person driving them then it could be seen as secondary discrimination - however they have only 'encouraged' the school to do so and that, of itself, is not unlawful. Barking yes, unlawful, no.
Has the school actually agreed to this (turning away children driven by their mothers)?
I'll happily remain an atheist.
I confess that I've never read the Torah and so I'm happy to be corrected, but I'm 99% certain that it doesn't mention whether or not women are allowed to drive cars. This is pure sexism and has nothing to do with religion.
I'm not defending anything at the moment, simply want to know about the claim the OP made.
Well of course it is sexist, but they are basing it on modesty (and not subjecting women to the aggressive road-rage drivers out there... which evidently shows they have never driven with my wife, whose language would make a sailor blush when someone cuts her up on the motorway). Orthodox religions of every type generally do not favour equality for women.
I think the closest thing would be driving to shul on Shabbat, but that applies to both sexes. Driving involves sparking a flame according to religious scholars, which is prohibited on Shabbat, but again that's applied to both sexes. And only Orthodox Jews observe these finer details because more liberal branches tend to be less adherent to halacha. As for this particular thing I don't think there's a religious basis for this.
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They are, of course, entitled to express their opinion on the matter but if they follow through on their threats to exclude children if their mothers defy the 'ban' then they will be in breach of the law (as far as I can tell anyway).
Thanks for that, it never ceases to amaze me the creative ways some religious people will attempt to apply ancient documents to modern life!
If they were to 'ban' all parents from driving their kids to school then that may also be discriminatory too.
Not sure you could use that unless they actually told an individual woman.
There is a difference between "ok with" and querying what law has been broken.
Also this is not a meaningful comparison unless the black fathers were willing members of the organisation who believed that black fathers shouldn't drive.
I doubt it.
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They impose much stricter rules in Israel. The Ultra-Orthodox cant be challenged easily since they also make up much of the 'settler' population.