The actress who played the woman in the shop is quite well known so I presume she's going to have a fairly significant role in future episodes. Hopefully a romance for Fred.
Annabelle Apsion, she was the abusive mother in Goodnight Mr Tom, she looks a bit different in this.
I think most people would have guessed about it being brittle bone disease. Apparently it was known about from at least 1895, so I'm surprised the consultant in the hospital hadn't heard about it as it never seemed to cross his mind either and it was left to the GP to diagnose it.
I think most people nowadays would have guessed at brittle none disease as there have been quite a few high profile cases in the press over the last few years but it is still a relatively rare condition. Most if the cases seen in the media were high profile due to them initially being considered as child abuse.
The collar bone fracture was put down to a birth injury so not suspicious initially and I don't think one other break would instantly ring bells about brittle bones. Abuse would have been the first thought in those days as it often is even today.
It was only after the third unexplained break that the GP started to piece things together and that was before the baby was sent to hospital.
It was only after the third unexplained break that the GP started to piece things together and that was before the baby was sent to hospital.
The baby went to the hospital after the second break and the consultant there said he couldn't think of any natural reason for the baby to have two fractures. It was only after the third break when he was in the care of the foster mother that something suddenly clicked with Dr Turner. However my point still stands - although rare brittle bone disease was known about and was something the consultant in the hospital should have considered. After all they are supposed to have had more training in their specialist field than the GP.
Ahh the winter of 1963... Snow on the ground from Christmas to April. Nine years before I was born, I should add, but I feel like I was there because my husband remembers it so vividly and recalls it often.
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I remember the winter of 1963! my son was born in September 62.....we were housebound those Christmas to April months in Enfield. l could not push our big Silver Cross pram out on the pavements as they were deep icy ruts. We had only a coal fire with al back boiler to heat the water, plus two small paraffin stoves. There was a pretty thick frost pattern on the insides of the bedroom windows!! Our cold water tank in the loft froze up, then thawed through the back bedroom ceiling. The fear of running out of coal and paraffin was huge!
The joy of seeing the thaw in April, and the green grass appearing was indescribable!
There was a pretty thick frost pattern on the insides of the bedroom windows!!
We got those every winter in the 1970s too I had to wear two layers of clothes in bed and had sheets, blankets and two quilts. My parents ran a small hotel and there was no central heating.
The place Sylhet is in Bangladesh.
I know this because we used to have a Sylhet restaurant in our town and the owners used to speak to us about their place of birth. They said that they named the restaurant after their City..
The baby went to the hospital after the second break and the consultant there said he couldn't think of any natural reason for the baby to have two fractures. It was only after the third break when he was in the care of the foster mother that something suddenly clicked with Dr Turner. However my point still stands - although rare brittle bone disease was known about and was something the consultant in the hospital should have considered. After all they are supposed to have had more training in their specialist field than the GP.
I don't disagree but I wondered if their religion had made the doctor suspicious - not giving medicine always says neglect or cruelty to doctors I think. And the husband was rather volatile I thought.
The actress who played the woman in the shop is quite well known so I presume she's going to have a fairly significant role in future episodes. Hopefully a romance for Fred.
I remember her from Goodnight Mr Tom. The mother of William.
A very stressful episode last night and lovely seeing little Cynthia Miller back. Such a lovely actress.
I find this so much better without Jenny Lee in it.
They mention the NHS all the time and it is always pointed out that the women are seen for free.
I know they're seen for free, what I'm interested in knowing is basically the midwives in Neonates house are they NHS or "independent", or to the point, who pays their wages ????
As to the no mention of the NHS what I meant is there is no mention THEY'RE NHS.
Good episode.
I'm very much liking Nurse Crane and Patsy.
Interested to see what lies in store for Trixie, she seems to have come to a crossroads in her life, we know that behind the usual chirpy façade she has a troubled past, maybe she thought her answer was in the happily ever after in marriage and now she realises that isn't who she is....she has some soul searching to do and I hope she comes through it.
Still not keen on the Dr's wife and really haven't missed Cynthia or her story line..........interesting she did not reach out to Trixie when she knew she had come to see her in her room though.... when Trixie saw Cynthia on her return on the stairway it was apparent that another friend/relationship had gone or changed and it seemed almost as if she has lost a friend and met almost a stranger in their polite but distant hello's.
It seems time for Trixie to move on but I would miss her.
I remember her from Goodnight Mr Tom. The mother of William.
A very stressful episode last night and lovely seeing little Cynthia Miller back. Such a lovely actress.
I find this so much better without Jenny Lee in it.
Annabelle Apsion is her name....I recall seeing her in Corrie years ago as Richard Hillmans first wife...he killed her with a spade I think, she was also in Soldier Soldier even longer ago.
I agree about not missing Chummy, and I'm surprised because I really like her as a character. I didn't expect to miss Jenny (and I don't), even though I liked her, although I thought she was the least interesting character.
I loved this latest episode, partially because it highlighted most of my favorite characters--the Turners, Sister Julienne, Barbara, and now Cynthia (well, Sister Mary Cynthia) is back too, and it was nice to see a cameo appearance by Sister Evangelina. I'm starting to get a little bit tired of Trixie. I still like the character mostly but I feel like her story has dominated this series. She's also starting to come off as a lot more over-the-top and melodramatic than she was in earlier seasons, and I don't like the change. I'm glad other characters were given the spotlight this episode. I thought the acting and writing was particularly strong in this week's plots.
I especially loved the Turner story line, with Patrick dealing with self-doubt and his past issues, and Shelagh helping him, and finally putting on a nurse's uniform in the same episode Sister Mary Cynthia shows up as a full-fledged nun (and I think those story lines in the same episode was deliberate and a great contrast--nun-to-nurse and nurse-to-nun). I love the Turners' relationship this series after all their angst and communication issues last series, and I love their whole family (I liked seeing Timothy helping take care of his dad). As for Sister Mary Cynthia (I have to get used to thinking of her that way), it was very interesting watching her learn to adjust to a new life in the convent, and to see the dynamic of her relationships with the nurses and nuns changing.
Also, I really liked Barbara's plot, and how all the plots were blended together this episode. Although I love series 4 so far, I've had issues with too many plots per episode sometimes, but I think this episode was perfectly paced. I also guessed about brittle bone disease, but I think the general public knows more about conditions like that now than they did in 1960. I'm willing to give Dr. Turner the benefit of the doubt there.
I thought the music in this episode was particularly strong. There was a lot of great original music, and the nuns got to sing again, which I always think is great!
I absolutely love this programme. As others have said, it gets better and better. I knew a lot of the stories in the earlier episodes because I read the trilogy of books.
I love the Turner family, they are lovely, the son is especially kind and thoughtful lad.
What I think is good also, we have a break from some of the regular actors making the show more interesting. Pam Ferris for example hasn't been in a few episodes except for briefly this episode and I think it's a clever way of keeping the series fresh.
I have a feeling we are going to lose Trixie, she is obviously still very much in love and I do think she will follow her heart. Can't remember from the book what happens.
I thought the baby had brittle bones from the second fracture, I think the angry dad shouting about the noise of the baby crying was a red herring.
The only negative about this episode, the lady who had the tracheotomy, there was a scene near the very end where you see her clutching the baby, there wasn't a sign of a healed tracheotomy or even a plaster. Having seen my mum have emergency tracheotomy, it was the first thing I noticed in the scene as at least she should have had a plaster there.
All in all a fantastic episode and series up to now.
I am glad Cynthia is back felt sorry for Trixie though she taking the break up from Tom hard and is also missing her friendship with Cynthia because Cynthia is the person she has been friends with longest and now that Cynthia is a nun they can't do the same things they used to do.
Remember them!, I lived in one!, 19th floor of a tower block in Chingford!.. almost opposite the Dog Track!..... Anyone know it!....
I don't remember the summer but I do remember the winter about that time!...... Snow,snow, and more snow!.......... I think I ruined about 4 or 5 pairs of shoes and boots walking in It for weeks!...
Yes I thought the same straight away as well".......
I remember the summer very well, it really was a scorcher, but the winter was the winter of 1963...... was snowed in for ages ... could not get to college for about 2 weeks...
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You should have, at least you can spell diphtheria.
Annabelle Apsion, she was the abusive mother in Goodnight Mr Tom, she looks a bit different in this.
Fred was certainly giving her the eye last night
She's also in The Village.
I think most people nowadays would have guessed at brittle none disease as there have been quite a few high profile cases in the press over the last few years but it is still a relatively rare condition. Most if the cases seen in the media were high profile due to them initially being considered as child abuse.
The collar bone fracture was put down to a birth injury so not suspicious initially and I don't think one other break would instantly ring bells about brittle bones. Abuse would have been the first thought in those days as it often is even today.
It was only after the third unexplained break that the GP started to piece things together and that was before the baby was sent to hospital.
The baby went to the hospital after the second break and the consultant there said he couldn't think of any natural reason for the baby to have two fractures. It was only after the third break when he was in the care of the foster mother that something suddenly clicked with Dr Turner. However my point still stands - although rare brittle bone disease was known about and was something the consultant in the hospital should have considered. After all they are supposed to have had more training in their specialist field than the GP.
I remember the winter of 1963! my son was born in September 62.....we were housebound those Christmas to April months in Enfield. l could not push our big Silver Cross pram out on the pavements as they were deep icy ruts. We had only a coal fire with al back boiler to heat the water, plus two small paraffin stoves. There was a pretty thick frost pattern on the insides of the bedroom windows!! Our cold water tank in the loft froze up, then thawed through the back bedroom ceiling. The fear of running out of coal and paraffin was huge!
The joy of seeing the thaw in April, and the green grass appearing was indescribable!
But we survived!!
Loving CTMW.:)
Yep, great stuff. Vast improvement on previous in this series.
We got those every winter in the 1970s too
The place Sylhet is in Bangladesh.
I know this because we used to have a Sylhet restaurant in our town and the owners used to speak to us about their place of birth. They said that they named the restaurant after their City..
Is this where the language originated then ?
...and Soldier, Soldier and Shameless.
Who do these midvives work for ? Are they NHS, private or charity ?
I just wonder as there is no mention of the NHS and why are these women not seen by NHS midwives ?
I don't disagree but I wondered if their religion had made the doctor suspicious - not giving medicine always says neglect or cruelty to doctors I think. And the husband was rather volatile I thought.
They mention the NHS all the time and it is always pointed out that the women are seen for free.
I remember her from Goodnight Mr Tom. The mother of William.
A very stressful episode last night and lovely seeing little Cynthia Miller back. Such a lovely actress.
I find this so much better without Jenny Lee in it.
I know they're seen for free, what I'm interested in knowing is basically the midwives in Neonates house are they NHS or "independent", or to the point, who pays their wages ????
As to the no mention of the NHS what I meant is there is no mention THEY'RE NHS.
I'm very much liking Nurse Crane and Patsy.
Interested to see what lies in store for Trixie, she seems to have come to a crossroads in her life, we know that behind the usual chirpy façade she has a troubled past, maybe she thought her answer was in the happily ever after in marriage and now she realises that isn't who she is....she has some soul searching to do and I hope she comes through it.
Still not keen on the Dr's wife and really haven't missed Cynthia or her story line..........interesting she did not reach out to Trixie when she knew she had come to see her in her room though.... when Trixie saw Cynthia on her return on the stairway it was apparent that another friend/relationship had gone or changed and it seemed almost as if she has lost a friend and met almost a stranger in their polite but distant hello's.
It seems time for Trixie to move on but I would miss her.
Annabelle Apsion is her name....I recall seeing her in Corrie years ago as Richard Hillmans first wife...he killed her with a spade I think, she was also in Soldier Soldier even longer ago.
She looked so tiny in the habit and wimple.
I do too. It's not really missing Chummy either, and she's one of my favourite characters.
I loved this latest episode, partially because it highlighted most of my favorite characters--the Turners, Sister Julienne, Barbara, and now Cynthia (well, Sister Mary Cynthia) is back too, and it was nice to see a cameo appearance by Sister Evangelina. I'm starting to get a little bit tired of Trixie. I still like the character mostly but I feel like her story has dominated this series. She's also starting to come off as a lot more over-the-top and melodramatic than she was in earlier seasons, and I don't like the change. I'm glad other characters were given the spotlight this episode. I thought the acting and writing was particularly strong in this week's plots.
I especially loved the Turner story line, with Patrick dealing with self-doubt and his past issues, and Shelagh helping him, and finally putting on a nurse's uniform in the same episode Sister Mary Cynthia shows up as a full-fledged nun (and I think those story lines in the same episode was deliberate and a great contrast--nun-to-nurse and nurse-to-nun). I love the Turners' relationship this series after all their angst and communication issues last series, and I love their whole family (I liked seeing Timothy helping take care of his dad). As for Sister Mary Cynthia (I have to get used to thinking of her that way), it was very interesting watching her learn to adjust to a new life in the convent, and to see the dynamic of her relationships with the nurses and nuns changing.
Also, I really liked Barbara's plot, and how all the plots were blended together this episode. Although I love series 4 so far, I've had issues with too many plots per episode sometimes, but I think this episode was perfectly paced. I also guessed about brittle bone disease, but I think the general public knows more about conditions like that now than they did in 1960. I'm willing to give Dr. Turner the benefit of the doubt there.
I thought the music in this episode was particularly strong. There was a lot of great original music, and the nuns got to sing again, which I always think is great!
I love the Turner family, they are lovely, the son is especially kind and thoughtful lad.
What I think is good also, we have a break from some of the regular actors making the show more interesting. Pam Ferris for example hasn't been in a few episodes except for briefly this episode and I think it's a clever way of keeping the series fresh.
I have a feeling we are going to lose Trixie, she is obviously still very much in love and I do think she will follow her heart. Can't remember from the book what happens.
I thought the baby had brittle bones from the second fracture, I think the angry dad shouting about the noise of the baby crying was a red herring.
The only negative about this episode, the lady who had the tracheotomy, there was a scene near the very end where you see her clutching the baby, there wasn't a sign of a healed tracheotomy or even a plaster. Having seen my mum have emergency tracheotomy, it was the first thing I noticed in the scene as at least she should have had a plaster there.
All in all a fantastic episode and series up to now.
I can't stand Tom and I hope Trixie doesn't marry him. If she leaves I hope it's to strike on her own to do something new.
In an amusing little detail, Patsy had a postcard of Marlene Dietrich above her bed. Interesting contrast to all of Trixie's teen idols on her wall.
Loved Patsy Smile when she said Delia's Name 😆😆.
I remember the summer very well, it really was a scorcher, but the winter was the winter of 1963...... was snowed in for ages ... could not get to college for about 2 weeks...