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Anyone done jury service?

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How do people cope with this? Finding someone guilty and potentially ruing there life. Especially for something not serious.
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    3Sheets2TheWind3Sheets2TheWind Posts: 3,028
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    I've been summoned in March so I would be interested in finding out experiences of others on here.

    I know being selected is random, but I also like to think that my posts on here have been read and someone has spotted how balanced and objective I can be :D
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    Deep PurpleDeep Purple Posts: 63,255
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    How do people cope with this? Finding someone guilty and potentially ruing there life. Especially for something not serious.

    Well if they are guilty, it's their fault not the juries.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 870
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    Well if they are guilty, it's their fault not the juries.

    I know but say for something like benefit fraud etc. they are going through hard times . You then give them a criminal record make their life worse etc
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    3Sheets2TheWind3Sheets2TheWind Posts: 3,028
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    I know but say for something like benefit fraud etc. they are going through hard times . You then give them a criminal record make their life worse etc

    If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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    trevgotrevgo Posts: 28,241
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    Yes, did it many years ago at Southwark Crown Court.

    One pathetically trivial case and one more interesting. I was foreman of the jury, and we found him innocent on a majority verdict. That was then. Now I think I would have interpreted the case differently.

    There is a massive amount of messing about and time wasting. It gives an insight as to how laborious and inefficient the justice system is.
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    RegTheHedgeRegTheHedge Posts: 2,794
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    trevgo wrote: »
    Yes, did it many years ago at Southwark Crown Court.

    One pathetically trivial case and one more interesting. I was foreman of the jury, and we found him innocent on a majority verdict. That was then. Now I think I would have interpreted the case differently.

    There is a massive amount of messing about and time wasting. It gives an insight as to how laborious and inefficient the justice system is.

    Thank God I got out of mine .Pubic duty and all that - but heck , no way was I going to daily commutes to some distant Essex suburb.
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    Guest82722Guest82722 Posts: 10,019
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    I know but say for something like benefit fraud etc. they are going through hard times . You then give them a criminal record make their life worse etc

    You don't sound like a fit person to do jury service.

    You must not find someone not guilty simply because you feel sorry for them.
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    PorcupinePorcupine Posts: 25,248
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    My husband did it this summer. He sat on one case and spent most of the time hanging around in the café.
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    ThatGuy11200ThatGuy11200 Posts: 1,459
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    I was on a jury once, wounding with intent and GBH with intent (two different people) with a samurai sword. We found him not guilty of wounding with intent but guilty of GBH with intent. Though thinking about it years later, he was probably not guilty on both counts.
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    ElyanElyan Posts: 8,781
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    I've managed to reach my 40s without getting called.

    I wouldn't mind doing it actually - as long as it wasn't one of those six month fraud trials.
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,517
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    My wife was summoned, but in the end 'got out of it'.

    Not for any desire not to serve, but because the court didn't make it possible.

    We had a young baby, and the court said we had to employ professional child minding to look after her - pay for it, then claim it back. If you've ever tried to find a decent child minder, particularly short term and for extended hours, you know how impossible that is.

    Second, getting there - my wife doesn't drive, and they wouldn't pay for a taxi - insisting she used the bus. This would have meant four buses each way, and 2-3 hours travelling time each way (hence the need for extended hours child care).

    In order to solve all the problems I offered to take the time off as a holiday, transport her there and back, and do the child care myself. We were told this wasn't possible, and they wouldn't pay a parent for providing childcare, although I could claim petrol expenses.

    In the end we just told them "provide acceptable child care, sensible transport arrangements, or get stuffed" and left it with them.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 870
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    You don't sound like a fit person to do jury service.

    You must not find someone not guilty simply because you feel sorry for them.

    Yes I can if I like
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    Guest82722Guest82722 Posts: 10,019
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    Yes I can if I like

    Ofcourse you can't.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
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    Yes I can if I like

    So if all evidence points towards guilt and you think they did it (although perhaps with good reason), you would still say "innocent" because you felt sorry for them?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 870
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    Ofcourse you can't.

    Yep I can. Is up to me how I come to my decision
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 870
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    Helsie wrote: »
    So if all evidence points towards guilt and you think they did it (although perhaps with good reason), you would still say "innocent" because you felt sorry for them?

    Yes if it was for something trivial
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    PorcupinePorcupine Posts: 25,248
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    Yep I can. Is up to me how I come to my decision

    If I ever get hauled up before judge and jury .... can I request you are one of the jurors. I am really good at acting pitiful.
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    AcornatiAcornati Posts: 606
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    I did it 8 years ago for a child abuse case. It was a horrible 2 weeks and I still think about it often even now. I'm positive the guy was guilty but I still think about how his life was changed forever by the decisions made.
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    Guest82722Guest82722 Posts: 10,019
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    Yep I can. Is up to me how I come to my decision

    You know you really, really, really shouldn't be doing jury service.

    This isn't a game show where you save someone because you like them.

    The judge will explain this to all jury members before hand, and remind you of your responsibilities, Emotion must not come in to it.
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    PictoPicto Posts: 24,270
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    Porcupine wrote: »
    If I ever get hauled up before judge and jury .... can I request you are one of the jurors. I am really good at acting pitiful.

    On one of the cases i sat on, one of the accused was really softly spoken and polite for the first two days and a few of the jurors really felt sorry for him. However, on the third day his mask slipped during questioning and he became really aggressive. It was like a totally different person was on trial.

    Afterwards we were informed us of all the previous crimes he had committed. The list was quite long.
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    trevgotrevgo Posts: 28,241
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    Yep I can. Is up to me how I come to my decision

    You are completely unsuitable for jury service.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 870
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    trevgo wrote: »
    You are completely unsuitable for jury service.

    No if it was a serious crime then I would base on the evidence but for something trivial like a student stealing a traffic cone I would find not guilty. What is the point of them having a criminal record for something so silly?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 870
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    You know you really, really, really shouldn't be doing jury service.

    This isn't a game show where you save someone because you like them.

    The judge will explain this to all jury members before hand, and remind you of your responsibilities, Emotion must not come in to it.

    Never said it was a game show.
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    Deep PurpleDeep Purple Posts: 63,255
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    No if it was a serious crime then I would base on the evidence but for something trivial like a student stealing a traffic cone I would find not guilty. What is the point of them having a criminal record for something so silly?

    If you were on a Jury, you would be at Crown Court, and trivial matters such as that are not heard there.
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