Do ALL racehorses and Greyhounds have a retirement?

ZimmieZimmie Posts: 1,244
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I am not talking about the well known animals, i am talking about the also rans.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0412/gardai-investigate-greyhound-deaths-in-co-limerick.html.

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  • EmpiricalEmpirical Posts: 10,189
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    Well obviously not. If you define retirement as not being culled.

    Greyhounds normally end up in dogs homes for adoption.
  • pugamopugamo Posts: 18,039
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    Unfortunately it is totally normal for greyhound owners to take them out and shoot them when they have finished their racing life. Some are taken to the vet and put down and some are retired and rehomed. Personally I think if you've bought an animal you have the responsibility to care for it until the end of it's life, or find somebody who will.
  • TogglerToggler Posts: 4,592
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    Generally failed greyhounds and racehorses are put down. As long as done humanely and without fear or pain this is by far the best thing for them. Both groups are bred in gross numbers so there are loads who never make it.

    We see too much of the 'rehomed racehorse' syndrome where inexperienced riders pick up a Thoroughbred off the tracks for little more than meat money and think they can hack round the lanes on it. Animal and rider often suffer, horse gets sold or sent to the sales and the final destination is often the greatest horror for any horse - live export - across to the continent.
  • ZimmieZimmie Posts: 1,244
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    The Gambling Industry makes a Billion a year, yet they can't contribute a 00000.1 percent of their profits to set up retirement homes for these creatures, a disgrace.
  • BagpipesBagpipes Posts: 5,443
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    I thought their retirement usually consisted of being shot.
  • dip_transferdip_transfer Posts: 2,327
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    Empirical wrote: »
    Well obviously not. If you define retirement as not being culled.

    Greyhounds normally end up in dogs homes for adoption.

    My Brother in Law used to own Greyhounds, And the vast majority are put down, and not always by vets or the R.S.P.C.A.
  • TagletTaglet Posts: 20,286
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    Ex racehorses end up at auctions being sold for peanuts.... most go into the food chain or are purchased by people with neither the ability or knowledge to own them so live miserable lives passed from owner to owner labelled as a problem horse.
  • ZimmieZimmie Posts: 1,244
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    Taglet wrote: »
    Ex racehorses end up at auctions being sold for peanuts.... most go into the food chain or are purchased by people with neither the ability or knowledge to own them so live miserable lives passed from owner to owner labelled as a problem horse.
    Why don't the raceowners keep them, surely they would not be a big expense, they would graze in field and have just occasional vet treatment, also they could earn their keep by helping train apprentice jockeys.
  • NamiraNamira Posts: 3,099
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    Bagpipes wrote: »
    I thought their retirement usually consisted of being shot.

    If they are lucky. Sometimes Greyhounds are just dumped somewhere with their ears hacked off and left to starve. Or thrown in pools with bricks tied to them.
  • Butcher BillButcher Bill Posts: 2,408
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    Bagpipes wrote: »
    I thought their retirement usually consisted of being shot.

    Sometimes that's the case unfortunately - especially for horses.

    They find themselves being shipped off to a Belgian slaughter house.

    Some dogs also end up being shot with a bolt gun.

    Both industries are trying to do something about it. I think the government should introduce an animal welfare tax on the bookmakers to pay toward retired racing animals.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 684
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    Zimmie wrote: »
    Why don't the raceowners keep them, surely they would not be a big expense, they would graze in field and have just occasional vet treatment, also they could earn their keep by helping train apprentice jockeys.

    You forget that these thoroughbreds aren't quite as hardy as the horses most keep. As they won't be exercising as much their diet will need to be watched and in the winter they will still need to be fed and maybe kept indoors (rugs aren't the answer to everything) which raises the issue of space. They will also still need to be groomed and have the farrier around, particularly if they're only going to be in a field and not on hard ground which all costs money. Unfortunately a large enough number of owners wouldn't be bothered enough to do this when it's easier to get rid of the horse.
  • TagletTaglet Posts: 20,286
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    Zimmie wrote: »
    Why don't the raceowners keep them, surely they would not be a big expense, they would graze in field and have just occasional vet treatment, also they could earn their keep by helping train apprentice jockeys.

    They cant just live in a field...they are too fine so it would cost, however only a fraction of what it costs to have a horse in training....owners wouldnt see the point though and will be off buying a replacment. A lot are kicked out because of injury so useless for training jockeys and there isnt the need if they have the genuine article to ride.
  • goldieloxgoldielox Posts: 8,425
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    Zimmie wrote: »
    Why don't the raceowners keep them, surely they would not be a big expense, they would graze in field and have just occasional vet treatment, also they could earn their keep by helping train apprentice jockeys.

    Thoroughbreds aren't cut out to live in a field all year round. They aren't hardy enough so need stabling or some form of shelter and extra food in winter, plus there's farrier and worming costs.

    Some horses do also get bored just stuck in a field with nothing to do when they've been used to an active life.

    A lot of them do go on to lead active lives outside of racing however. Recently introduced showing classes for ex racers are proving extremely popular and others go on to successful careers in other equestrian activities too. They aren't all slaughtered. Many make it into ex racehorse re-homing/re-training centres instead. Some of the mares will be used for breeding - the slower/unsuitable for racing mares may still be bought by someone wanting to breed a quality TB or half bred horse.

    Likewise some of the non or lesser successful stallions may still stand at stud. There are plenty of these and they are hugely popular for those wishing to breed a horse for purposes other than the racecourse.
  • pugamopugamo Posts: 18,039
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    Zimmie wrote: »
    Why don't the raceowners keep them, surely they would not be a big expense, they would graze in field and have just occasional vet treatment, also they could earn their keep by helping train apprentice jockeys.

    A lot of the time the owners don't even see the horses, they just buy them and send them off a trainer.
  • TagletTaglet Posts: 20,286
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    Have to add that they are often very young when kicked out of racing so it would be a very long retirement.

    There are re-training places but they run on donations and can only handle very few......which is probably just as well because there is a limited riding market for them.
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