If I'd had the means.I'd have paid the ransom.We pay £53 million into the EU each day and get nothing back for it.At least we'd have saved his life.Prior to an all out assault on the terrorists.
Are you a fool...how do you know you would have saved his life, you want to pay people who kidnap people and behead them?
So anyone can kidnap someone and you would pay?
No he's not a fool he's an ignorant idiot. Giving into ransoms just increases them. There was a story the other day saying that both the UK and the US have lower demands for precisely the reason that neither government pay / give in to ransoms.
Are you a fool...how do you know you would have saved his life, you want to pay people who kidnap people and behead them?
So anyone can kidnap someone and you would pay?
These people are well known for keeping to a deal.They are run like a well oiled business.Most other EU countries,especially Italy,France and Spain have paid millions for the release of their citizens.Although they'd never admit to it.
Strange how it's only the non ransom paying moral high ground Governments who say 'deepest condolences' all the time.
I've already stated my views on future kidnappings,if you'd care to read.
I'd say it's only a matter of time before that happens.
Much as I can't bear Islam (I'm not particularly tolerant of any religion) I really hope that's not the case. I should hope the majority of the British public have the common sense to realise that wouldn't be a very wise move.
I think the time has come for the Government and labour to get together and decide between them what should be done about these evil bastards. This would then send out a message that they are working together.
These people are well known for keeping to a deal.They are run like a well oiled business.Most other EU countries,especially Italy,France and Spain have paid millions for the release of their citizens.Although they'd never admit to it.
Strange how it's only the non ransom paying moral high ground Governments who say 'deepest condolences' all the time.
I've already stated my views on future kidnappings,if you'd care to read.
These people are well known for keeping to a deal.They are run like a well oiled business.Most other EU countries,especially Italy,France and Spain have paid millions for the release of their citizens.Although they'd never admit to it.
Strange how it's only the non ransom paying moral high ground Governments who say 'deepest condolences' all the time.
I've already stated my views on future kidnappings,if you'd care to read.
ISIS are well known for keeping a deal? Well that's alright then they are trustworthy and honest.
Why don't we invite them round for tea and congratulate them for standing by their word.
Perhaps you're not aware then that the video directly references David Cameron and his recent actions?
What he could have done was quietly pay the ransom, there WAS only one British hostage after all...whereas we are left with a PM that can't even keep alive the single person he's publically taken direct responsibility for.
Absolutely not. It's a horrible thing to happen and I feel so much sympathy for him and his family but we do not pay terrorists random money, it opens the door to more kidnappings and murder.
I would normally only be in favour of military action as a last resort but this barbarity has to stop. Air strikes clearly aren't enough. We need ground troops in there
I think the time has come for the Government and labour to get together and decide between them what should be done about these evil bastards. This would then send out a message that they are working together.
There is the Scottish Independence vote which is why Britain and Cameron are cautious, I suspect something will be announced next weekend.
Also there is a general election next year all are sensitive issues for the current government.
Now a Britain has been murdered these should no longer count when deciding on a strategy.
Why do they have the option of killing British and American people in the first place? Why are they over there in such a volatile place and why don't they have security? And why don't they fight back against their murderers?
Why is nothing been done about this lot? Surely their location is known by now? Which country are they in? Libya?
Much as I can't bear Islam (I'm not particularly tolerant of any religion) I really hope that's not the case. I should hope the majority of the British public have the common sense to realise that wouldn't be a very wise move.
I don't think it will be long before there are groups in this country who make the EDL look like the Boy Scouts.
I think the time has come for the Government and labour to get together and decide between them what should be done about these evil bastards. This would then send out a message that they are working together.
Its very complicated though. Likely the only way to defeat ISIS in Syria is to join forces with Assad, who was recently murdering his people with chemical weapons. There are so many ISIS in Syria that airstrikes is unlikely to be enough.
Why do they have the option of killing British and American people in the first place? Why are they over there in such a volatile place and why don't they have security? And why don't they fight back against their murderers?
Why is nothing been done about this lot? Surely their location is known by now? Which country are they in? Libya?
The Briton was kidnapped in 2013 before ISIS became public, he was an aid worker in Syria as is the next one.
ISIS move around and Iraq and Syria is a large area which is why they have to be pushed back into Syria which is what the airstrikes are doing.
The Americans tried to rescue the previous hostage and he was moved before he got there.
I don't have much cause to think it'll go any better than the last clusterf**k though.
I sincerely hope we throw everything but the kitchen sink at these bastards and also start taking very serious action against IS supporters in this country.
Extremist Islam is on the rise in the UK and we need to put a stop to it.
No he's not a fool he's an ignorant idiot. Giving into ransoms just increases them. There was a story the other day saying that both the UK and the US have lower demands for precisely the reason that neither government pay / give in to ransoms.
Go and read the T's and C's of membership of this forum Kenny.
There's no need for abuse on this forum.You might disagree with my points but you don't have to stoop so low as insulting me.
Why do they have the option of killing British and American people in the first place? Why are they over there in such a volatile place and why don't they have security? And why don't they fight back against their murderers?
Why is nothing been done about this lot? Surely their location is known by now? Which country are they in? Libya?
How the hell do you suggest they fight back?
Behind the camera will be a load of fanatical goons with guns pointed at the poor men,
But once we had him home safe and well.We would commence operations to obliterate them off the face of the earth.
People are right to say we shouldn't give in to terrorists demands.But first of all we need to draw a line under this tragedy.
1) Pay the IS demands.For all known British hostages of this organisation.
2) Tell all journalists and aid workers that this is the last time we'll do this.If these people catch you.You are on your own.I wouldn't put myself in danger of kidnap and neither should they.Regardless of their good intentions.
3) Commence total liquidation of IS members.
If you really think that is the solution, you really must be either stupid and / or naive?
How about all the other terrorist organisations? Don't you think they would just start kidnapping people from further afield? Once the word got out that the British government had started paying ransoms, we would all be at risk - even without travelling to these countries.
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No he's not a fool he's an ignorant idiot. Giving into ransoms just increases them. There was a story the other day saying that both the UK and the US have lower demands for precisely the reason that neither government pay / give in to ransoms.
These people are well known for keeping to a deal.They are run like a well oiled business.Most other EU countries,especially Italy,France and Spain have paid millions for the release of their citizens.Although they'd never admit to it.
Strange how it's only the non ransom paying moral high ground Governments who say 'deepest condolences' all the time.
I've already stated my views on future kidnappings,if you'd care to read.
Poor man, he looks doomed
Trouble is it's hard to kill an idea.
I'm convinced at this point they're deliberately goading us into a war.
They're subjected to many mock executions beforehand. There's a fair chance he didn't know today would be his day.
Much as I can't bear Islam (I'm not particularly tolerant of any religion) I really hope that's not the case. I should hope the majority of the British public have the common sense to realise that wouldn't be a very wise move.
The BIB. Link please?
If that is the case, I hope we take the bait.
This is one war I'd have no problem supporting.
ISIS are well known for keeping a deal? Well that's alright then they are trustworthy and honest.
Why don't we invite them round for tea and congratulate them for standing by their word.
Absolutely not. It's a horrible thing to happen and I feel so much sympathy for him and his family but we do not pay terrorists random money, it opens the door to more kidnappings and murder.
I would normally only be in favour of military action as a last resort but this barbarity has to stop. Air strikes clearly aren't enough. We need ground troops in there
It's inevitable at this point.
I don't have much cause to think it'll go any better than the last clusterf**k though.
There is the Scottish Independence vote which is why Britain and Cameron are cautious, I suspect something will be announced next weekend.
Also there is a general election next year all are sensitive issues for the current government.
Now a Britain has been murdered these should no longer count when deciding on a strategy.
Why do they have the option of killing British and American people in the first place? Why are they over there in such a volatile place and why don't they have security? And why don't they fight back against their murderers?
Why is nothing been done about this lot? Surely their location is known by now? Which country are they in? Libya?
I don't think it will be long before there are groups in this country who make the EDL look like the Boy Scouts.
Its very complicated though. Likely the only way to defeat ISIS in Syria is to join forces with Assad, who was recently murdering his people with chemical weapons. There are so many ISIS in Syria that airstrikes is unlikely to be enough.
ISIS move around and Iraq and Syria is a large area which is why they have to be pushed back into Syria which is what the airstrikes are doing.
The Americans tried to rescue the previous hostage and he was moved before he got there.
You've watched too many action movies.
I think you could be right. If the EDL werent so thuggish, I think alot of people would join them.
I sincerely hope we throw everything but the kitchen sink at these bastards and also start taking very serious action against IS supporters in this country.
Extremist Islam is on the rise in the UK and we need to put a stop to it.
Go and read the T's and C's of membership of this forum Kenny.
There's no need for abuse on this forum.You might disagree with my points but you don't have to stoop so low as insulting me.
How the hell do you suggest they fight back?
Behind the camera will be a load of fanatical goons with guns pointed at the poor men,
If you really think that is the solution, you really must be either stupid and / or naive?
How about all the other terrorist organisations? Don't you think they would just start kidnapping people from further afield? Once the word got out that the British government had started paying ransoms, we would all be at risk - even without travelling to these countries.