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Enjoyed Alfie Threatening to Batter Alex
Tiernan_Mccarth
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Don't know why but it felt very old EastEnders. Shame Mick joined in and halted Alfie. I'd have enjoyed smashing Alex's heading in.
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He almost turned into the incredible hulk!
:-D:-D:-D
Aleks didn't appear to be bothered. Alfie was just het up and apologised immediately yet everyone is out to label him this that and the other.
I think the outburst was very current with a lot of peoples views and its not that ppl are being rascist or xenophobic they are just frustrated and lashing out to hurt. not that there is an excuse but there is no need for labels
Good call!
Xenophobia is a term used to describe someone who hates foreigners. Someone who despises them. Alfie is not a foreigner hater. He doesn't like Aleks who conveniently happens to be foreign. Alfies point was that his life, even though he has pressed a self destruct button, is being dictated and puppeteered by someone who he despises. Someone who pretends he knows about what its like to be an EastEnder and Alfie snapped. Simple. All this OTT "xenophobic" "racist" suggestion is pathetic. I think it's those who label others who are afraid of addressing their own prejudices, therefore finding other peoples prejudices offensive.
and under the bridge there lived a troll.
I agree its nice that the writers aren't treading on eggshells, I want to see realistic reactions and comments.
BIB: I am not sure what caused Jim to be so close to Patrick after being known as a racist character, I can only assume that he had matured with age (eventually) and saw Patrick for the person he is not his skin colour.
As for Dot, I have no idea, I have seen a clip where she is very anti gay, but I also remember a time where she invited Fatboys ex (I can't remember her name) to try out a more laid back and friendly bible club that was open to the gay community etc. so I can only assume she has just become less of a judging person and more open minded? I dunno thats my stab in the dark
This!
I agree that Alfie isn't xenophobic or racist, just angry, he was desperate enough to go cap in hand to the employer he pissed about but Aleks wouldn't give him another chance.
All Alfie really wants is to right the wrongs and Aleks has already punished Alfie by kicking him off the market and deleting his answerphone message so he could have been the better man and given Alfie another chance on probation and providing he keep his nose out of his affairs and stay away from Roxy but no, he's always got to have the upper hand and Alfie has now dug himself even deeper!
I agree with this post.
I think with Jim they just felt they had to tone him down once they decided to make him a regular character and I think he is just supposed to have mellowed with age. To be fair, there probably are people that held racist views in prior decades when it was more common and accepted and perhaps they'd never properly met and talked to black people but havd come to realise they were wrong. Maybe even meeting Patrick helped him to moderate his views?
Dot I'm sure changed her views re homosexuality by becoming good friends with Colin.
Even with Derek, always had the feeling that he was still racist but was smart enough to realise that the world had moved on and he could no longer get away with being so open about his views in general society but he hadn't really changed them.
Spot on Kitkat, agree with all of that.
I actually appreciated the un-PC-ness of that scene. Everyone is always so nicey-nicey and tolerant on soaps when we all know that there are people out there who say the kind of things that Alfie said (and a million times worse!) To me it was reminiscent of the early days of EE when they weren't afraid to be confrontational - albeit a mild and mellowed version.
Aleks makes me smile, I love the 80's vibe he has going on with the Simon Le Bon circa Duran Duran era hair and when he put those shades on my immediate thought was 'Miami Vice!'
On the contrary I think Aleks cared very much. The way he responded indicated he had Alfie's card marked and that was that Alfie is a no longer closet racist >:(
As for just realising Aleks is attractive
aleks has had alfie's card marked for some time. alfie is not racist.
the aleks bit was just the moment when he put his glasses on. I am blaming not feeling well