vote to save isn't it.
Depends who is in the final how the vote sways.
Thing is with ashleigh her fans are very passionate & determined. It has grew massively compared to most house mates whose popularity whether bad or good has stayed very similar since the start.
Issue is if she is up against Christopher say in the final 2 she has a lot of haters Ashleigh or people not fussed about her either way. They will send vote to Christopher. Christopher is universally liked really so i cant see her winning tbh
I do think Christopher has won it. Nice guy but he has done the least in there. We see very little of him but with fakes like mark or helen & gang maybe not so bad.
Good for you. The problem is a lot of people only like a housemate because they don't like another. In turn that develops a mentality of so and so fans don't like so and so & they are just saying that because he said that blah blah blah....
The comment you have just replied to is a prime example. So again, fair play to you for liking a housemate without an ulterior motive.
Do me a favour Big Momma - read through this thread - all of it.
Don't be ridiculous patsy. That would involve actually listening to what other people say, allowing them their opinions and responding in a sensible manner. ;-)
Well I read the first reply that basically excuses her behaviour - because she is 18. This is also done in a rather sexist manner, inferring its not the same as when an older man does the same thing. I thought she was an adult? No? Then the member tells us she has anger issues. Next, its curly up looking pretty on the sofa with a cuddly toy blah blah blah... All very interesting so far I'm sure you'll agree. Then they go on to say how she might grow up one day which is not a reason for liking anyone as far as I'm concerned.
Then we have someone who says they don't particularly like Ashleigh but they hate Helen more. Hmm....
Swiftly follow by this cracker: "Yes and some people on this forum really need to realize some people don't only vote on a like or dislike of certain housemates they vote on the bigger picture. Bigger picture being for some Helens head will get even bigger still if Ashleigh goes. And some people are fed up with bb being the Helen show since day one also about her final pass too". I think I might be seeing a pattern emerging here.
To be honest with you I gave up after the post: "The girl has morals. She would never get into a swimming pool with a member of the opposite sex and will gladly call out any debauched hussy that does".
That's funny, I'm sure she was in the pool with Winston. Ill no doubt safely assume that the rest is as contradictory and as biased as that. It is essentially written by members who have a penchant of hating on Helen.
So excuse me for noting taking your direction & reading "all of it". Ill assume that's necessary to pick out one or two juicy titbits in 10 pages that you will no doubt try to back up your argument with & claim how all Ashleigh fans think the same, when quite clearly they do not.
Well I read the first reply that basically excuses her behaviour - because she is 18. This is also done in a rather sexist manner, inferring its not the same as when an older man does the same thing. I thought she was an adult? No? Then the member tells us she has anger issues. Next, its curly up looking pretty on the sofa with a cuddly toy blah blah blah... All very interesting so far I'm sure you'll agree. Then they go on to say how she might grow up one day which is not a reason for liking anyone as far as I'm concerned.
Then we have someone who says they don't particularly like Ashleigh but they hate Helen more. Hmm....
Swiftly follow by this cracker: "Yes and some people on this forum really need to realize some people don't only vote on a like or dislike of certain housemates they vote on the bigger picture. Bigger picture being for some Helens head will get even bigger still if Ashleigh goes. And some people are fed up with bb being the Helen show since day one also about her final pass too". I think I might be seeing a pattern emerging here.
To be honest with you I gave up after the post: "The girl has morals. She would never get into a swimming pool with a member of the opposite sex and will gladly call out any debauched hussy that does".
That's funny, I'm sure she was in the pool with Winston. Ill no doubt safely assume that the rest is as contradictory and as biased as that. It is essentially written by members who have a penchant of hating on Helen.
So excuse me for noting taking your direction & reading "all of it". Ill assume that's necessary to pick out one or two juicy titbits in 10 pages that you will no doubt try to back up your argument with & claim how all Ashleigh fans think the same, when quite clearly they do not.
Thanks anyway.
This is the point some of us have been trying to make which you have now just admitted. You have pretty much been saying that anyone who likes Ashleigh only likes her because she hates Helen. Now you're saying not all Ashleigh fans think the same. Which is it?
This is the point some of us have been trying to make which you have now just admitted. You have pretty much been saying that anyone who likes Ashleigh only likes her because she hates Helen. Now you're saying not all Ashleigh fans think the same. Which is it?
This is the point some of us have been trying to make which you have now just admitted. You have pretty much been saying that anyone who likes Ashleigh only likes her because she hates Helen. Now you're saying not all Ashleigh fans think the same. Which is it?
What's the difference between "pretty much" saying something & actually saying it? Just out of curiosity of course. In this case it seems as if 2+2=5.
Just relax, enjoy using the forum & recognise that you will come across people with different opinions - some of which you won't agree with
Well I read the first reply that basically excuses her behaviour - because she is 18. This is also done in a rather sexist manner, inferring its not the same as when an older man does the same thing. I thought she was an adult? No? Then the member tells us she has anger issues. Next, its curly up looking pretty on the sofa with a cuddly toy blah blah blah... All very interesting so far I'm sure you'll agree. Then they go on to say how she might grow up one day which is not a reason for liking anyone as far as I'm concerned.
Then we have someone who says they don't particularly like Ashleigh but they hate Helen more. Hmm....
Swiftly follow by this cracker: "Yes and some people on this forum really need to realize some people don't only vote on a like or dislike of certain housemates they vote on the bigger picture. Bigger picture being for some Helens head will get even bigger still if Ashleigh goes. And some people are fed up with bb being the Helen show since day one also about her final pass too". I think I might be seeing a pattern emerging here.
To be honest with you I gave up after the post: "The girl has morals. She would never get into a swimming pool with a member of the opposite sex and will gladly call out any debauched hussy that does".
That's funny, I'm sure she was in the pool with Winston. Ill no doubt safely assume that the rest is as contradictory and as biased as that. It is essentially written by members who have a penchant of hating on Helen.
So excuse me for noting taking your direction & reading "all of it". Ill assume that's necessary to pick out one or two juicy titbits in 10 pages that you will no doubt try to back up your argument with & claim how all Ashleigh fans think the same, when quite clearly they do not.
Thanks anyway.
I've no notion of it. It's case closed as far as I'm concerned. For weeks you've been whining on about people ONLY liking Ashleigh because they hate Helen. I, rather helpfully, linked a thread 10 pages long of discussion about why people like Ashleigh. By your own admission, you're not interested. So stop asking the question and stop saying that it's ONLY because people hate Helen - because it patently is not.
I personally can't stand Ashleigh, just happen to dislike Helen more.
No problem with that. I'm just pointing out that people who like Ashleigh do so because they hate Helen. She's nothing more than a vehicle for those people who will spend spend spend to keep her in - just to annoy Helen.
Thats the part that baffles me and why I say Ashleigh would win for all the wrong reasons. Not because of the person that she is.
No problem with that. I'm just pointing out that people who like Ashleigh do so because they hate Helen. She's nothing more than a vehicle for those people who will spend spend spend to keep her in - just to annoy Helen.
Thats the part that baffles me and why I say Ashleigh would win for all the wrong reasons. Not because of the person that she is.
I'd say your application to be the spokesperson for Ashleigh fans has been a massive failure . ;-)
So because I have an option which i always back up with evidence, I'm a troll because you don't agree with it? Fantastic logic.
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Evidence? What evidence? A forum full of members telling you that your assumptions are actually inaccurate cos they are the ones that actually know their own minds and what they're thinking??
Well I read the first reply that basically excuses her behaviour - because she is 18. This is also done in a rather sexist manner, inferring its not the same as when an older man does the same thing. I thought she was an adult? No? Then the member tells us she has anger issues. Next, its curly up looking pretty on the sofa with a cuddly toy blah blah blah... All very interesting so far I'm sure you'll agree. Then they go on to say how she might grow up one day which is not a reason for liking anyone as far as I'm concerned.
Then we have someone who says they don't particularly like Ashleigh but they hate Helen more. Hmm....
Swiftly follow by this cracker: "Yes and some people on this forum really need to realize some people don't only vote on a like or dislike of certain housemates they vote on the bigger picture. Bigger picture being for some Helens head will get even bigger still if Ashleigh goes. And some people are fed up with bb being the Helen show since day one also about her final pass too". I think I might be seeing a pattern emerging here.
To be honest with you I gave up after the post: "The girl has morals. She would never get into a swimming pool with a member of the opposite sex and will gladly call out any debauched hussy that does".
That's funny, I'm sure she was in the pool with Winston. Ill no doubt safely assume that the rest is as contradictory and as biased as that. It is essentially written by members who have a penchant of hating on Helen.
So excuse me for noting taking your direction & reading "all of it". Ill assume that's necessary to pick out one or two juicy titbits in 10 pages that you will no doubt try to back up your argument with & claim how all Ashleigh fans think the same, when quite clearly they do not.
Thanks anyway.
And another thing, BIGMOMMA; having reviewed the thread and your review of the thread, what you did was you looked at the first page (only) you picked posts from those who admitted they DON'T like Ashleigh and skipped those from posters who said they do. I don't think I've ever seen a more dismal fail on DS.
And another thing, BIGMOMMA; having reviewed the thread and your review of the thread, what you did was you looked at the first page (only) you picked posts from those who admitted they DON'T like Ashleigh and skipped those from posters who said they do. I don't think I've ever seen a more dismal fail on DS.
Ahh but that there is why you like Ashleigh then! You're forbidden to like her for any other reason. The statistics and evidence don't lie ;-);-);-)
Yup in a nutshell. Momma's statistical analysis shows that it's impossible to like Ashleigh for any other reason. All youre reasoning will be shot down or deleted from the thread.
What a joke! Who are you to say people like Ashleigh just because she hates Helen i like her for many other reasons, she has her own mind and i dont find her as deperate or fake as the others.. Her not liking Helen is just a bonus
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I'm glad you have the patience hunkydory.
Just wondering if you are a fan of Steven as you seem to never actually listen to what anyone else says unless they agree with you!
Depends who is in the final how the vote sways.
Thing is with ashleigh her fans are very passionate & determined. It has grew massively compared to most house mates whose popularity whether bad or good has stayed very similar since the start.
Issue is if she is up against Christopher say in the final 2 she has a lot of haters Ashleigh or people not fussed about her either way. They will send vote to Christopher. Christopher is universally liked really so i cant see her winning tbh
I do think Christopher has won it. Nice guy but he has done the least in there. We see very little of him but with fakes like mark or helen & gang maybe not so bad.
Do me a favour Big Momma - read through this thread - all of it.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1983074&highlight=
Don't be ridiculous patsy. That would involve actually listening to what other people say, allowing them their opinions and responding in a sensible manner. ;-)
Well I read the first reply that basically excuses her behaviour - because she is 18. This is also done in a rather sexist manner, inferring its not the same as when an older man does the same thing. I thought she was an adult? No? Then the member tells us she has anger issues. Next, its curly up looking pretty on the sofa with a cuddly toy blah blah blah... All very interesting so far I'm sure you'll agree. Then they go on to say how she might grow up one day which is not a reason for liking anyone as far as I'm concerned.
Then we have someone who says they don't particularly like Ashleigh but they hate Helen more. Hmm....
Swiftly follow by this cracker: "Yes and some people on this forum really need to realize some people don't only vote on a like or dislike of certain housemates they vote on the bigger picture. Bigger picture being for some Helens head will get even bigger still if Ashleigh goes. And some people are fed up with bb being the Helen show since day one also about her final pass too". I think I might be seeing a pattern emerging here.
To be honest with you I gave up after the post: "The girl has morals. She would never get into a swimming pool with a member of the opposite sex and will gladly call out any debauched hussy that does".
That's funny, I'm sure she was in the pool with Winston. Ill no doubt safely assume that the rest is as contradictory and as biased as that. It is essentially written by members who have a penchant of hating on Helen.
So excuse me for noting taking your direction & reading "all of it". Ill assume that's necessary to pick out one or two juicy titbits in 10 pages that you will no doubt try to back up your argument with & claim how all Ashleigh fans think the same, when quite clearly they do not.
Thanks anyway.
This is the point some of us have been trying to make which you have now just admitted. You have pretty much been saying that anyone who likes Ashleigh only likes her because she hates Helen. Now you're saying not all Ashleigh fans think the same. Which is it?
What did I say about debating skils?
I think you might have had a point
What's the difference between "pretty much" saying something & actually saying it? Just out of curiosity of course. In this case it seems as if 2+2=5.
Just relax, enjoy using the forum & recognise that you will come across people with different opinions - some of which you won't agree with
Strange I know, but true nontheless
I've no notion of it. It's case closed as far as I'm concerned. For weeks you've been whining on about people ONLY liking Ashleigh because they hate Helen. I, rather helpfully, linked a thread 10 pages long of discussion about why people like Ashleigh. By your own admission, you're not interested. So stop asking the question and stop saying that it's ONLY because people hate Helen - because it patently is not.
No problem with that. I'm just pointing out that people who like Ashleigh do so because they hate Helen. She's nothing more than a vehicle for those people who will spend spend spend to keep her in - just to annoy Helen.
Thats the part that baffles me and why I say Ashleigh would win for all the wrong reasons. Not because of the person that she is.
I'd say your application to be the spokesperson for Ashleigh fans has been a massive failure . ;-)
Evidence? What evidence? A forum full of members telling you that your assumptions are actually inaccurate cos they are the ones that actually know their own minds and what they're thinking??
Now that is what I call fantastic logic
Oh well, I'll still sleep very well tonight thank you.
I agree, it's all very open at the moment
And another thing, BIGMOMMA; having reviewed the thread and your review of the thread, what you did was you looked at the first page (only) you picked posts from those who admitted they DON'T like Ashleigh and skipped those from posters who said they do. I don't think I've ever seen a more dismal fail on DS.
And dont forget many deleted posts Patsy
(and no, not because of Helen at all... I actually don't care about Helen.)
Ahh but that there is why you like Ashleigh then!
Prepare to be accused of lying.
Yup in a nutshell. Momma's statistical analysis shows that it's impossible to like Ashleigh for any other reason. All youre reasoning will be shot down or deleted from the thread.