think it's about time they quit glorifying a bunch of people who believe spending a fortune to marry off your 16 year old to a jail bird is acceptable.
think it's about time they quit glorifying a bunch of people who believe spending a fortune to marry off your 16 year old to a jail bird is acceptable.
Just because they have a different culture to you doesn't make it unacceptable.
If you can't laugh at girls with orange faces and make-up applied at clown school, then you obviously have no sense of humour. Their lives are like a continuous bad taste party.
If you can't laugh at girls with orange faces and make-up applied at clown school, then you obviously have no sense of humour. Their lives are like a continuous bad taste party.
That's a different point. I find the show hilarious, but I don't find it 'unacceptable'.
Just because they have a different culture to you doesn't make it unacceptable.
These girls cannot read or write, and as we saw in Thelma's programme have massive difficulty reading a simple clock.
The life expectancy for a Traveller woman is 12 years less than a non-Traveller woman. Infant mortality is 3.6 times higher than in the non-traveller community.
If you substituted the word "Saudi" for "Traveller" we'd all be calling it a human rights issue. But because these girls are orange and gobby, it's somehow acceptable?
Just because they have a different culture to you doesn't make it unacceptable.
Have you seen them pop up in the tabloids? People get all misty-eyed about how 'they marry young but they marry for life' - but at least three of the couples who married on BFG got divorced or are in the process! The wives ran for it when they realised they had shacked up with thugs. (And thank god their culture is changing to make this acceptable.)
Like some FMs here, I was also surprised about Thelma Madine's non-appearance on C4's latest 'MBFGV'. I wonder if it has something to do with the last series of 'Thelma's Gypsy Girls' i.e. possible fallout between Thelma & the Traveller community.
These girls cannot read or write, and as we saw in Thelma's programme have massive difficulty reading a simple clock.
The life expectancy for a Traveller woman is 12 years less than a non-Traveller woman. Infant mortality is 3.6 times higher than in the non-traveller community.
If you substituted the word "Saudi" for "Traveller" we'd all be calling it a human rights issue. But because these girls are orange and gobby, it's somehow acceptable?
Is it a human rights issue if they are not forced and there is no deliberate state discrimination? They do it to themselves. It is appauling that in this day and age there are British citizens who can't read the time, read or write, but how can that be changed without trampling over their rights by forcing them to follow a settled lifestyle?
It was interesting Danielle's fiance felt the travellers way of life appeared to be coming to an end, the travellers where I live are saying the same thing and would like more permanent camps.
I found the article you linked Flanno very interesting, I would like to see things change for the girls.
Danielle's younger sister did seem to have a different attitude, even though she was only 8!
I have to say I do LOL at the notion of 'culture' - where's the traveller culture in being obsessed wi Disney, velour tracksuits, and fake tan? Their great grandparents would be turning in their graves. The old culture was about living on the land, respecting Catholicism, and surviving outside of English / British bureaucracy and being financially free.
Is it a human rights issue if they are not forced and there is no deliberate state discrimination? They do it to themselves. It is appauling that in this day and age there are British citizens who can't read the time, read or write, but how can that be changed without trampling over their rights by forcing them to follow a settled lifestyle?
I believe it is a human rights issue and I believe the treatment of women in Islam and other oppressive religions or cultures is also a human rights issue - for example being left homeless and disconnected if suffering a violent rape happens in both these cultures, considered 'soiled' and unfit for a proper life, nay even punished for being the victim of a rape. That, to me, in my opinion is a human rights issue whether it happens here in London to an Irish lass or in Saudi Arabia to an muslim woman. Never mind such things as being deprived of education, independent finance, basic health services, and disallowed from leaving the house alone.
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Perhaps they`ve done her in and buried her somewhere :eek:
Just because they have a different culture to you doesn't make it unacceptable.
Oh yes it does!
Only if you're a bigot.
That's a different point. I find the show hilarious, but I don't find it 'unacceptable'.
In some beefburgers?
These girls cannot read or write, and as we saw in Thelma's programme have massive difficulty reading a simple clock.
The life expectancy for a Traveller woman is 12 years less than a non-Traveller woman. Infant mortality is 3.6 times higher than in the non-traveller community.
If you substituted the word "Saudi" for "Traveller" we'd all be calling it a human rights issue. But because these girls are orange and gobby, it's somehow acceptable?
Have you seen them pop up in the tabloids? People get all misty-eyed about how 'they marry young but they marry for life' - but at least three of the couples who married on BFG got divorced or are in the process! The wives ran for it when they realised they had shacked up with thugs. (And thank god their culture is changing to make this acceptable.)
Read this: http://flowersandfeminism.wordpress.com/tag/thelma-madine/
Is it a human rights issue if they are not forced and there is no deliberate state discrimination? They do it to themselves. It is appauling that in this day and age there are British citizens who can't read the time, read or write, but how can that be changed without trampling over their rights by forcing them to follow a settled lifestyle?
I found the article you linked Flanno very interesting, I would like to see things change for the girls.
Danielle's younger sister did seem to have a different attitude, even though she was only 8!
Lol culture..
I have to say I do LOL at the notion of 'culture' - where's the traveller culture in being obsessed wi Disney, velour tracksuits, and fake tan? Their great grandparents would be turning in their graves. The old culture was about living on the land, respecting Catholicism, and surviving outside of English / British bureaucracy and being financially free.
I believe it is a human rights issue and I believe the treatment of women in Islam and other oppressive religions or cultures is also a human rights issue - for example being left homeless and disconnected if suffering a violent rape happens in both these cultures, considered 'soiled' and unfit for a proper life, nay even punished for being the victim of a rape. That, to me, in my opinion is a human rights issue whether it happens here in London to an Irish lass or in Saudi Arabia to an muslim woman. Never mind such things as being deprived of education, independent finance, basic health services, and disallowed from leaving the house alone.
Why LOL?