If USA refuse to extradite Amanda Knox to Italy then Italy should just refuse any extradition requests from the USA.
Italy is a European democracy, the USA should respect its extradition requests, this isn't an extradition request from some Middle Eastern state, this is Italy.
It is about USA having respect for Italy and Italy having respect for USA.
I couldn't believe she was let out in the first place. Shame they messed up the whole thing. I'd be interested to see her excuses for some of the bizarre behaviours; buying the cleaning products, etc etc. But won't for a second believe a word of it.
I was surprised too. A friend of mine lives in Italy and she told me that the Italians are convinced she is guilty.
I was surprised too. A friend of mine lives in Italy and she told me that the Italians are convinced she is guilty.
To be honest, I never really followed this case, but don't understand why the USA is being so awkward over the matter. Aren't they supposed to be big on justice being served and such like?
The American media and particularly the xenophobic American right will whip a fury over this.
I remember reading the huffingtonpost which is supposed to be a liberal american site and some of the comments on there were pretty extreme. Demanding boycotts against Italy, military action etc.
Then there was this big outrage against parents sending their kids to "foreign" schools in the first place. Saying anywhere outside America is an evil place, don't trust the world, "why send kids abroad for". It brought out the worst in some of the American stereotypes honestly.
Anyway I don't know why Italy are pursuing this, unless they want to damage their relationship with the US.
The Huffington Post is liberal, and their reaction was reasonable, in that Knox was portrayed unfairly in the Italian press as a ****, for admitting to being sexually active and not just with a fiancé. Something that, had she been a male, would not have been a problem. From there it seemed possible she could have done anything, like be in a room with none of her DNA in it.
AK fled Italy knowing procedurally the appeal could be overturned. All the Americans will do is put their wagons in a circle knowing full well they are denying closure to the Kercher family. AK also has a book coming soon to profiteer from the crime.
If the extradion fails it just shows how two faced the Americans are as regards justice. If she is innocent she should voluntarily turn up.
The circus that is the Italian justice system continues. Anyone who's read The Monster of Florence by Douglas Preston and Mario Spezi will know how much of a witch hunt their joke trials can become. Even the authors were accused by prosecutors of being the killer because they criticised the way the case was handled.
And, of course, the prosecutor in both cases has been Giuliano Mignini. He's obsessed with sex games, sex crimes, cults and masonic rites. That said, so is the Italian press, which is the whole reason these things draw on for years in the first place.
I'm not saying Knox is definitely innocent - I don't know that for sure. But I do know that the prosecutors won't let her go. They've chosen their suspect and crafted their motive, and they'll do their damnedest to shape the evidence to fit them.
The circus that is the Italian justice system continues. Anyone who's read The Monster of Florence by Douglas Preston and Mario Spezi will know how much of a witch hunt their joke trials can become. Even the authors were accused by prosecutors of being the killer because they criticised the way the case was handled.
And, of course, the prosecutor in both cases has been Giuliano Mignini. He's obsessed with sex games, sex crimes, cults and masonic rites. That said, so is the Italian press, which is the whole reason these things draw on for years in the first place.
I'm not saying Knox is definitely innocent - I don't know that for sure. But I do know that the prosecutors won't let her go. They've chosen their suspect and crafted their motive, and they'll do their damnedest to shape the evidence to fit them.
The prosecutors have themselves to blame for concocting a scenario that did not fit the evidence. If they had a scenario that fit the evidence, I would think Amanda should go back as well.
To be honest, I never really followed this case, but don't understand why the USA is being so awkward over the matter. Aren't they supposed to be big on justice being served and such like?
I can't tell if you were joking or not. Do you truly believe that?
I suppose a guilty verdict at retrial would at least allow Meredith's parents to sue Knox for any profits she makes from her book.
America won't extradite her because of their double jeapordy rule. Really, if the italian police and courts had done a better job first time around they wouldn't have a situation where a possible murderer is living free in another country.
Technically, there is nothing to stop the Kercher family from filing a civil suit against her and the boyfriend on same charges.
The Americans, if they run to form will start nibbling at the integrity of the Kercher family and their right to seek justice and at the same time allow AK to profit from the crime with her new book.
We will see yankee duality at its best.
I'm still firmly of the opinion that she got away with murder.
Too many strange things, also what was her explanation for falsely accusing Patrick Lumumba (sp)?
I feel for Meredith's family in all of this, over 5 years on they still haven't had full justice for her.
The American media and particularly the xenophobic American right will whip a fury over this.
I remember reading the huffingtonpost which is supposed to be a liberal american site and some of the comments on there were pretty extreme. Demanding boycotts against Italy, military action etc.
Then there was this big outrage against parents sending their kids to "foreign" schools in the first place. Saying anywhere outside America is an evil place, don't trust the world, "why send kids abroad for". It brought out the worst in some of the American stereotypes honestly.
Anyway I don't know why Italy are pursuing this, unless they want to damage their relationship with the US.
Just read an article reporting on this in the New York Times, which is also classed as a liberal paper. The comments from their readers is pretty extreme too, most of them calling the Italy and its judicial system corrupt, vengeful, medieval etc. It's so strange reading American media and American views on this issue, very nationalisitic and no doubt whatsoever that Knox is innocent and a victim.
I think it's unlikely that Knox will go back to Italy for a retrial willingly (lots of book promotion and all that) and sadly I don't think it will answer any of more questions for Meredith's family.
I followed at this case. And was looking forward to reading her book when it did come out.
Personally I don't think either of them did it. Maybe at the wrong place at the wrong time.
I can't understand why after being aquitted. They need to re trial them again. Imagine how they must feel thinking that it was all over and still after all this time it is still hanging over their heads.
I can understand meridiths family wanting justice but they have people in prison now for this crime which had enough dna at the scene of the crime to say he did it. I found out today as well there are others in prisoned as well for this
So again I will follow the case and hope that they both get aquitted again and for good so they can get on with their lives.
Just read an article reporting on this in the New York Times, which is also classed as a liberal paper. The comments from their readers is pretty extreme too, most of them calling the Italy and its judicial system corrupt, vengeful, medieval etc. It's so strange reading American media and American views on this issue, very nationalisitic and no doubt whatsoever that Knox is innocent and a victim.
I think it's unlikely that Knox will go back to Italy for a retrial willingly (lots of book promotion and all that) and sadly I don't think it will answer any of more questions for Meredith's family.
It's clear that the Kercher family had their questions "answered" at the original trial. Assuming Knox doesn't return to Italy, that leaves Sollecito, without the smokescreen of the Knox publicity machine. There must be a remote chance that he'll actually tell the truth (something of a stranger to this case), cut a deal with the prosecution for a reduced sentence, and at least give the Kerchers some form of closure, if not justice.
I suppose a guilty verdict at retrial would at least allow Meredith's parents to sue Knox for any profits she makes from her book.
America won't extradite her because of their double jeapordy rule. Really, if the italian police and courts had done a better job first time around they wouldn't have a situation where a possible murderer is living free in another country.
Am surprised her co-accused has stayed in Italy though.
A good rule, which Britain at least used to have as well.
The Americans do have a very one-sided view of extraditions. They expect every other country to hand over their citizens but they never do so themselves.
The Americans do have a very one-sided view of extraditions. They expect every other country to hand over their citizens but they never do so themselves.
Never? I can't speak to the U.S.-Italy extradition treaty, but as far as the U.S.-UK treaty goes:
The Home Office received 95 extradition requests from the US between 1 January 2004 and 31 July 2009; 47 of these have taken place, with 36 ongoing and five withdrawn by the US and seven refused by UK authorities. The UK has made 42 extradition requests to the US in the same period; 27 of these have taken place, with 12 ongoing, three withdrawn by the UK and none refused.
I'm still firmly of the opinion that she got away with murder.
When you read all the details of the case, including the interviews, it's very hard not to conclude that she and Sollecito were covering up and that even if they themselves didn't committ the murder, they certainly had some sort of involvement.
I think it's important to note that Amanda Knox was found guilty of defaming Patrick Lumumba. In other words - she will be a convicted felon for life. So for her to go round making money off the back of this and the murder itself is frankly surreal. Deep down, she will know that the US won't extradite her (even if found guilty), thus she will become a millionaire at the end of it. Funny how the world works.
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Italy is a European democracy, the USA should respect its extradition requests, this isn't an extradition request from some Middle Eastern state, this is Italy.
It is about USA having respect for Italy and Italy having respect for USA.
I was surprised too. A friend of mine lives in Italy and she told me that the Italians are convinced she is guilty.
To be honest, I never really followed this case, but don't understand why the USA is being so awkward over the matter. Aren't they supposed to be big on justice being served and such like?
The Huffington Post is liberal, and their reaction was reasonable, in that Knox was portrayed unfairly in the Italian press as a ****, for admitting to being sexually active and not just with a fiancé. Something that, had she been a male, would not have been a problem. From there it seemed possible she could have done anything, like be in a room with none of her DNA in it.
If the extradion fails it just shows how two faced the Americans are as regards justice. If she is innocent she should voluntarily turn up.
And, of course, the prosecutor in both cases has been Giuliano Mignini. He's obsessed with sex games, sex crimes, cults and masonic rites. That said, so is the Italian press, which is the whole reason these things draw on for years in the first place.
I'm not saying Knox is definitely innocent - I don't know that for sure. But I do know that the prosecutors won't let her go. They've chosen their suspect and crafted their motive, and they'll do their damnedest to shape the evidence to fit them.
The prosecutors have themselves to blame for concocting a scenario that did not fit the evidence. If they had a scenario that fit the evidence, I would think Amanda should go back as well.
I can't tell if you were joking or not. Do you truly believe that?
Technically, there is nothing to stop the Kercher family from filing a civil suit against her and the boyfriend on same charges.
We will see yankee duality at its best.
Too many strange things, also what was her explanation for falsely accusing Patrick Lumumba (sp)?
I feel for Meredith's family in all of this, over 5 years on they still haven't had full justice for her.
*cartwheels*
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee
Just read an article reporting on this in the New York Times, which is also classed as a liberal paper. The comments from their readers is pretty extreme too, most of them calling the Italy and its judicial system corrupt, vengeful, medieval etc. It's so strange reading American media and American views on this issue, very nationalisitic and no doubt whatsoever that Knox is innocent and a victim.
I think it's unlikely that Knox will go back to Italy for a retrial willingly (lots of book promotion and all that) and sadly I don't think it will answer any of more questions for Meredith's family.
Personally I don't think either of them did it. Maybe at the wrong place at the wrong time.
I can't understand why after being aquitted. They need to re trial them again. Imagine how they must feel thinking that it was all over and still after all this time it is still hanging over their heads.
I can understand meridiths family wanting justice but they have people in prison now for this crime which had enough dna at the scene of the crime to say he did it. I found out today as well there are others in prisoned as well for this
So again I will follow the case and hope that they both get aquitted again and for good so they can get on with their lives.
Only Rudy Guede has been imprisoned for this.
It's clear that the Kercher family had their questions "answered" at the original trial. Assuming Knox doesn't return to Italy, that leaves Sollecito, without the smokescreen of the Knox publicity machine. There must be a remote chance that he'll actually tell the truth (something of a stranger to this case), cut a deal with the prosecution for a reduced sentence, and at least give the Kerchers some form of closure, if not justice.
A good rule, which Britain at least used to have as well.
However her Ex Boyfriend could be arrested.
Never? I can't speak to the U.S.-Italy extradition treaty, but as far as the U.S.-UK treaty goes:
The Home Office received 95 extradition requests from the US between 1 January 2004 and 31 July 2009; 47 of these have taken place, with 36 ongoing and five withdrawn by the US and seven refused by UK authorities. The UK has made 42 extradition requests to the US in the same period; 27 of these have taken place, with 12 ongoing, three withdrawn by the UK and none refused.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:GcRGlCvUx2kJ:www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn06105.pdf+sir+scott+baker+the+U.S.+has+not+turned+down+an+extradition+request+from+the+UK&hl=en&gl=uk&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjViJaBvoVQlnKJhifCUbiKQKyMdLxM1nj-d6b7LLmNcWrNVrCEtjmvI53KfuIES5Q7dgmTbx1NS0swSQ-WzqoCfNwwg9GrwNIa4hyTyJ8X6fyrGVEzhM6ifdM7MMhSlrCHXNte&sig=AHIEtbSEZgpmqv4t_eEJwV7RHubqOjCSfA
Knox signed a book deal for $4 Million and she's about to go on a promo in Seattle. Seems the chapter hasn't closed.
When you read all the details of the case, including the interviews, it's very hard not to conclude that she and Sollecito were covering up and that even if they themselves didn't committ the murder, they certainly had some sort of involvement.