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Multiculturalism: we have to talk
Okay so let's be reeeally civil here! This is too important to ignore, so let's talk about it.
Clearly, it's not working. Not in my country, not in yours.
The only people who are not sure about this just happen to live in smaller places where no separate cultural enclaves exist, so they don't get it because they're not feeling the pinch.
So, with them in mind, let's start with a fun quiz: name one country on the planet where "multiculturalism" works.
Clearly, it's not working. Not in my country, not in yours.
The only people who are not sure about this just happen to live in smaller places where no separate cultural enclaves exist, so they don't get it because they're not feeling the pinch.
So, with them in mind, let's start with a fun quiz: name one country on the planet where "multiculturalism" works.
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And immigrant's and also not Integrate with british people,
Brazil.
The UK
New Zealand.
Spain.
That exists. Is anyone disagreeing?
Unfortunately it seems fewer are willing to admit that any immigrants integrate at all. Even when we all know there are many who do.
I consider that rather dodgy.
"The UK" is very different from "Fort William".
You have reinforced the OP's point in 3 syllables.
The USA is not a melting pot. It's a succession of ghettos.
Segregation may not be legalised, but it sure is socialised. People like to live with their own creed and culture. Nothing wrong with that - it's perfectly natural.
I suppose living in London from 1984-2010 doesn't give me any perspective on the issue though, does it? Maybe everything has changed in only 4 years.
Ok, i'm being flippant but it's a serious point. Multiculturalism is a fact in many countries and I don't see how, without resulting to Nazi style policies, you can change it. The challenge for the modern world is to make it work . . . . .
Hull?
You are right. We are where we are and have no option but to deal with it.
Doesn't mean we cannot criticise the policies that have led to it, nor bemoan the absurd pussyfooting that goes on in this country that have, for example, allowed the grotesque practice of FGM to flourish.
We should also have the right to say the doors should be firmly closed from now on, if that is what we believe.
Where have I suggested that?
I am suggesting that where one lives undoubtedly influences one's opinion. When somebody says "I live in the UK", that covers a very wide geographical and demographic terrain. Perhaps they could be more specific.
They may be White British, live in East Ham, and love it. That's their prerogative. It's also mine not to.
Name me one country where mono-culturalism works? why is it so great to all live in little boxes and all look just the same? do all white british people have the same culture? when did inter generational cohesion become the norm?
Of course there are cultures that are illegal or not benefitial, those involving gangs, guns and drugs for instance and things like binge drinking though not necessarily illegal do not create cohesion or a feeling of being safe on the street but these are hardly confined to any grouping.
Those who are most opposed to multi culturalism and generally not very good at integrating with people who are different with them.
That would be most people, then.
Which is why we have the ghettos we do.
Then again, Brighton & Hove are pretty white British, are they not?
I live in Slough btw, which must surely be one of the most multicultural towns in the UK and for some reason it has a bad rep with local English people, but in all honesty I like the place and the only people who bother me are the local English born chavs who represent all worst stereotypes of the welfare system gone wrong.
one thing that would help the immigrants mix is if they spoke english more,
I was surprised to find the "white" percentage was as high as 94.53%
http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/sites/brighton-hove.gov.uk/files/downloads/citystats/6_Ethnicity_Religion.pdf
Yes, many do live in ghettos, often called families and a number rarely mix socially with people whio are not of a similar class, age or in many cases gender or religion or who support a different football team
I agree. Over the years we have been invaded by people of various different cultures and people of different cultures have chosen to come here and have been absorbed over time.
In my own family tree I have mid-Europeans who went to live in Scotland in the 1600s and a persecuted French Huguenot who took refuge in Essex.
I addition we have absorbed Celts, Romans Germanic people, Vikings and of course the French.
Many in my family have also emigrated to various far flung parts of the world and have become Americans, Australians, New Zealanders and Canadians.